Worst tech tree cruisers t8,9,10

[The_Chiv]

So lately I have been getting bored. I have no desire to play Italian BBS and find the GERMAN Heavy dd line a joke not worth playing. 

 

So rather then take a break I thought you know maybe lets play some of the worst ships and see if we can make them work. So if you would be so kind and share your thoughts on some of the worst cruisers from the tech tree for t8,9,10.

[inkedsoulz]

Mogami

Ibuki

Zao

[lafeel]

9 minutes ago, inkedsoulz said:

Mogami

Ibuki

Zao

Shirley, you jest. Mogami is very good despite her advanced age (the oldest tier 8 cruiser in the game don't forget)

[The_Chiv]

1 minute ago, lafeel said:

Shirley, you jest. Mogami is very good despite her advanced age (the oldest tier 8 cruiser in the game don't forget)

I agree with Zao as being trash, Ibuki is similar to the atago just with worse torp angles but even still.

[lafeel]

4 minutes ago, The_Chiv said:

I agree with Zao as being trash, Ibuki is similar to the atago just with worse torp angles but even still.

 

Not played those  yet so I don't really have a opinion on them yet, but Mogami is certainly far from weak.

[Sweedish_Gunner]

I'd say the German T8 (whichever is the tech tree one). 

The Seattle for T9. 

The Zao for T10. 

[Verblonde]

What's the USA T9 CL? That would probably be my vote for the worst ship in the game (that I've played) bar none, tier for tier...

[The_Chiv]

2 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

What's the USA T9 CL? That would probably be my vote for the worst ship in the game (that I've played) bar none, tier for tier...

Seattle

[22cm]

https://wows-numbers.com/ships/

 

Check for yourself.

Most of the T9 cruisers suck. They have never been strong, but also have been severly powercrept in time by all the added T9 premiums Donskoi, Seattle, Neptune, Ibuki, Roon. Worst would probably be Neptune or Ibuki. Same for the T9 BBs, all the tier 9 are weak. 

[Kutfroat]

T8...every cruiser without a heal. T9 Seattle and Buffalo, T10 I habe to say Hindenburg. It is just useless, and if you compare it to e.g. the Petropavlosk, the ampunt of crappiness of the Hindenburg really comes to light and it's just a sad joke!

 

 

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

Buffalo. Buffalo is the worst cruiser in tier 9 and possibly all tiers. That steaming pile of ship. Its only function is to frustrate you into spending resources to skip it. Buffalo is the worst.

 

Worst tier 8? Hm... Hipper, of course. Another useless, hampering pile of scrap.

 

Worst tier 10 cruiser? I don't know.... Tier X is where things get good. Zao is a good contender, though. Post-nerf Henri, maybe too.

[Trench4nt]

Vor 6 Stunden, The_Chiv sagte:

I have no desire to play Italian BBS 

 

You should.

[Wulf_Ace]

Buffalo,Buffalo,Buffalo getting from amazing tier 8 Baltimore to this pile of crap is just wow...

He might even be good as a tier 7 or 8 ,but definitly not 9.

[totally_potato]

1 hour ago, 22cm said:

https://wows-numbers.com/ships/

 

Check for yourself.

Most of the T9 cruisers suck. They have never been strong, but also have been severly powercrept in time by all the added T9 premiums Donskoi, Seattle, Neptune, Ibuki, Roon. Worst would probably be Neprune or Ibuki. Same for the T9 BBs, all the tier 9 are weak. 

Umm no. The T9 BBs are okish, but not trash. Iowa is good, Izumo is good, FDG is good, Soyuz is good, Georgia and Missouri are good, Lion is trash, Alsace is good, Pommern is good, Marco Polo is bad, Lepanto is very underrated. 

The T9 cruisers don't suck either. The four ships you mentioned are the bad ones except for roon, which is exceptional is delaying the push. Then we have Saint Louis, Brindisi, Drake, Buffalo, Riga are all good T9s. 

And the T9 DDs are the best of their tech tree most of the time (Example Fletcher, Z-46, Chung Mu, Kitakaze, etc.).

[totally_potato]

51 minutes ago, Kutfroat said:

T8...every cruiser without a heal. T9 Seattle and Buffalo, T10 I habe to say Hindenburg. It is just useless, and if you compare it to e.g. the Petropavlosk, the ampunt of crappiness of the Hindenburg really comes to light and it's just a sad joke!

 

 

That's not true. Petro and Hinden have complete different playstyles. Petro is a front line tanky brawler with trash HE and strong AP. The other feature like good AA, radar are just bias imo, but the main two features, that is good guns at close range and strong armor are not. Petro is a very good concept with a little too much over execution, coz if it had only those guns, armor and hydro, it would be good, but not OP, as those guns can be countered by angling and armor with HE. 

And Hindenburg is an all round cruiser. Good guns with good HE and strong AP and a quick reload. Trollish armor as it bounces all the guns below 17 inches and has a turtleback which protects it from getting citadelled by anything that's not a Repub and above. I mean I just couldn't cit a Hindi at 4km with Stalin. And with German hydro, it's your second best friend especially if you are a DD, and you have it in the cap coz it just dominates to cap becoz of Turtleback, torps, hydro and AP having just enough pin to cit BBs. 

[totally_potato]

37 minutes ago, Bindolaf_Werebane said:

Buffalo. Buffalo is the worst cruiser in tier 9 and possibly all tiers. That steaming pile of ship. Its only function is to frustrate you into spending resources to skip it. Buffalo is the worst.

 

Worst tier 8? Hm... Hipper, of course. Another useless, hampering pile of scrap.

 

Worst tier 10 cruiser? I don't know.... Tier X is where things get good. Zao is a good contender, though. Post-nerf Henri, maybe too.

Why are you saying the Buffalo. When I played it last (I think it was a couple of months ago) it was pretty strong. Devstruck a couple of cruisers, burned BBs from range, killed DDs with radar, and AA was good enough to shoot down a couple of planes from Midway, even tho AA is the thing that got butchered on all AA cruisers. 

[totally_potato]

6 hours ago, The_Chiv said:

I have no desire to play Italian BBS and find the GERMAN Heavy dd line a joke not worth playing. 

 

Italian Bbs are very fun and I do quite well in them. The High tier ones like Lepanto and C.C are the best ones. I just compensate range with Luigi, so that doesn't become an issue. 

German DDs (new one) are trash at T7, T8 (OMG the Z-31 was so bad, like Hydro would have helped this ship so much, and maybe not nerfing the already atrocious reload, GJM was decent but Le fantasque and Le terrible are just better), T9 is pretty fun and chill, like you just need a bit of knowledge of the game and you are good to play Felix. Elbing could buffed quite a bit so Ig its better, although I really want the 6km hydro back and with a heal.

[The_Chiv]

49 minutes ago, Trench4nt said:

 

You should.

nope.

 

[Srle_Vigilante]

From my experience i wouldn't call any of the ships in these tiers Bad... But comparing them to others there are worst performers

Admiral Hipper

Roon

And as much as it hurts me the Zao.

I have to emphasize again none of these ships are bad in my opinion, especially the Japanese! Ill fight you all 1v1 stop talking sh*t. 

Admiral Hipper has always been a worse Eugen for me, it just doesn't have that Eugen survivability because it doesn't have repair party. 

Roon is just... idk man its ok but its not a Hindenburg. You'll get it once you make the switch.

And Zao i can't even put this thing with a straight face on this list. Its not a bad ship by any stretch. But yet it is the worst performer out if the 3 i guess?

 

If i had to guess outside my realm of expertise id go for the British heavy cruisers. 

[GarrusBrutus]

Amalfi and Brindisi just arent working for me. Smoke is a nice gamerturn cover mechanic but also kinda gimmicky. SAP mechanics seem weird and random. Sure you get to blap some pepega DD every once i a while but overall the dmg output is lackluster. 

T10 i have to say Goliath. Its gimmick is its survivabilty but other than power farming enemies with HE (which HE focused TX cruiser cant?) the Goliath brings zero to the team. 

 

I see people mention IJN CAs and US CLs. These ships have very particular roles and when played accordingly they're one of the strongest picks for their respective tier. An IJN cruiser kiting a flank can be devastating. A well placed US CL can wreak havoc among the enemy team. The thing is: They're both unforgiving. Misposition and you're most likely dead.

[Yedwy]

IMHO and under worst I mean pointless to persue and play other then if you absolutely have to...

 

Worst T8 - prob Amalfi or Hipper, former has crappy guns that make her unrewarding and boring to play and latter is just garbage overall, i mean Algiere is better CA then Hipper a tier lower FFS as she was in the real world, the fact germans had to lose all the shipbuilding industry after WWI really showes in those not even WG armor magic can do anything there...

 

Worst T9 - prob Brindisi although one might make a case for Seattle as well, the former is just a jacked up Amalfi meaning its a jacked up trash and Seattle has shells that are 2 floaty for the high tier bracket making shooting at distances hard and maps just dont have enough cover to make up for it, one can make her work ofc as any other ship but it is a chore...

 

Worst T10 - undoubtably Wooster, Zao at least has the stopper torps you can occasionally surprize one with, Wooster has the same floaty arc issue as the T9 and there is nothing she does Nevsky dosnt do better with her 1000m/s railguns that can slap a wiggling DD 18km away, not to mention Nevsky also sports torps and for up close and personal DD melting Minotaur is second to none with her hail of fire AND torps...

 

[HassenderZerhacker]

25 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

IMHO and under worst I mean pointless to persue and play other then if you absolutely have to...

 

Worst T8 - prob Amalfi or Hipper, former has crappy guns that make her unrewarding and boring to play and latter is just garbage overall, i mean Algiere is better CA then Hipper a tier lower FFS as she was in the real world, the fact germans had to lose all the shipbuilding industry after WWI really showes in those not even WG armor magic can do anything there...

 

Worst T9 - prob Brindisi although one might make a case for Seattle as well, the former is just a jacked up Amalfi meaning its a jacked up trash and Seattle has shells that are 2 floaty for the high tier bracket making shooting at distances hard and maps just dont have enough cover to make up for it, one can make her work ofc as any other ship but it is a chore...

 

Worst T10 - undoubtably Wooster, Zao at least has the stopper torps you can occasionally surprize one with, Wooster has the same floaty arc issue as the T9 and there is nothing she does Nevsky dosnt do better with her 1000m/s railguns that can slap a wiggling DD 18km away, not to mention Nevsky also sports torps and for up close and personal DD melting Minotaur is second to none with her hail of fire AND torps...

 

Hipper is a WW2 ship, launched in April 1939

[Yedwy]

5 minutes ago, HassenderZerhacker said:

Hipper is a WW2 ship, launched in April 1939

Any yet Algiere was better then her

[DFens_666]

Tallinn

Seattle

T10 is kinda tough, i dont think there is any bad ship, but if id go with, which has the hardest time winning games, id go with either Zao, Hindi or Goliath, as they lack gimmicks to carry games. Henri and Venezia do have the same problem, as they dont carry radar either, but i think they deal better with DDs than the other 3. Henri can just speedboost DDs down, or use MBRB for extra damage when DD is spotted, and Venezia has SAP to give the DD a huge spanking.

[MimosA_A]

Why the hate for the Buffalo? It's not that bad. Not great, but definitely not terrible.

 

IMHO the Neptune is hot garbage, the Edinburgh and Mino are awesome, but this turd in between is just insufferable. It's clunky, gets spotted too easy, the longer fire range seems nice on paper, but in practice you won't hit much because of the shell arcs, so the only thing it does is get you spotted by ships further away when firing without smoke, it gets citadelled every time you take a hit, it can't stealth radar. Just a whole lot of bad and very little good.

 

I also can't get along with the Brindisi. It's pretty decent at slapping people for unexpected amounts of damage with SAP, but beyond that it's just awkward and I seem to get citadelled from the most ridiculous angles.