[NLD] Genie_of_the_Lamp Players 160 posts 37,001 battles Report post #1 Posted May 2, 2021 Hi I m in doubt between the Russian DD Neustrahimy and the T44 But the russian dd is 300K coal almost. And the T44 225 K I could not read in the subscribtion of any practical advantage this russian boat has to justify this big amount of Coal. The torp reload is bad. ... Can anyone explain? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[1-DFL] Nyyo22 Beta Tester 94 posts 10,661 battles Report post #2 Posted May 2, 2021 Because at first, Neutra was a Steel ship. So, when they released it for coal afrerward, they made it more expensive than a "normal" coal ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #3 Posted May 2, 2021 The T-44 is a tank. If you are talking about the Z-44... I have them both, and I actually like the Z-44 more, because of the longer torpedo range, faster torpedo reload and higher ship speed. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #4 Posted May 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Genie_of_the_Lamp said: Hi I m in doubt between the Russian DD Neustrahimy and the T44 But the russian dd is 300K coal almost. And the T44 225 K I could not read in the subscribtion of any practical advantage this russian boat has to justify this big amount of Coal. The torp reload is bad. ... Can anyone explain? It is a butthurt tax to sooth players that bought her for steel when she was a steel ship. 6 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-MM] _Dunc_ Weekend Tester 350 posts 11,822 battles Report post #5 Posted May 2, 2021 25 minutes ago, Genie_of_the_Lamp said: Hi I m in doubt between the Russian DD Neustrahimy and the T44 But the russian dd is 300K coal almost. And the T44 225 K I could not read in the subscribtion of any practical advantage this russian boat has to justify this big amount of Coal. The torp reload is bad. ... Can anyone explain? WG logic. Anyway, of the two, the Z-44 is the more comfortable boat to play in the current meta, thanks to the torp spam capability (plays very much like the T-61) The Neustra gets all the gimmicks, including stupid zombie heal, but its not really a torp or gunboat by modern standards, and isn't particularly enjoyable to play. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #6 Posted May 2, 2021 Neither, buy Immelman, spread some joy on the high seas of WOWS 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ROPS] HMS_Edinburgh_C16 Players 272 posts 5,823 battles Report post #7 Posted May 2, 2021 Stalin himself served on Neustrashimy, that's why 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,194 battles Report post #8 Posted May 2, 2021 For me a very good combo of a ship, amazing concealment for a hybrid DD, amazing heal, ok torps, ok guns, ok AA. Negatives are meh speed and big turning radius. I have almost 87% WR on it after 54 battles. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #9 Posted May 2, 2021 the only minus for me is that its not T10 .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #10 Posted May 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Genie_of_the_Lamp said: Can anyone explain? Most likely - as @Europizza alludes to - to reduce annoyance amongst those who bought her with steel. Mine fell out of a Satan Crate, so I'm fairly relaxed about all this stuff. That said, I find Neustra to be excellent: you can do a lot more than simple 'torp truck' stuff (which is all that Z-44 is good for, really, due to meh concealment), and the zombie heal allows you to - usually - get away with at least one muck up. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABUS] Chaoskraehe Freibeuter, WoWs Wiki Team 1,291 posts 10,716 battles Report post #11 Posted May 2, 2021 Neustrashimy is a awesome ship. Jack of all trades, master of none. She can survive situations quite easy which would sink most other ships. Her guns are very good (but only 4), good 10km Torps, excellent vision control. For me the perfect mix. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VuilbaardGames Players 66 posts 642 battles Report post #12 Posted May 2, 2021 5 hours ago, Europizza said: It is a butthurt tax to sooth players that bought her for steel when she was a steel ship. This Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ABR] Moosealoob Players 33 posts 24,758 battles Report post #13 Posted May 2, 2021 The Nuestra in the hands of a good player can stay in the fight longer than any other DD which means you can still cap, kill and help the team. She's a really great DD...love playing her and she's much better than the Z44. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cippalippus Players 563 posts 12,734 battles Report post #14 Posted May 2, 2021 It costs so much because it used to be available for steel. Simple as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spartan_Renegade Players 855 posts 7,183 battles Report post #15 Posted May 3, 2021 They didn't want to piss off people who brought it for steel, and not cause she's better than other DDs of her tier. She's neither a gunboat nor torpboat, maybe a good survivor with heal, hydro and long smoke duration but that's about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #16 Posted May 3, 2021 Vor 1 Stunde, SpartanRenegade sagte: She's neither a gunboat nor torpboat, maybe a good survivor with heal, hydro and long smoke duration but that's about it. She has no Hydro. She has DefAA, which I find not very useful because her AA DPM is poor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_ED57N4NbHHsY Players 69 posts Report post #17 Posted May 3, 2021 On 5/2/2021 at 1:00 PM, Yedwy said: Neither, buy Immelman, spread some joy on the high seas of WOWS Please don't do that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #18 Posted May 3, 2021 1 hour ago, kieodox said: Please don't do that Actually thats exactly what I will do when I have the coal ready, WG wants us to grief so we shell grief Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #19 Posted May 3, 2021 Vor 10 Minuten, Yedwy sagte: Actually thats exactly what I will do when I have the coal ready, WG wants us to grief so we shell grief If all griefers play only T10, I'm fine with that. Leave the fun tiers to us non-griefers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #20 Posted May 3, 2021 On 5/2/2021 at 2:31 PM, Genie_of_the_Lamp said: Hi I m in doubt between the Russian DD Neustrahimy and the T44 But the russian dd is 300K coal almost. And the T44 225 K I could not read in the subscribtion of any practical advantage this russian boat has to justify this big amount of Coal. The torp reload is bad. ... Can anyone explain? it is because it is so good ... so, spend all your coal and then enjoy when it is nerfed for the greater good ... because players are supposed to pay for wg fck-ups ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #21 Posted May 3, 2021 48 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said: If all griefers play only T10, I'm fine with that. Leave the fun tiers to us non-griefers. Nope I have bad news for you m8 I have Enterprise as well since the RTS times... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_ED57N4NbHHsY Players 69 posts Report post #22 Posted May 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Yedwy said: Actually thats exactly what I will do when I have the coal ready, WG wants us to grief so we shell grief Yeah, but think of your fellow humans, think of the children Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #23 Posted May 4, 2021 Z44 is just a german Fletcher, without US smoke.. Neustra on the other hand is a very unique DD.. IJN concealment, IJN torp reload and damage, Russian smoke, russian gun ballistics, 360 degree guns, British speshul heal.. She is nothing like any other DD.. you'll love it.. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #24 Posted May 4, 2021 Neustrashimy is a Ognevoi design and they are all nice, were IRL as well as in WOWS, same as their later derivatives... In game original Ogni, Neustra as well as Siliwangi are all nice DDs to play IMHO but 300k coal is just 2 much for a T9 DD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #25 Posted May 4, 2021 If I want to spam 12km torps TRB Yugumo is the best, If I want to play aggressively around caps and kill any DD in a few 1vs1s Neustra is the best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
