[TEPES] VeteranGamer84 Players 1,314 posts 52,321 battles Report post #1 Posted April 29, 2021 Why are you messing up my favorite RU ship (Stalingrad) by reducing the radar duration twice in a row?!! 4 8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #2 Posted April 29, 2021 I dont see a major nerf in this... same goes for the thunderer 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] YabbaCoe WG Staff, WG Staff, WG Staff 10,676 posts 5,441 battles Report post #3 Posted April 29, 2021 Před 2 minutami ABED1984 řekl/a: Why are you messing up my favorite RU ship (Stalingrad) by reducing the radar duration twice in a row?!! Those changes were made due to balance changes and as you can guess, Stalingrad was overperforming other ships. Radar duration will be shorter, but still it won't hurt this ship much... 8 5 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEPES] VeteranGamer84 Players 1,314 posts 52,321 battles Report post #4 Posted April 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said: Those changes were made due to balance changes and as you can guess, Stalingrad was overperforming other ships. Radar duration will be shorter, but still it won't hurt this ship much... 4 minutes ago, nambr9 said: I dont see a major nerf in this... same goes for the thunderer So what's the point of playing her when you have Petro which has better concealment? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #5 Posted April 29, 2021 It should have Petro radar imho. Yes I have Stalingrad. But giving it too many tools isn't good. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #6 Posted April 29, 2021 1 minute ago, ABED1984 said: So what's the point of playing her when you have Petro which has better concealment? Better guns I guess? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #7 Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, ABED1984 said: So what's the point of playing her when you have Petro which has better concealment? Way better accuracy at range? And even more penetration after all. Also his HE is much better than Petro ones. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #8 Posted April 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said: Those changes were made due to balance changes and as you can guess, Stalingrad was overperforming other ships. Radar duration will be shorter, but still it won't hurt this ship much... Funny thing is that WG is nerfing SG radar but still slapping radar on everything they can, like Borodino and Constellation. And those radars are long range too, at T8! This game is becoming radar fiesta, I can't wait when all 7 ships in CBs comp will have a radar, what a glorious day that will be. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #9 Posted April 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, ABED1984 said: So what's the point of playing her when you have Petro which has better concealment? Then play Petro. And you are exaggerating ... the nerf isnt a big deal. The lack of FP was a big deal for Stalingrad, but this isn't. 5 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] YabbaCoe WG Staff, WG Staff, WG Staff 10,676 posts 5,441 battles Report post #10 Posted April 29, 2021 Před 18 minutami fumtu řekl/a: Funny thing is that WG is nerfing SG radar but still slapping radar on everything they can, like Borodino and Constellation. And those radars are long range too, at T8! This game is becoming radar fiesta, I can't wait when all 7 ships in CBs comp will have a radar, what a glorious day that will be. Borodino and Constellation are both being in testing and still plenty things can change on them. 1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,647 battles Report post #11 Posted April 29, 2021 21 minutes ago, fumtu said: Funny thing is that WG is nerfing SG radar but still slapping radar on everything they can, like Borodino and Constellation. And those radars are long range too, at T8! This game is becoming radar fiesta, I can't wait when all 7 ships in CBs comp will have a radar, what a glorious day that will be. Ehm Congress ... you forgot that one .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #12 Posted April 29, 2021 21 minutes ago, fumtu said: Funny thing is that WG is nerfing SG radar but still slapping radar on everything they can, like Borodino and Constellation. And those radars are long range too, at T8! This game is becoming radar fiesta, I can't wait when all 7 ships in CBs comp will have a radar, what a glorious day that will be. Yep, radar is getting too common. RU radar is already an infestation in ranked. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEPES] VeteranGamer84 Players 1,314 posts 52,321 battles Report post #13 Posted April 29, 2021 OMG, My Stalingrad! 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ARYA] arsalan_afx Players 6 posts 17,612 battles Report post #14 Posted April 29, 2021 45 minutes ago, nambr9 said: I dont see a major nerf in this... same goes for the thunderer what the hell do you mean??? we bust our asses to get this ships because of their characteristics. if there is going to be a change in their stats, they should do it in test phase. not after every single one of us invested money or time to get them after they are released. 6 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,535 battles Report post #15 Posted April 29, 2021 Wargaming has this weird habit of nerfing/buffing the areas of ship that have nothing to do with them over- or underperforming. If Stalin is overperforming, then maaaaaaybe the guns are a bit too stronk? 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEPES] VeteranGamer84 Players 1,314 posts 52,321 battles Report post #16 Posted April 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, arsalan_afx said: what the hell do you mean??? we bust our asses to get this ships because of their characteristics. if there is going to be a change in their stats, they should do it in test phase. not after every single one of us invested money or time to get them after they are released. This is my same opinion. Wargaming knows the stats of every single ship from day one. And even the argument that WG doesn't nerf Special/Premium ships is a lie. At least don't nerf Special/Premium ships. I don't like this at all..!! 2 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said: Wargaming has this weird habit of nerfing/buffing the areas of ship that have nothing to do with them over- or underperforming. If Stalin is overperforming, then maaaaaaybe the guns are a bit too stronk? It's better not to touch those hard earned ships at all..!! I'm really pissed off!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #17 Posted April 29, 2021 99% of players won't even notice, or the one to Thunderer for that matter. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #18 Posted April 29, 2021 On 4/29/2021 at 4:08 PM, arsalan_afx said: what the hell do you mean??? we bust our asses to get this ships because of their characteristics. if there is going to be a change in their stats, they should do it in test phase. not after every single one of us invested money or time to get them after they are released. Well deserved. Stalingrad was overperforming for years now. I'm surprised its still available in the armory. We had this type of conversations before. Its WG's fault, that they release OP ships (they do this all the time) and they nerf them later. Yes I agree ... this is a very bad practise. But I still feel Stalingrad is in a good place even after the changes. That is my opinion ... you don't have to like it. I understand that you are pissed ... but WG should really start PUTTING OUT balanced ships, to avoid later nerfs. Look at CBs ... they have to BAN their own ships from competitive ... they say TOO POPULAR ... I say ... UNBALANCED. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,535 battles Report post #19 Posted April 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, ABED1984 said: It's better not to touch those hard earned ships at all..!! I'm really pissed off!! In the beginning the argument that she was OP was moot because only very good players had her, skewing the stats heavily. But now even the lowest skilled players have a Stalin in their harbor. Yet... Stalingrad still has 55% winrate in the last quarter of the year!!!!! Go check maplesyrup if you do not believe me. And btw: "Hard earned ships"? You mean just playing the game? The days where you have to reach a certain threshold in comp to gain a stalingrad are long gone. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PME] inkedsoulz Players 196 posts Report post #20 Posted April 29, 2021 1 hour ago, ABED1984 said: So what's the point of playing her when you have Petro which has better concealment? Then go play Petro with his barely 20 secs of radar at most, Stalin can still have close to 30 secs of radar duration even after the 5 secs nerf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,306 battles Report post #21 Posted April 29, 2021 1 hour ago, YabbaCoe said: Those changes were made due to balance changes and as you can guess, Stalingrad was overperforming other ships. Radar duration will be shorter, but still it won't hurt this ship much... Reeeeeallllllyyyyyy? Didnt notice that. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #22 Posted April 29, 2021 1 hour ago, YabbaCoe said: Stalingrad was overperforming other ships. After almost 3 years and getting indirectly nerfed by not having access to BoS and FP any longer? X for doubt... 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #23 Posted April 29, 2021 1 hour ago, YabbaCoe said: Those changes were made due to balance changes and as you can guess, Stalingrad was overperforming other ships. Radar duration will be shorter, but still it won't hurt this ship much... Over performing for three years in spite of several global changes that amounted to nerfs. I agree it is still over performing but why make the change now rather than when it was still broken? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #24 Posted April 29, 2021 43 minutes ago, arsalan_afx said: what the hell do you mean??? we bust our asses to get this ships because of their characteristics. if there is going to be a change in their stats, they should do it in test phase. not after every single one of us invested money or time to get them after they are released. Wg doing their usual thing I guess not up to speed on what they have done to my favourite tier 10 BB Thunderer, nothing good I bet, but it was the same in WoT's, bust your guts to get the Type5 heavy, then in comes the nerfbat from on high, thankfully I rarely go in that game unless the servers or something plays up in WoW's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #25 Posted April 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, gopher31 said: Over performing for three years in spite of several global changes that amounted to nerfs. I agree it is still over performing but why make the change now rather than when it was still broken? Ah yes, now i figured it out: No sane person is playing pleb-cruisers anymore because they are crap, so when better people play Stalingrad, they perform better than noobs in the other crap-cruisers That makes perfect sense actually 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
