Proposed nerfs for RN CL's

[Cyclops_]

Really WG what utter crap fest is this, nerfing the likes of Leander, Fiji & Edinburgh, how can they even thought to be OP???????

 

PT 0.10.4, balance changes - Development blog BETA (worldofwarships.com)

[DFens_666]

Well, i can see the whiny BBabies complaining to WG

"OP SMOKESHIPPS KILL ME FROM DA SMOKE AND I CAN DO NUFFIN ABOUT IT! NURF DEM NAOOO OR I LIEVE DA GAME"

 

BBs get more and more popular, thus more and more noobs are playing this game. Also more whining about DDs/Cruisers from said BBabies.

[Dan7e_DMC]

I can see a resurgence of Conqueror coming with these nerfs to Thunderer range/more reason to take range mod over reload on Thunderer.  The range of Thunderer imo isn't the issue.  Its the alpha strike+fire chance on the HE accuracy that is the issue.

[RAYvenMP]

5 minutes ago, HMCS_Halifax said:

I can see a resurgence of Conqueror coming with these nerfs to Thunderer range/more reason to take range mod over reload on Thunderer.  The range of Thunderer imo isn't the issue.  Its the alpha strike+fire chance on the HE accuracy that is the issue.

funny thing is that CQ and Thunderer are about equal in total games played on EU, thats brutal considering one is tech tree ship and other is coal

 

nerf to mid tier RN CL is probably due to inc. ranked that will focus on T6/T7 and smoke cruisers are pain for many BB players to deal with . Unfair this, unfair that, go figure. We should also expect surge of premiums to be release around that season that will "beat them" to boost sales

[leonport]

to be honest i like the thunderer nerf, now thunderer players can't hit you at the start of the game unless they are running range mod

[arsalan_afx]

what the hell!!!!!!!!!! why in the hell are u nerfing the premium and special ships???? we bust our asses to get this ships. U have no rights to change the stats on them. if you want to change the stats on any premium ship or special ship u should do it before putting it up for sale. we invest our time to get them goddamn it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U have no right to do this to us!!!!!!!

 

 

[Communist_Loli]

2 minutes ago, arsalan_afx said:

what the hell!!!!!!!!!! why in the hell are u nerfing the premium and elite ships???? we bust our asses to get this ships. U have no rights to change the stats on them. if you want to change the stats on any premium ship or elite ship u should do it before putting it up for sale. we invest our time to get them goddamn it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U have no right to do this to us!!!!!!!

 

 

They have every right to do this. 

 

Nowhere did they say they wouldn't be nerfing premiums...

[arttuperkunas]

13 minutes ago, RAYvenMP said:

nerf to mid tier RN CL is probably due to inc. ranked that will focus on T6/T7 and smoke cruisers are pain for many BB players to deal with . Unfair this, unfair that, go figure. We should also expect surge of premiums to be release around that season that will "beat them" to boost sales

I think ranked may have something to do with it, yes. That said, I believe that Leander, Fiji, and Edinburgh all over perform in statistics (despite imo being balanced, not OP ships), so it might also just be a case of balancing by spreadsheet. 

[MrWastee]

[PaP_Mentoles]

Another epic fail from WeeGreedy... Applying changes nobody asked and keeps ignoring feedbacks.

Well done WeeGreedy, keep shooting your feet.

[RenamedUser_92906789]

Finally some balance changes.

[fumtu]

19 minutes ago, arsalan_afx said:

what the hell!!!!!!!!!! why in the hell are u nerfing the premium and elite ships???? we bust our asses to get this ships. U have no rights to change the stats on them. if you want to change the stats on any premium ship or elite ship u should do it before putting it up for sale. we invest our time to get them goddamn it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U have no right to do this to us!!!!!!!

 

Elite ship is just a completely researched tech tree ship so .... it could be changed whenever WG think it is needed. Having elite status on them doesn't change anything.

 

IMO Leander and Fiji nerfs are expected for long time. Not sure if Edin needed any but loosing 7sec of smoke doesn't sound like significant nerf, it would change very little. Real Edin players are using radar anyway. 

[Prophecy82]

Fiji is very strong. Are these nerfs necessary? Probaly not... but it´ll be fine. No reason to go on a rampage. 

Dont care about Edin tho... since I run it with radar. 

[bobtherterrible]

35 minutes ago, RAYvenMP said:

 

nerf to mid tier RN CL is probably due to inc. ranked that will focus on T6/T7 and smoke cruisers are pain for many BB players to deal with . 

nobody expects the radar edingburglar.

 

 

he he

[bobtherterrible]

 

 

32 minutes ago, leonport said:

to be honest i like the thunderer nerf, now thunderer players can't hit you at the start of the game unless they are running range mod

and there you have it.

The reason for the thud nerf is to protect CVs.

 

 

[Tanaka_15]

And wg is still blind for BBs overpopluation problem. 

[mdjmcnally]

I’m was pretty annoyed as used the range mod on conq and thunderer.   Was funny hitting a lepanto to at over 26km with 6 out of 12 shells at that range.

 

how could I do this.   Lepanto was straight line and constant speed potatoing along broadside to me.

 

what was worse was I got a second salvo at them before they started to dodge.

 

thunderer range didn’t need nerfing, people need to stop sailing in straight line and speed or camping thus making long range firing easier.

 

I am now outraged by US BB and that is before they spotter plane up.

 

I would say that the thunderer nerf get around is that is special as opposed to premiums,   Whilst stated only general nerf or buff to premiums rather then specific ships then as they also said no tier x premiums then made tier x specials.

 

and now they are adding the provisio on the description that may be subject to balance changes so new sold ships won’t be immune.

 

Cynical me says is why removing premiums.   Not because too popular but they can remove all of them and only leave newer premiums that can nerf or buff and point at the wording when you bought it.

[Hugh_Ruka]

48 minutes ago, RAYvenMP said:

nerf to mid tier RN CL is probably due to inc. ranked that will focus on T6/T7 and smoke cruisers are pain for many BB players to deal with . Unfair this, unfair that, go figure. We should also expect surge of premiums to be release around that season that will "beat them" to boost sales

That does not explain the nerf to Edin as that one ship would be in the 8-10 ranked bracket and basically only uptiered. Also Edi is not really strong in what it does ...

[Camperdown]

Nasty RN CLs bullying all dem nice RU cruisers and BaBBies 

[arsalan_afx]

41 minutes ago, fumtu said:

 

Elite ship is just a completely researched tech tree ship so .... it could be changed whenever WG think it is needed. Having elite status on them doesn't change anything.

 

IMO Leander and Fiji nerfs are expected for long time. Not sure if Edin needed any but loosing 7sec of smoke doesn't sound like significant nerf, it would change very little. Real Edin players are using radar anyway. 

i meant special ships like thunderer. my mistake

 

[Verblonde]

6 minutes ago, arsalan_afx said:

i meant special ships like thunderer.

They've always been (theoretically) liable to nerfs; it's one of the things that makes them not 'full' premiums (although the latest tranche of premium ships rather blur that distinction).

 

Speaking of premiums, I note that Fenyang gets a modest reload buff; yay - she's now a marginally less carp Aki...!

 

Slightly surprised by the RN CL nerfs; perhaps WG feel that the better players needed a slap - for a potato, these ships are already hardly easy mode.

[Ze_Reckless]

48 minutes ago, arttuperkunas said:

That said, I believe that Leander, Fiji, and Edinburgh all over perform in statistics (despite imo being balanced, not OP ships), so it might also just be a case of balancing by spreadsheet. 

They are excellent DD supporters or even full-fledged DD substitutes when used with radar. It's no wonder that such high impact ships are perceived to be op.

Tbh, Fiji's guns always felt a bit too strong (to be balanced with Belfast?), I expected this nerf sooner.

 

I guess they will be nerfed bit by bit like Jutland and Daring until the spreadsheet is happy.

 

Another way to deal with this would be to teach the pepegas not to show broadside 24/7 but I guess that's impossible. 

[Cyclops_]

3 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

 

 

Slightly surprised by the RN CL nerfs; perhaps WG feel that the better players needed a slap - for a potato, these ships are already hardly easy mode.

Typical potato BB Baby players, I can’t see it yet it shoots me, Nerf it before I cry 

[Odo_Toothless]

Flint supposed to be a "premium", which should not be nerfable, but as we see now it's not the case.

[Exoist]

But is it really a nerf for the Flint? 0,2 sec reload for 0,8 km range?