Playing Navals when its up to XP collected sucks.

[Jimbomaxi]

Playing Navals can be so fun. And sometimes very frustrating. 

Some weeks WoWs had (why?) decided  that XPs given gives you a point in that Navals game.

Why? The matchmaker is a joke, and if you end up in a crap team you have allmost no chance what so ever to get any points for your clan. No matter how good you play. Some weeks its different, like damage done, ribbons captured etc. Those weeks its up to you, not your lousy "teamcomrades, as half the team is dead in five minutes. There are no "teams" in randoms WoWs, even if you think so, and as the MM sucks  badly, please scrap the XP-variant in Navals. 

[ColonelPete]

Do nothing and watch your XP at the end of battle. Looks like XP are indeed dependent of what you do.

[Klopirat]

Vor 5 Minuten, Jimbomaxi sagte:

Some weeks WoWs had (why?) decided  that XPs given gives you a point in that Navals game.

in fact base xp is the "standard"...in 113 rounds of naval battles it was 68x base xp, but only 29x damage and 16x ribbons...

[159Hunter]

If you play well in a high tier game getting between 1000 and 1100 XP on a loss is possible.

If the game is a steamroll then well, forget XP when you lose. But fortunately not all losses are steamrolls.

[ThePurpleSmurf]

12 minutes ago, Jimbomaxi said:

Playing Navals can be so fun. And sometimes very frustrating. 

Some weeks WoWs had (why?) decided  that XPs given gives you a point in that Navals game.

Why? The matchmaker is a joke, and if you end up in a crap team you have allmost no chance what so ever to get any points for your clan. No matter how good you play. Some weeks its different, like damage done, ribbons captured etc. Those weeks its up to you, not your lousy "teamcomrades, as half the team is dead in five minutes. There are no "teams" in randoms WoWs, even if you think so, and as the MM sucks  badly, please scrap the XP-variant in Navals. 

self-reflection goes a long way

[Jimbomaxi]

Yes its possible, but not likely, especially wwen half your team is gone in 5 minutes.

 

[Jimbomaxi]

Might be, but its very infortunate. Your personal skill should be important in navals, not a bunch of players you cant shoose. 

 

 

[159Hunter]

4 minutes ago, Jimbomaxi said:

Yes its possible, but not likely, especially wwen half your team is gone in 5 minutes.

 

1 minute ago, Jimbomaxi said:

Might be, but its very infortunate. Your personal skill should be important in navals, not a bunch of players you cant shoose. 

If your personal skill is sufficient it is most certainly doable and very likely in a lot of losses (bar the few real steamrolls). 

If it is too hard...

[ColonelPete]

8 minutes ago, Jimbomaxi said:

Yes its possible, but not likely, especially wwen half your team is gone in 5 minutes.

Then the match is over and your damage and hit ribbons will suffer equally...

[Jimbomaxi]

Oh, I see the intelligent reserve is here to comment. 

I will try again. Wouldnt the game be much more fun if Your result was more important? Instead of some people/bots that have NO what so ever interest in the result of the NAVALS? Yes or no?

 

[SV_Kompresor]

C'mon...it's not that difficult.

[Gnirf]

2 hours ago, Jimbomaxi said:

Might be, but its very infortunate. Your personal skill should be important in navals, not a bunch of players you cant shoose. 

 

 

The variation of XP, ribbons etc gives all ships various opportunities to shine therefor its good, and the teams , well its no other way simply and we are all in the same boat in the long run.

[Jimbomaxi]

Is it so hard to see what I mean? If the game is fun to play, more players want to play. If it sucks, people are going elsewere to play? Here we have a game, navals, wich could be very fun to play, but isnt. Because if you end up in the wrong team, the losing team, , its allmost impossible to get a 1000 XP.  Why are you guys so negative to a change for the better? I say, scrap individual XP-chase in Navals, it would be better and and more fun. What are you, bots?

 

 

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, Jimbomaxi said:

Is it so hard to see what I mean? If the game is fun to play, more players want to play. If it sucks, people are going elsewere to play? Here we have a game, navals, wich could be very fun to play, but isnt. Because if you end up in the wrong team, the losing team, , its allmost impossible to get a 1000 XP.  Why are you guys so negative to a change for the better? I say, scrap individual XP-chase in Navals, it would be better and and more fun. What are you, bots?

The bots are the ones farming damage. How is that fun for the other people on the team?

[Gnirf]

7 minutes ago, Jimbomaxi said:

Is it so hard to see what I mean? If the game is fun to play, more players want to play. If it sucks, people are going elsewere to play? Here we have a game, navals, wich could be very fun to play, but isnt. Because if you end up in the wrong team, the losing team, , its allmost impossible to get a 1000 XP.  Why are you guys so negative to a change for the better? I say, scrap individual XP-chase in Navals, it would be better and and more fun. What are you, bots?

 

 

So whats the measure you want??

[Jimbomaxi]

What you achive personally of corse. Not what your random "team" (there is no such thing as a team in randoms)

can do. Or rather not can do. 

 

[BrusilovX]

24 minutes ago, Gnirf said:

The variation of XP, ribbons etc gives all ships various opportunities to shine therefor its good, and the teams , well its no other way simply and we are all in the same boat in the long run.

I agree - I've been doing Naval Battles in co-op (which is where I've been hiding since a week after the CV rework) and I usually manage 10/10.   The Naval Battle that is going on at the moment I failed with a TX BB to get the lowest score twice - I did push in but there wasn't  many targets and the game was over before I could do anything.  So, I did switch to a DD and managed it easily.

 

In the past I've switched to Cruisers as well and done OK (never CVs though).

 

I think the variation in targets for Naval Battles is fine - after all if it was the same each week there is no variation and it could get boring.

[159Hunter]

39 minutes ago, Jimbomaxi said:

Is it so hard to see what I mean? If the game is fun to play, more players want to play. If it sucks, people are going elsewere to play? Here we have a game, navals, wich could be very fun to play, but isnt. Because if you end up in the wrong team, the losing team, , its allmost impossible to get a 1000 XP.  Why are you guys so negative to a change for the better? I say, scrap individual XP-chase in Navals, it would be better and and more fun.

How on earth do naval battles add or remove fun. They are just another extra reward you can obtain just by playing your game as always...

39 minutes ago, Jimbomaxi said:

What are you, bots?

I am no bot thank you. I actually manage to get most of these bonusses easily. 

[ColonelPete]

4 hours ago, Jimbomaxi said:

What you achive personally of corse. Not what your random "team" (there is no such thing as a team in randoms)

can do. Or rather not can do.

There is nothing you can achieve only personally in a team game.

 

Create a battle in the test room. Fight a battle alone vs 12 human players and see what amount of damage and hits you can get before being sunk. Compare that to your results in Random.

[Kr1gsG4ldr]

2 ore fa, ColonelPete ha scritto:

There is nothing you can achieve only personally in a team game.

 

Create a battle in the test room. Fight a battle alone vs 12 human players and see what amount of damage and hits you can get before being sunk. Compare that to your results in Random.

Well, considering how a lot of players think in this "teamgame" is like they are the only member who is playing in that moment.

You're right, this should be like you was saying, nobody wins alone but we all know very well that it's rare to find a decent Teamwork that leads to victory.

In the end is like having multiple subteams formed only from one person that think only to score 100 k 200 k of dmg and picking archievements for fill their profiles without even see if the game is loss or win and in base of the situations try to help where needed.

I'm disgusted from this, i'm maybe in wrong on giving judgements, who i am for doing it? But let's not fool ourselves, is all went in this way, wows or not.

[geschlittert]

if you are a good player, getting at least 1200 base xp shouldnt be too hard, even in a loss. And the ribbon missions were pretty dumb, how tf do i get a few hundred ribbons in my UK BBs for example. Secondary build thunderer?

[KillStealBoss]

14 hours ago, Jimbomaxi said:

Oh, I see the intelligent reserve is here to comment. 

Just ignore Colonel. 

[KillStealBoss]

6 hours ago, geschlittert said:

Secondary build thunderer?

Saw that on ranked yesterday 9km secondary range Thunderer 

[Profilus]

14 hours ago, Jimbomaxi said:

Is it so hard to see what I mean? If the game is fun to play, more players want to play.

Fun fact: Some people consider even tiny challenge fun!

Besides, in an awful world you describe, the enemy you "facing" in naval battles has same "problems" that you have.

[Dutchy_2019]

9 hours ago, geschlittert said:

if you are a good player, getting at least 1200 base xp shouldnt be too hard, even in a loss. And the ribbon missions were pretty dumb, how tf do i get a few hundred ribbons in my UK BBs for example. Secondary build thunderer?

 

Not too many players are 'good' players, for one. 

 

Second: this holds true if you play higher tiers (T8 and up). Mid tiers, in losses, it is a whole lot harder to get the 1200 Base XP in a loss. Same with the get 2000 Base XP missions you see for some mission chains. Relatively easy to get in higher tiers, need a serious carry to pull it off in T5-T7.