GaCommanderGice Players 307 posts 23,583 battles Report post #1 Posted April 21, 2021 Hi guys, Was playing Fletcher and already thought something was different about her. Then on in our Clan a Clanmember came up with this page on Reddit where they prove the angles are now different. Not sure if WG knows that they nerfed her, and if they do now, they just nerf ships without giving the information.. Coudn't find another topic about this so posting this here. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] YabbaCoe WG Staff, WG Staff, WG Staff 10,676 posts 5,442 battles Report post #2 Posted April 21, 2021 Před 16 minutami GaCommanderGice řekl/a: Hi guys, Was playing Fletcher and already thought something was different about her. Then on in our Clan a Clanmember came up with this page on Reddit where they prove the angles are now different. Not sure if WG knows that they nerfed her, and if they do now, they just nerf ships without giving the information.. Coudn't find another topic about this so posting this here. Hello, We are currently investigating that. I will return once I will have more info about this topic. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R-M] Isoruku_Yamamoto Players 1,437 posts 16,266 battles Report post #3 Posted April 21, 2021 26 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said: Hello, We are currently investigating that. I will return once I will have more info about this topic. Please investigate aswell whether this only affected fletcher or may have influenced other ships aswell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaCommanderGice Players 307 posts 23,583 battles Report post #4 Posted April 21, 2021 Thanks, Seems like a aa mount is the issue i've read on Reddit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #5 Posted April 21, 2021 lol, "we don't silently nerf ships" what about stats that people cannot check like the income index of prem ships etc. ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] YabbaCoe WG Staff, WG Staff, WG Staff 10,676 posts 5,442 battles Report post #6 Posted April 21, 2021 Před 15 minutami GaCommanderGice řekl/a: Thanks, Seems like a aa mount is the issue i've read on Reddit. It is most likely unintended result of Hull changes on Fletcher. Can you please specify, what exact issue is there with AA mount? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #7 Posted April 21, 2021 32 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said: It is most likely unintended result of Hull changes on Fletcher. Can you please specify, what exact issue is there with AA mount? do you even run tests anymore or are we supposed to test your unrequested changes while paying for premium time?????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #8 Posted April 21, 2021 34 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said: Can you please specify, what exact issue is there with AA mount? Now, this one is easy: the AA doesn't seem to work 1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaCommanderGice Players 307 posts 23,583 battles Report post #9 Posted April 21, 2021 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaCommanderGice Players 307 posts 23,583 battles Report post #10 Posted April 21, 2021 Could be also an issue on the Kidd and Chung Mu, but haven't checked that. Seems the hullchange doesn't let you shoot through that Bofor aa mount. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,650 battles Report post #11 Posted April 21, 2021 2 hours ago, GaCommanderGice said: Hi guys, Was playing Fletcher and already thought something was different about her. Then on in our Clan a Clanmember came up with this page on Reddit where they prove the angles are now different. Not sure if WG knows that they nerfed her, and if they do now, they just nerf ships without giving the information.. Coudn't find another topic about this so posting this here. There are several, I myself posted this in the 0.10.3 bugs thread in the Current update section ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,650 battles Report post #12 Posted April 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, GaCommanderGice said: Could be also an issue on the Kidd and Chung Mu, but haven't checked that. Seems the hullchange doesn't let you shoot through that Bofor aa mount. The other Fletcher variants were not changed in the last update, so they are still the same ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] YabbaCoe WG Staff, WG Staff, WG Staff 10,676 posts 5,442 battles Report post #13 Posted April 21, 2021 Před 44 minutami 159Hunter řekl/a: Now, this one is easy: the AA doesn't seem to work AA doesn't work at all? Před 35 minutami GaCommanderGice řekl/a: Could be also an issue on the Kidd and Chung Mu, but haven't checked that. Seems the hullchange doesn't let you shoot through that Bofor aa mount. Chung Mu and Kidd hulls were not changed. But it really seems to be that, as new AA mounts are blocking the spread. Still nothing confirmed from devs yet. Před 50 minutami hellhound666 řekl/a: do you even run tests anymore or are we supposed to test your unrequested changes while paying for premium time?????? Yes, we are still running plenty of tests. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Tanaka_15 Beta Tester 2,514 posts 20,269 battles Report post #14 Posted April 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said: AA doesn't work at all? Chung Mu and Kidd hulls were not changed. But it really seems to be that, as new AA mounts are blocking the spread. Still nothing confirmed from devs yet. Yes, we are still running plenty of tests. Ho it is possbile for such big company to accidently nerf ship and do not catch that during the test? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] YabbaCoe WG Staff, WG Staff, WG Staff 10,676 posts 5,442 battles Report post #15 Posted April 21, 2021 Před 2 minutami Tanaka_15 řekl/a: Ho it is possbile for such big company to accidently nerf ship and do not catch that during the test? This definitely wasn't intended, as those narrower torpedo angles are unintended result of mounting the new AA mounts, that now those torps obviously can't go through those mounts. As I mentioned before, we are waiting for the information from devs, if it was intended, but unfortunately not communicated, or this wasn't meant to happen at all. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaCommanderGice Players 307 posts 23,583 battles Report post #16 Posted April 21, 2021 Hi @Hugh_Ruka, Wasn't aware of your thread, sorry for that. Thanks for the clarification both you and @YabbaCoe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #17 Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, YabbaCoe said: .... Yes, we are still running plenty of tests. doesn't look like this, doesn't look at all ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,650 battles Report post #18 Posted April 21, 2021 2 hours ago, YabbaCoe said: Yes, we are still running plenty of tests. In Excel ? Because this was obvious after I first saw somebody playing Fletcher on stream after the patch. Also the data must have been CHANGED by somebody intentionally when they were building the model and noticed the interference with the mount yet it was not noted anywhere ? This was a deliberate action, not an unintended consequence. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Tanaka_15 Beta Tester 2,514 posts 20,269 battles Report post #19 Posted April 21, 2021 33 minutes ago, Hugh_Ruka said: In Excel ? Because this was obvious after I first saw somebody playing Fletcher on stream after the patch. Also the data must have been CHANGED by somebody intentionally when they were building the model and noticed the interference with the mount yet it was not noted anywhere ? This was a deliberate action, not an unintended consequence. Who said they need to actually play the game to test it :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cippalippus Players 563 posts 12,734 battles Report post #20 Posted April 21, 2021 Man, I played one game exactly yesterday and thought "hmm, didn't remember these angles". Glad to know that I am not going insane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] YabbaCoe WG Staff, WG Staff, WG Staff 10,676 posts 5,442 battles Report post #21 Posted April 21, 2021 Commanders! There was a collision bug with one of Fletcher’s torpedo launchers. When we were updating stock ship hulls in 0.10.3 we’ve also fixed the torpedo angles for the ship. Regrettably, due to a human mistake, the change was not reflected in patchnotes. We have no intention to hide any changes from you, and we’re sorry for the situation – the change will be added to the patchnotes. As for the effect this change may have on Fletcher – we will see what will happen with ship’s efficiency and will take actions if it will be necessary for the destroyer. We would like to appologize for the inconvenience caused by this. 6 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arturius_2 Players 86 posts 14,246 battles Report post #22 Posted April 21, 2021 3 hours ago, YabbaCoe said: Yes, we are still running plenty of tests. We are asking about game tests not if you run covid or alcohol tests ... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #23 Posted April 21, 2021 22 hours ago, YabbaCoe said: Commanders! There was a collision bug with one of Fletcher’s torpedo launchers. When we were updating stock ship hulls in 0.10.3 we’ve also fixed the torpedo angles for the ship. Regrettably, due to a human mistake, the change was not reflected in patchnotes. We have no intention to hide any changes from you, and we’re sorry for the situation – the change will be added to the patchnotes. As for the effect this change may have on Fletcher – we will see what will happen with ship’s efficiency and will take actions if it will be necessary for the destroyer. We would like to appologize for the inconvenience caused by this. and how many such *edit* up's are in the game? after careful testing ... much testing, such skill ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,650 battles Report post #24 Posted April 21, 2021 3 hours ago, YabbaCoe said: Commanders! There was a collision bug with one of Fletcher’s torpedo launchers. When we were updating stock ship hulls in 0.10.3 we’ve also fixed the torpedo angles for the ship. Regrettably, due to a human mistake, the change was not reflected in patchnotes. We have no intention to hide any changes from you, and we’re sorry for the situation – the change will be added to the patchnotes. As for the effect this change may have on Fletcher – we will see what will happen with ship’s efficiency and will take actions if it will be necessary for the destroyer. We would like to appologize for the inconvenience caused by this. Ah so it was a bug from the start and it was corrected in this patch. Ok, I can take that as long as it is properly documented. It looked like a silent nerf. Thanks for finding out and explaining. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TNDF] KratosTheUnforgiving Players 1,010 posts Report post #25 Posted April 21, 2021 So basically WG gave her an accidental nerf and all the come up with is the usual BS line "we will see what will happen with ship’s efficiency and will take actions if it will be necessary for the destroyer", unacceptable, you have dramatically changed the ships torp efficiency, oh but we forget the all mighty spreadsheet, WG screwing Fletcher owners, plain and simple ! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
