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To play ranked games and win a star and lose it right after is too much frustration. It's been 3 sprints Im stuck to silver league. On this sprint, I cant pass lvl 9, while on last one I was on the qualification round but could not make it for 2 stars. What frustrated me more, is to see players with 40% win rate ranked 2 in silver league. How ? Seriously how that's possible ?

 

Can't we have another system to be promoted ? Like amount of damage or final score ?

The current system is driving so much frustration that I don't enjoy playing this game anymore. When losing on a tight game, it's okay. But when you play 10 games in a row with complete trash teams, it's too much of a despair.

 

Even when I get a game where we are winning 6 ships vs 4, then what ? The team decide that it's a win so they can push without their brain and die miserably, and end up loosing. And Im talking of players with 10000+ games.

 

Just needed to write down my frustration on this forum. How you guys deal with it - that frustration of losing all the time - not because you made mistakes or played badly, but because you get a complete trash team? Last sprint I had 55% win rate, now 50% with this new sprint. I just can't get a single win ! Lost all my 20 ranked games. I need help.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I stopped playing the mode when frustrated. No point as when I'm frustrated I play really bad.

Just switch and play something more calming for a a while.

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Easy, if obvious, solution: Just don't play ranked.

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1 hour ago, Senaika said:

To play ranked games and win a star and lose it right after is too much frustration. It's been 3 sprints Im stuck to silver league.

What is Your goal ? Earn one ranked token ? ;-). If You really need one, then stick to only one best WR/DMG ship. I see You are doing well in CV ? Play a few games/day only to not be tired and frustrated.

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4 hours ago, Senaika said:

To play ranked games and win a star and lose it right after is too much frustration. It's been 3 sprints Im stuck to silver league.

 

 

your Overall winrate is 46.99%, it's not easy win ranked by that low winrate, its doable but not easy

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29 minutes ago, gabberworld said:

 

your Overall winrate is 46.99%, it's not easy win ranked by that low winrate, its doable but not easy

It is doable by game-spamming. The problem is that all the 47% players like you have the same strategy of game-spamming. So, Ranked is funcked.

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If you want to get to highest rank possible, stick to the ship you do best in. In your case it seems to be the Midway. 2nd choice Minotaur. And even then it won't be all roses.

 

With your overall WR you'll have to play a lot of games.

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6 hours ago, Senaika said:

To play ranked games and win a star and lose it right after is too much frustration. It's been 3 sprints Im stuck to silver league. On this sprint, I cant pass lvl 9, while on last one I was on the qualification round but could not make it for 2 stars. What frustrated me more, is to see players with 40% win rate ranked 2 in silver league. How ? Seriously how that's possible ?

From one perspective, you're right. This mode of Sprint ranked is really a big frustration for everyone because if it is a Sprint Mode, everyone should be able to reach up to the top easy like in old Sprint Mode but they can't. Because now, there are more stars to earn than the old Sprint mode which takes more time (watch out here, "more time" not "more skill").

 

From another perspective, you are wrong. You complain about 40% wr players while you have 46.89% wr yourself. You can't even carry your own weight in the games and mostly get carried by better players. Guess what happens in the Golden Sprint League? When a team has a couple of players like you, they automatically lose because two-three players like you means around 50% of the team need carrying and mostly it is not possible. This causes a lot of frustration to better players than you.

 

So, if this was a really ranked system that rewards players according to their skills, you'd be playing in Bronze only. But it is not.

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If you have 47% winrate, you will statistically lose more battles than win. For ranked you need to win battles to gain stars. So, you will not progress.

You may take the ship you play best in and use that. But perhaps it makes more sense to accept the situation and stay in bronze.

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U can have a bad win rate, but still progress by saving the star in the lost games. This is the key. If u keep losing and u dont even keep your star, take a brake from ranked.

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Do not play frustrated. If its a losing If you lose 2-3 games in a row, take a break and do something else. Chill in CO-OP or whatever just relax.

Otherwise what ships do you bring in ranked. Many have said play what you do best in, i'd say play with what you feel most comfortable.

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9 hours ago, Senaika said:

The current system is driving so much frustration that I don't enjoy playing this game anymore. When losing on a tight game, it's okay. But when you play 10 games in a row with complete trash teams, it's too much of a despair.

 

Just needed to write down my frustration on this forum. How you guys deal with it - that frustration of losing all the time - not because you made mistakes or played badly, but because you get a complete trash team?


Let me be frank here, but your stats show that you are one of those "trash team" players.
At 47%, you should be playing in Bronze and be happy for the rewards you are getting there, you should not be in Silver and especially not be complaining when you fail to rank out.

Last night my teams were full of 47% players like yourself, and my ranked WR (usually at 70%) went complete dogsh*t as the enemy teams consistently had a few green (about 52%) players sprinkled in, while I was the only one dragging up my teams who were filled with 47% players (I got no green players on my teams yesterday at all).
I can't always carry the game for a win when there are too many of you, since players at 47% do really dumb plays for no gain and overall hurt their teams.

Poor positioning, poor decision making, poor output - all of these things drag down the chance of winning for the team, before I can start carrying your a**.

Stick to Bronze, the league was created for players like yourself and there's no shame playing there.
But don't complain about "bad teams preventing you from ranking out in Silver", when you yourself are one of those players.

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I am torn. I have ships I do better in, but I don't always feel like playing those. So I'll play some fun ships and lose. Or win. Or I'll play my good ships and lose. Maybe keep the star, maybe not. My point? Don't take ranked seriously.

 

Anecdote: I am very mediocre. A couple of days ago my team threw with gusto. Even the star saving Thunderer died eventually. I played on for five more minutes against three and had a lot of fun. Survived and! Wrested the star away from the useless Thunderer. Made my day.

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What worked for me: 

 

1. Take brakes if you have a loosing streak. You get frustrated and play worse. 

 

2. Never rely on your Team. YOU AND YOU ONLY have to win the battle. Have the Mindset that if you loose it was only your fault.

    Sounds strange? Maybe. But it helps and you get less frustrated esp. with the teams. 

 

3. For the love of F. DONT USE Wows-Stats during or at the beginning of the battle. It will just become self-fullfilling Prophecy. 

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This so called Ranked System for World of Warships aint really a Ranked or League System. Its just Random with less Players and with some Rewards. When u dont Progress into the next "League" ... stick to that what u have and thats earn the Rewards u can get and thats that. Dont try hard for Rank 1 cause that will leave you just with more frustration. This so called Gold League is overcrowded with ppl who dont belong there and thats why this whole game mode is so toxic.

 

My Winrate in Ranked was before i reached gold right from the start by 67% ... as soon as Gold started it went down. Is it me ... partly of course and i know that but also cause there are those players like yourself who try hard and make this game mode for everyone miserable

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those are the Top 20 Players on EU server right now ... i mean over 1000+ games only in Ranked and alot of them are in Gold. They play so bad that a AFK guy has more value for the team ... at least a AFK guy wont shot/torp u or block your way.

Wargaming wont "discriminate" anyone ... so Ranking out in Gold with a negative winrate is possible you just need to be a total *censored* to reach your goal.

 

Its a game ... get better ... if the game wont give u satisfaction ... move on

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10 minutes ago, PanzerCracker said:

This so called Ranked System for World of Warships aint really a Ranked or League System. Its just Random with less Players and with some Rewards. When u dont Progress into the next "League" ... stick to that what u have and thats earn the Rewards u can get and thats that. Dont try hard for Rank 1 cause that will leave you just with more frustration. This so called Gold League is overcrowded with ppl who dont belong there and thats why this whole game mode is so toxic.

 

My Winrate in Ranked was before i reached gold right from the start by 67% ... as soon as Gold started it went down. Is it me ... partly of course and i know that but also cause there are those players like yourself who try hard and make this game mode for everyone miserable

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those are the Top 20 Players on EU server right now ... i mean over 1000+ games only in Ranked and alot of them are in Gold. They play so bad that a AFK guy has more value for the team ... at least a AFK guy wont shot/torp u or block your way.

Wargaming wont "discriminate" anyone ... so Ranking out in Gold with a negative winrate is possible you just need to be a total *censored* to reach your goal.

 

Its a game ... get better ... if the game wont give u satisfaction ... move on

I have the same experience. Played silver the for 3 sprints, now gold.

Very hard to carry.

 

 

Edit: the player stats are a disgrace. The fact that this is the situation shows that WG cares dog crap about their game :cap_viking:

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3 minutes ago, Camperdown said:

Edit: the player stats are a disgrace. The fact that this is the situation shows that WG cares dog crap about their game :cap_viking:

Let's not forget: it also shows players don't really care about the teamplay part of the game.

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4 minutes ago, Camperdown said:

I have the same experience. Played silver the for 3 sprints, now gold.

Very hard to carry.

Players in silver or gold should not be carried.

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Ranked = Random battles with less players. A mode where every tactic used in clan battles gets thrown out of the window. A mode where a 45% WR, 500 battles 'expert' will tell you what you have to do... 

 

I just play the odd game every few days... Slow way to get a dribble of steel is all I see it as. Quite frankly, randoms with a division is far more fun. 

 

Ranked needs to be split. Players need to be told 'Your in this group, now win it and get promoted.' There would be salt and tears galore but at least you'd be surrounded by players as competent as yourself. 

 

As I can't be bothered I am in bronze. I have no plans to even try to get higher. I accept that each match will be an exercise in patients... 🤣 🤣 

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its not like wargaming doesnt know how to do a ranked system ... look what they are doing in WoT. i guess because WoWs only has a small amount of players compared to the 100k daily players only on the EU server is that they try out how

they can do Ranked ... WoWs is the tryout Horse to present a better player experience in their main game ... from the business site i can understand this but not from my customer view. you can read the whole articel https://worldoftanks.eu/en/content/guide/ranked_battles_guide/ here

 

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5 hours ago, 22cm said:

It is doable by game-spamming. The problem is that all the 47% players like you have the same strategy of game-spamming. So, Ranked is funcked.

only thing is im ranked out, and most off time i carry them with my dd or at least save the star,but yes there been bad days for me as well

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2 hours ago, PanzerCracker said:

its not like wargaming doesnt know how to do a ranked system ... look what they are doing in WoT. i guess because WoWs only has a small amount of players compared to the 100k daily players only on the EU server is that they try out how

they can do Ranked ... WoWs is the tryout Horse to present a better player experience in their main game ... from the business site i can understand this but not from my customer view. you can read the whole articel https://worldoftanks.eu/en/content/guide/ranked_battles_guide/ here

 

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The system how Chevrons are earned should be taken over. I like the idea that the last few on winning team don't gain anything and the top score on losing team actually gains ...

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If you don't want to rely on getting carried, you should improve your own gameplay. I mean, sure, streaks of teams full of bad players  are annoying, but step one to solving that problem is not being one of the bad players.

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The question is: Why do you even want to rank out? There is no reward for doing so unlike the old ranked where every climb mattered and bringed you rewards. Oh and rank 1 gave 2500 doubloons out of 2750 and ussualy around 20% of the ammount of total steel.(tier 10 ranked was 5500 steel,out of that 1000 was sitting at rank 1) 

Nowadays there is no difference from going from rank 10 to rank 3, NONE. 

All in all just grab the victory rewards,otherwise if you really want to rank out have patience and imagine that you are playing random but it is 7vs7.

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