did anyone else noticed the decrease in rewards in current dockyard event compared to last dockyard?

leonport · April 18, 2021

I just noticed how little value you get for outside of the tier 9 premium ship in current dockyard for the same amount of money compared to last dockyard

just look at these pictures:

this is hizen you get

*10k coal

*large gift container

*2k steel(best reward in my eyes)

*hizen herself with unique camo and 10point commander

ALL this for 5k dubs remember also look at how much individual stages cost its 1950 dubs so if you wannted to get all of the last stage rewards but you didn'T buyed starter packs you needed to pay 7800dubs which also means you get 2800 dubs discount if you bought starter pack

this is zf-6 dockyard

for the last 3 stages you get:

*10k coal

*5 gift container

*zf-6 herself with cammo and 10point commander

and this for the same 5000 dubs really?also did you guys notice how much the individual stage cost increased?its increased from 1950 to 2200dubs which means you need to pay 6600 dubs to get through all of the last directives if you didn't bought starterpack which is way lesser discount than the starter pack for hizen and you get way less and shitty rewards compared to hizen dockyard

The last directives in ZF-6 dockyard seems like a scam compared to hizen dockyard's rewards

Even if you think hizen is a terrible ship you gotta admit the last 3 directives worth 5k dubs themselves but at ZF-6 dockyard if you don't like ZF-6 you have 0 reason to spend any money on this dockyard because the rewards are terrible for the price tag

I really wonder if wg even wants my money at this point

MementoMori_6030 · April 18, 2021

Vor 3 Minuten, leonport sagte:

I really wonder if wg even wants my money at this point

Yes. And nothing else.

leonport · April 18, 2021

Just now, MementoMori_6030 said:

Yes. And nothing else.

then they gotta do something else because these rewards does not make me reach for my wallet

DFens_666 · April 18, 2021

2 minutes ago, leonport said:

its increased from 1950 to 2200dubs which means you need to pay 6600 dubs to get through all of the last directives if you didn't bought starterpack which is way lesser discount than the starter pack for hizen and you get way less and shitty rewards compared to hizen dockyard

Back with Odin/Anchorage, it was even only 1750...

Incidently, the packs are actually cheaper. With anchorage, you could buy 8 phases for 8k =1k each, now its 10 phases for 9950 = <1k each. So we can assume, WG wants people to buy the starter packages instead, so that people have to do the complete grind. If you dont buy the packages, you arent pressured into completing all the directives if you dont want to. But if you already spent money, you are probably more willing to complete it, or if you still dont manage it, put even more money into it.

lovelacebeer · April 18, 2021

Not that I agree with this argument but I believe the explanation ( perhaps excuse would be a better word) WG give is the Hizen was more generous because it coincided with Christmas.

Although this is pretty normal with WG they do appear to be getting less generous over time, almost as though testing what’s the minimum they can get away with.

leonport · April 18, 2021

1 minute ago, DFens_666 said:

Back with Odin/Anchorage, it was even only 1750...

Incidently, the packs are actually cheaper. With anchorage, you could buy 8 phases for 8k =1k each, now its 10 phases for 9950 = <1k each. So we can assume, WG wants people to buy the starter packages instead, so that people have to do the complete grind. If you dont buy the packages, you arent pressured into completing all the directives if you dont want to. But if you already spent money, you are probably more willing to complete it, or if you still dont manage it, put even more money into it.

yeah but you can say that its increased because these are tier 9 premiums and they worth more money

Karasu_Browarszky · April 18, 2021

It looks like it is really difficult to make a direct comparison, because so many things vary from Dockyard to Dockyard. Note that it is not just the tier, ship class, or the prices and rewards that change, but also the length in terms of stages. Add to that the varying difficulty levels of the missions themselves and you got one tough nut to crack.

Gwynbleidd11 · April 18, 2021

Its quite bad this time mainly because of no mid tier premium ship and no steel. What they loose by giving steel in last stages? They give easy steel in ranked, so why not in dockyard? Seems like an oversight from WG

leonport · April 18, 2021

12 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

It looks like it is really difficult to make a direct comparison, because so many things vary from Dockyard to Dockyard. Note that it is not just the tier, ship class, or the prices and rewards that change, but also the length in terms of stages. Add to that the varying difficulty levels of the missions themselves and you got one tough nut to crack.

i don't think the lenght decreased because while hizen had more stages ZF-6 first 6 misson chains only give 2 building while if i remember right hizen give 3 and 4 for the last stage

so the time it takes to unlock all dockyard stages didn't change and the difficulty may have change a bit but like if you are someone like me who has skill in the game hizen dockyard missons just take some time to pass but they were not hard

Mad_Dog_Dante · April 18, 2021

29 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said:

Although this is pretty normal with WG they do appear to be getting less generous over time, almost as though testing what’s the minimum they can get away with.

They are. In everything.

Karasu_Browarszky · April 18, 2021

11 minutes ago, leonport said:

i don't think the lenght decreased because while hizen had more stages ZF-6 first 6 misson chains only give 2 building while if i remember right hizen give 3 and 4 for the last stage

so the time it takes to unlock all dockyard stages didn't change and the difficulty may have change a bit but like if you are someone like me who has skill in the game hizen dockyard missons just take some time to pass but they were not hard

I think the missions are the crux of the matter. Before spending a penny on those starter packs, people should carefully go over the missions and decide if they think they have a reasonable chance of pulling it off on time (I hate time gated content myself).

JohnMac79 · April 18, 2021

To be honest, i have not even opened the dockyard... that is how interested i am in WG events these days.

DFens_666 · April 18, 2021

Just now, JohnMac79 said:

To be honest, i have not even opened the dockyard... that is how interested i am in WG events these days.

Havent even started the game in like 10 days now :cap_fainting: well not true, did once, because someone asked for div but then was the update and took me 45 mins so i dodged the bullet :Smile_trollface:

JohnMac79 · April 18, 2021

Just now, DFens_666 said:

Havent even started the game in like 10 days now well not true, did once, because someone asked for div but then was the update and took me 45 mins so i dodged the bullet

Yesterday was the first time in a week that i had opened the game too, played until i lost a game then quit.

Maris_Piper · April 18, 2021

Not much Coal, No Steel, No freebie Premium, Containers with :etc_swear: all worth having (See Italian BB Event) and another imo Meh Ship.

Added to a Constant run of Mediocre Premiums in the shop. It does seem for a company Totally Obsessed with Money They Don't Want to Make much of an Effort to Get Mine :Smile_coin:

Karasu_Browarszky · April 18, 2021

On 4/18/2021 at 12:55 PM, JohnMac79 said:

Yesterday was the first time in a week that i had opened the game too, played until i lost a game then quit.

That's how I usually play WoT. That way I get to spend about 2 mins in the game every few weeks or so. :Smile_Default:

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NobleRipper · April 18, 2021

Imagine a casino that comes up with its own 'games', that require an investment of at least time and also money for those who want to get to the highest level (but with enough theoretically free stuff that they can still legally say that you don't have to spend a penny to get most rewards). Imagine that there are a certain number of levels. Imagine they have rewards at each stage. Also, there are strict time limits on everything.

Then imagine them being able to change the rules of the game every time so it's not clear to the casual observer how the minutiae have changed, making for uncertainty and less informed decision making; imagine them gradually reducing the rewards over time so that the feeling of 'achievement' nominally remains the same but the players are conditioned to accept less and less for their effort/cash; imagine them even being able to change the number of levels available on a whim, along with associated costs, to further pull the rug out from under people who get complacent. Just for kicks, let's suppose that they have a super-special premium buy-in bundle available for the game, for those who want a leg up, which (brilliantly) comes with its own hefty dose of FOMO/sunk cost obligation.

How long would that casino last before being legislated out of existence (assuming it was legal for it even to open in the first place)?

Edit: For anyone with a background of psychology, feel free to point out all the psychological levers that are described in the above; I know there are quite a few which are already recognised phenomena/manipulative tactics. I would be genuinely interested to know the extent of it...

Ocsimano18 · April 18, 2021

Also in the first four or five weeks, you only get two levels per week, so you get even less if you don’t do the heavy grind in the last three weeks.

lossi_2018 · April 18, 2021

6 hours ago, lovelacebeer said:

what’s the minimum they can get away with.

0.1 coal is the ultimate goal

PaP_Mentoles · April 18, 2021

I wonder why do you still bother with any "event" from WeeGreedy?

Just say no. Just close the wallets. It's so easy.

NewHorizons_1 · April 18, 2021

14 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said:

0.1 coal is the ultimate goal

Here you go. Don't use it all at once :Smile-_tongue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coal_anthracite.jpg

The intermediate dockyard rewards do seem a little stingy this time round. That could work against WG :- I was half tempted to have a stab at this one but after seeing what you get along the way I'll pass.

What was really noticeable was those lousy rewards from the 2nd phase of the Italian Battleships event. The first phase was fine, early access to the tech tree ships and all that. But one flag in a crate. What?! Had the moths eaten the rest?