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Very poor dockyard this time... low amount of free XP, no permacamos, no steel, no medium tier premiums. Sales will surely be much lower than in any previous dockyards

 

What can be found in "Gift containers"? Premium ships?

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Hello The Eurl Guy,

 

I am an average player who want to progress faster in the game and ready to use my card to achieve that. When I read your material regarding nerfing Thunderer and Stalingrad I change my mind.

So I'm asking you today the following question:

Why should I invest real money to buy doubloons and pay all phases(by the way price/phase increase since Hizen, I don't know why, maybe covid 19) to gain coal and steel in order to buy this wonderfull ships if you are nerfing them?

I would like to buy them both. Is not the players fault that you made them OP so you can win a lot of money.

 

A quick answer will be appreciate it

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10 minutes ago, Gwynbleidd11 said:

Very poor dockyard this time... low amount of free XP, no permacamos, no steel, no medium tier premiums. Sales will surely be much lower than in any previous dockyards

 

What can be found in "Gift containers"? Premium ships?

WG -no probably like in the standard italian containers just camos and signals

 

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Just now, MALUS_DACUS_1600 said:

Hello The Eurl Guy,

 

I am an average player who want to progress faster in the game and ready to use my card to achieve that. When I read your material regarding nerfing Thunderer and Stalingrad I change my mind.

So I'm asking you today the following question:

Why should I invest real money to buy doubloons and pay all phases(by the way price/phase increase since Hizen, I don't know why, maybe covid 19) to gain coal and steel in order to buy this wonderfull ships if you are nerfing them?

I would like to buy them both. Is not the players fault that you made them OP so you can win a lot of money.

 

A quick answer will be appreciate it

 

If you dont want balanced ships in the game better just stop playing WoWs at all. 

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22 minutes ago, xKamizholx said:

Hi !

 

What can we hope in the conteners of the 21th phase ?

If I am not mistaken it's these (see picture).

 

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Just now, MALUS_DACUS_1600 said:

Is there something balanced in this game?

 

Yes, but more balance would not hurt. Crying that OP ships are slightly nerfed is ridiculous

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1 minute ago, Gwynbleidd11 said:

 

Yes, but more balance would not hurt. Crying that OP ships are slightly nerfed is ridiculous

It's about principles not how much is nerfed, but I see that is difficult for you to understand that.

All the best mate

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Going to be my first dockyard event I am going to sit out. Rewards are not really that great. Even if (?) the missions are easy and 200k captain xp and even 3 mil credits ( yes I am that cash poor) might be interested to pick up by just playing regular I will not divert any extra time for this event.
 

The liberating feeling of no longer having premium time helps in limiting my time spend. From next month onwards, log in and take daily reward and play 3 games for first 3 daily missions in co op and the bonus coal crate. Play a bit more in weekend when i want. 
 


 

 

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Před 50 minutami xKamizholx řekl/a:

Hi !

 

What can we hope in the conteners of the 21th phase ?

I will investigate about those.

 

Před 45 minutami Morski_Dzik řekl/a:

No steel ?

You can get 200 steel for every phase you would get from Combat missions after finishing the Dockyard for doubloons.

 

Před 34 minutami MALUS_DACUS_1600 řekl/a:

Hello The Eurl Guy,

 

I am an average player who want to progress faster in the game and ready to use my card to achieve that. When I read your material regarding nerfing Thunderer and Stalingrad I change my mind.

So I'm asking you today the following question:

Why should I invest real money to buy doubloons and pay all phases(by the way price/phase increase since Hizen, I don't know why, maybe covid 19) to gain coal and steel in order to buy this wonderfull ships if you are nerfing them?

I would like to buy them both. Is not the players fault that you made them OP so you can win a lot of money.

 

A quick answer will be appreciate it

Price for one phase increased, but in overal, ZF-6 is cheaper to Hizen, as you needed 4 phases to obtain by doubloons for Hizen, but now you need only 3.

Also ZF-6 is a premium ship and doesn't have a mark of "may be nerfed in future".

Thunderer and Stalingrad will be slightly nerfed, because they are special ships and obtained only for ingame currency. Also those nerfes aren't that harsh, to drastically lower their battle performance.

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32 minutes ago, MALUS_DACUS_1600 said:

It's about principles not how much is nerfed, but I see that is difficult for you to understand that.

All the best mate

 

You seem completely clueless. But what can we expect from player with 300 battles? 

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Před 1 hodinou xKamizholx řekl/a:

Hi !

 

What can we hope in the conteners of the 21th phase ?

 

Před 56 minutami Gwynbleidd11 řekl/a:

Very poor dockyard this time... low amount of free XP, no permacamos, no steel, no medium tier premiums. Sales will surely be much lower than in any previous dockyards

 

What can be found in "Gift containers"? Premium ships?

 

Found that in one of previous articles:

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Here's the rewards for the ZF-6's 22 phases:

 

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Minimal doubloon cost - 5000

- 200,000 Elite Commander XP
- 3,000,000 Credits
- 12,000 Coal
- 4 days of Premium Account
- 15,000 Free XP
- 15x Hunter camouflages
- 15x "Black, White, Red" camouflages
- 10x special signals of each type
- 10x Gift containers

- ZF-6, extra camo, flag, 10p captain

 

Anchorage had 20 phases and gave:

 

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Minimal doubloon cost - 3000

- 100,000 Free XP

- 17,500 Coal

- 4 days of Warships Premium Account

- 10x signals of each of the following types: Hydra, Basilisk, Scylla, Leviathan, Dragon, Red Dragon, Ouroboros, and Wyvern

- 7x Gift containers

- 15x Stars'n'Stripes camouflages

- Anchorage, camo, flag, 10p captain

 

The Odin event had 20 phases and gave:

 

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Minimal doubloon cost - 3500

- VIII Odin

- VI Admiral Graf Spee in the War Paint camouflage with a 10-skill-point Commander

- 17,500 Coal

- 4 days of Warships Premium Account

- 10x each of the following signals: Hydra, Basilisk, Scylla, Leviathan, Dragon, Red Dragon, and Ouroboros

- 10,000 Free XP

- 15x Hunter camouflages

- 5x Gift containers

 

Hizen had 26 phases and gave:

 

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Minimal doubloon cost - 5000  

- IX Hizen in the War Paint camouflage, slot, 10p captain and flag

- V Yahagi with a Port slot, the Winter permanent camouflage, and a Commander with 6 skill points
- II Tachibana with a Port slot, the Winter permanent camouflage, and a Commander with 6 skill points

- 1x Santa's Mega Gift container
- 2x Santa's Big Gift containers
- 1x Santa's Gift container
- 1x New Year permanent camouflage for Tier IX ships
- 12,000 Coal

- 2000 Steel
- 80x special signals
- 10,000 Free XP
- 2 days of Warships Premium Account
- 25x Winter Strands camouflages

 

Pay To Ree had 36 phases and offered:

 

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Minimal cost - your sanity and self respect

- X Puerto Rico, camo, 10p captain etc.

- VII Gorizia

- 15,000 Free XP

- 25,000 Coal

- 2000 Steel

- 200x economy flags

- 80x special signals

- 15x special camos

- 2x New Year permanent camouflage for Tier VIII ships

- 4 days of Warships Premium Account

- 8x Gift containers

- 1x Santa's Mega Gift container
- 1x Santa's Big Gift containers
- 1x Santa's Gift container

 

Just so everyone knows what other events cost in comparison.

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Completely uninteresting for me, i was hoping for some mid tier ship as a reward or at least some more coal, special flags or free exp, but i'm not going to bother specifically grinding for those rewards. If i complete some of the missions as i play- fabulous, if not it is not a big loss.

I hope the missions are easy tho, for those of you who actually want the ZF.:Smile_Default:

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17 hours ago, Aragathor said:

Just so everyone knows what other events cost in comparison.

It's just Wargaming being Wargaming 2021 that's just how they Roll Nowadays I don' t really think anyone is shocked anymore, :Smile_coin:  this will probably be a No for me as was Hizen.

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33 minutes ago, Gwynbleidd11 said:

 

You seem completely clueless. But what can we expect from player with 300 battles? 

Oh dear ... resorting to insults are we?

 

Point being something is sold with certain parameters, said parameters should not change just like when I go to buy soda it doesnt turn out to be milk because its more healthy, those ships had defined parameters that should not be changed, otherwise we are going to have a situation were WG releases OP just to nerf down the line after the sales period is over and a near identical OP shows up.

 

Also if you want balance, thats is easy ... everyone gets 1hp, their weapons does 1dmg and everything reloads in 20 seconds, its also not going to very exciting but hey, its as balanced as you can get.

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3 minutes ago, WWDragon said:

Oh dear ... resorting to insults are we?

 

Point being something is sold with certain parameters, said parameters should not change just like when I go to buy soda it doesnt turn out to be milk because its more healthy, those ships had defined parameters that should not be changed, otherwise we are going to have a situation were WG releases OP just to nerf down the line after the sales period is over and a near identical OP shows up.

 

Also if you want balance, thats is easy ... everyone gets 1hp, their weapons does 1dmg and everything reloads in 20 seconds, its also not going to very exciting but hey, its as balanced as you can get.


Dude it is WG we are talking about. The only promises they will not break are those which can potentially get them in legal trouble and/or massively hurt their profits.
That said, the only ships safe from receiving a direct nerf are those premiums sold for cash in the premium shop, without the little "Balancing rights reserved" note which accompanied the Flandre. 
Stalingrad was sold for steel and Thunderer for coal, meaning there is nothing stopping WG from nerfing them. And i'm pretty sure that is the fate which awaits FDR and Austin.

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1 hour ago, YabbaCoe said:

I will investigate about those.

 

You can get 200 steel for every phase you would get from Combat missions after finishing the Dockyard for doubloons.

 

Price for one phase increased, but in overal, ZF-6 is cheaper to Hizen, as you needed 4 phases to obtain by doubloons for Hizen, but now you need only 3.

Also ZF-6 is a premium ship and doesn't have a mark of "may be nerfed in future".

Thunderer and Stalingrad will be slightly nerfed, because they are special ships and obtained only for ingame currency. Also those nerfes aren't that harsh, to drastically lower their battle performance.

How is ZF cheaper? 5000 dublons for the starter pack here and at Hizen, it is irrelevant how many phases you get for it. And at the Hizen dockyard you got three ships, much more coal, steel and rewards overall. This is a very poor dockyard. Here you can only get steel for dublons, at the previous dockyards it was phase reward and you got RP for completion of already paid phases. If you bought all phases here you pay 38150 dublons, at Hizen you paid 38350 and got three ships? How is ZF cheaper?

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17 minutes ago, Cheeky_chappie said:

That said, the only ships safe from receiving a direct nerf are those premiums sold for cash in the premium shop, without the little "Balancing rights reserved" note which accompanied the Flandre. 

But even those ships can be nerfed into oblivion with global changes. T7 and lower light cruiser premiums say "HI!".

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Před 2 minutami nagymacs_2020 řekl/a:

How is ZF cheaper? 5000 dublons for the starter pack here and at Hizen, it is irrelevant how many phases you get for it. And at the Hizen dockyard you got three ships, much more coal, steel and rewards overall. This is a very poor dockyard. Here you can only get steel for dublons, at the previous dockyards it was phase reward and you got RP for completion of already paid phases. If you bought all phases here you pay 38150 dublons, at Hizen you paid 38350 and got three ships? How is ZF cheaper?

Indeed starter pack prize is the same. ZF-6 can be cheaper comparing situation, when you decide not to take any starter pack and later willing to finish the building for doubloons.

Also in Hizen dockyard, rewards were higher as it was during Christmas/New Year celebration, where actually all rewards were higher.

But indeed, you are right. Finishing ZF-6 dockyard is not much cheaper than finishing Hizen dockyard.

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Why is a French DD, that was captured unfinished (and never completed RL), built in HAMBURG Dockyard?:Smile_amazed:

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