Farewell historical 6x1 203mm Furutaka

[Adm_Andre]

Farewell historical 6x1 203mm Furutaka 

 

You teached me to appreciate the slow reload, AP citadels pen over to these fast firing yankies.

 

"Master Furataka and enjoy than Myoko, Mogami (, Ibuki) and Zao"

 

Bye bye

 

[rinkula_go]

?

 

Where is Furutaka going?

[rage1750]

She is a mighty fine ship alright.  

[Jvd2000]

Historical it would have been 6x1 200 mm. She only got the 203’s after upgrading the guns to 3x2. But even taking into account the sad fact that yet another hull type is being deleted the 3x2 gun setup is way superior.

[Verblonde]

20 minutes ago, rinkula_go said:

?

 

Where is Furutaka going?

Presumably a reference to this:

 

 

(Part of the modules changes bit of the notes for the upcoming patch).

[lafeel]

45 minutes ago, Adm_Andre said:

Farewell historical 6x1 203mm Furutaka 

Wrong, historically Furutaka never had 6X1 203mm guns. She had 6X1 200mm guns, she only got the 203's with the refit to 3x2.

[Seaman_Staines1]

Historical

 

That word is not in WG dictionary.

[lafeel]

Semi related note, anyone else think they may be about to give the Fletcher and Chung Mu the same A-hulls? Here's a pair of screencaps that illustrate the (minor, but they are there) differences between the two.

[FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor]

Vor 16 Minuten, lafeel sagte:

Semi related note, anyone else think they may be about to give the Fletcher and Chung Mu the same A-hulls? Here's a pair of screencaps that illustrate the (minor, but they are there) differences between the two.

Pshshsht don't give them ideas, or we end up with a hydro Fushun/Anshan!1

 

[Sweedish_Gunner]

Incoming premium IJN Kako with the pre-refit armament. 

[Humorpalanta]

You will be missed my old friend... :'(

 

You dared to be different and I liked you for it. Sleep well.

[wot_2016_gunner]

10 ore fa, Adm_Andre ha scritto:

 historical 6x1

So what? both configurations are historical

 

plus Kongo, Fuso, Nagato and Amagi have had their OG stock hulls removed for a while by now (they made Mutsu and Ashitaka out of them; I'm still waiting for Yamashiro) but anyway, it's not the first time that a stock hull get removed and replaed with one that looks very similar to the last hull. 

[hellhound666]

9 hours ago, Scipio_Africanus1829 said:

Historical

 

That word is not in WG dictionary.

it might be a national trait

[invicta2012]

8 hours ago, Sweedish_Gunner said:

Incoming premium IJN Kako with the pre-refit armament. 

Great if so, if she comes with a choice of heavy torpedo load and 200mm guns or the current B hull Furutaka that would be fun (and much better than the other Japanese Tier V Prem cruiser).

 

Sad about the Furry Taco, though - I still play the B hull as it's such a distinctive ship. Will sell it once the changes hit and it becomes a weaker Aoba. 

[fumtu]

9 hours ago, lafeel said:

Semi related note, anyone else think they may be about to give the Fletcher and Chung Mu the same A-hulls? Here's a pair of screencaps that illustrate the (minor, but they are there) differences between the two.

 

No. During one of the Q&A sessions during the last year, it was said that all US DDs should get new models and that work on them is in quite advanced phase. But nothing more was said about this since then. Fletcher model represent original design for the class, with rounded bridge while Chung Mu is representing both later version of the Fletcher with square bridge but also the post war modernization (closed bridge and new radar). So they would not share same A hull. 

[Panocek]

4 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

Great if so, if she comes with a choice of heavy torpedo load and 200mm guns or the current B hull Furutaka that would be fun (and much better than the other Japanese Tier V Prem cruiser).

 

Sad about the Furry Taco, though - I still play the B hull as it's such a distinctive ship. Will sell it once the changes hit and it becomes a weaker Aoba. 

Afaik initial Furutaka class had fixed torpedo tubes in the hull, only after refit they got "normal" torpedo launchers on the deck?

[invicta2012]

15 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Afaik initial Furutaka class had fixed torpedo tubes in the hull, only after refit they got "normal" torpedo launchers on the deck?

I think the appeal for me is more about the principal aesthetics of this particular design than it is about historical exactitude; I know WG doesn't want to model fixed tubes so deck mounted is fine, as it is on the current Furutaka A/B hulls. From a gameplay PoV I think Kako, with 6 x 2 torpedo tubes (even with limited traverse), would make a better balanced example of the Japanese "Torpedo Cruiser" type than than Yahagi does, it's just that bit more durable, and with the slow gun reload it is already pretty well balanced. 

[Jvd2000]

42 minutes ago, wot_2016_gunner said:

So what? both configurations are historical

plus Kongo, Fuso, Nagato and Amagi have had their OG stock hulls removed for a while by now (they made Mutsu and Ashitaka out of them; I'm still waiting for Yamashiro) but anyway, it's not the first time that a stock hull get removed and replaed with one that looks very similar to the last hull. 

Did the old US battleships not have original A hulls as well with those distinctive round wire cage masts?

 

The grind of the old stock hulls was really a pain and required self control regarding the use of your FXP ( at that time super camo’s and flags were not that much around and FXP was more scarce) But it had its flavor.

 

Sad to see it all go away.

[wot_2016_gunner]

Proprio ora, Jvd2000 ha scritto:

Did the old US battleships not have original A hulls as well with those distinctive round wire cage masts?

Yes, Stock hull Colorado became W.Virginia 1941; i wanted to say in the post, i then i decided not to. Not sure about the other US BBs

[Aragathor]

9 hours ago, Sweedish_Gunner said:

Incoming premium IJN Kako with the pre-refit armament. 

Yeah, but one tier lower and "balanced" so that it's the worst T4 cruiser in the game.

Same goes for A hull Bayern, it will be the  Baden at T5 with 45s reload for "balance".

 

WG tossed quality and creativity away long ago.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

@Panocek My trusty source tells me that:

 

"Bei Umbau Ersatz der Hauptartillerie durch neuen Geschütztyp, Verlagerund der Torpedorohre von Haupt- auf Oberdeck, Anbau von Torpedowülsten."

 

Furutaka was built as the first Washington Treaty based heavy cruiser in '22-26 getting a refit in 36-38 (Kako following in 37-39). As far as the historical main armament goes, if I'm reading this right, they went from 6 x 200 mm to 6 x 203 mm, both quick firing. For further details I need to go to the Wikipedia, because my trusty source is a little skimp on the details neglecting to indicate that the catapult was not part of the original armament but added in 1933.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_cruiser_Furutaka

 

The diagrams I have show the original Furutaka with single turrets, and the refitted Kako with twin turrets. Wikipedia confirms that Furutaka was similarly re-armed.

 

@PaP_Mentoles WeeGreedy should not tamper with historical hulls/armament. (I also have the historical Bayern.)

[Panocek]

1 minute ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

WeeGreedy should not tamper with historical hulls/armament

Don't worry, Zed 23 is already about to lose her 15cm guns on the altar of gimmick god 

[Fat_Maniac]

12 hours ago, Adm_Andre said:

Farewell historical 6x1 203mm Furutaka 

 

You teached me to appreciate the slow reload, AP citadels pen over to these fast firing yankies.

 

"Master Furataka and enjoy than Myoko, Mogami (, Ibuki) and Zao"

 

Bye bye

 

Don't worry.

She will be back.

WG will copy paste the hull onto a new shiny premium boat for you to buy.

[lafeel]

6 hours ago, fumtu said:

 

No. During one of the Q&A sessions during the last year, it was said that all US DDs should get new models and that work on them is in quite advanced phase. But nothing more was said about this since then. Fletcher model represent original design for the class, with rounded bridge while Chung Mu is representing both later version of the Fletcher with square bridge but also the post war modernization (closed bridge and new radar). So they would not share same A hull. 

Fair enough, but I was more referring to the bofors gun arrangement than that.

[ImperialAdmiral]

Do not worry.

 

Soon to buy as Premium Cruiser Kako 1926