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What should happen to Z23 150s?

What should happen to Z23 150s?  

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  1. 1. What should happen to Z23 150s?

    • New Z23 is okay and doesn't need a change. Also 150 mm guns can just be yeeted because who cares about history.
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    • New Z23 should be renamed to random name and Z23 150s should become coal premium with little buffs.
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Hello,

 

Type 1936A class destroyers or Z23 in game always had 150 mm guns irl and in PTS Z23 getting only 128 mm guns is completely wrong for someone knowing the 1936A class.

 

For Comparison here is IRL sister of "Z23" KMS Z32 and below her is current In game Z23.

 

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Just like Z23, KMS Z32 equipped with 5 150 mm guns and current Z23 is in her historical version.

 

But WG changing Z23 into more fantasy mix with 3 single 128s and 1 dual 128s which she never had in IRL not to mention fire control is also very different.

 

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Yeah it's direct buff but it just feels wrong and i still want my original or historical Z23. 

 

So here i say new Z23 should be renamed to one of the planned names for Type 1936A class DDs and 150 mm variant Z23 should become coal premium ship with maybe 6 seconds base reload to balance her between this new DD.

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It is a shame that they butchered class like this. I don't understand why they didn't simple replace it with Z-36 as they already have a model of Type 1936C in the game.

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from a gameplay pov, the new 5x128mm Z-23 is an improvement over the previous one. More DPM, less smoke firing penalty. However it is no longer the Z-23, it is something else.

 

And since the commander rework both 128 and 150mm DD guns benefit from all skills, so even the captain can be the same as on the remaining 128mm DDs of the line.

 

I don't know ... I'd prefer the current one (128+150 option) to stay for history sake. maybe swap it to a coal ship and replace with a 5x128mm vessel with some other name ?

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Replace the z-23 with something else

Make her coal/freexp/whatnot

Replace consumables in DCP-SMK/RP-Hydro/Radar fashion

Give her better torps

Presto a decent premium, she can even go to T9

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51 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

Replace consumables in DCP-SMK/RP-Hydro/Radar fashion

 

Yes more radar ship, especially more DD radars is exactly what this game need. I can't wait the day when all 24 ships in the match, from DDs to CVs, from all in game nations and tiers, would be equipped with radar. that would be such a lovely day /not

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It's like they wanted to remove the 150's so the new line can be 'special' and have its gimmick but they forgot the real Z-23 had 150mm guns whilst doing it. 

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Not only is it a buff, it also speeds up the grind in her. While I am not a fan of ahistorical versions of a historical ship, this time I am okay with the change.

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Ib4 Mogami gets same treatment.

 

Then we Get IJN Light Cruiser line, with T7 &T8 155mm Mogami clones named Mikuma & Suzuya which differ in AA and with Tripple vs Quad Torpedo tube launcers.

 

... And the last sister, Kumano, will be a Premium with ability to swap between 155mm's and 203mm's

 

T9 & 10 ships will then be clones based on Zao's hull, to save time and money on model developement that staff can spend then in devicing ways to re-use assets in next cash-grap scifi mode, armed with 6x3 155mm's.

 

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Ps. As I did just save WG 6months of developement and balancing (Lmao) time, I do believe I should get some reward...

 

...How about a container with 1 Scylla flag?

Or

If WG is extra generous, 50 doubloons

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Accidentally posted while unfinished

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5 hours ago, lafeel said:

Not only is it a buff, it also speeds up the grind in her. While I am not a fan of ahistorical versions of a historical ship, this time I am okay with the change.

They should rename it as Z-23A, after her class (1936A). This ship has the same relationship to the actual Z-23 as KGV does to Monarch. Close but not the same. I know they've already done this gun thing once (Wakeful, which never actually had RN 4.7 inch DD guns she has in the game), but in this case we're talking about an ahistorical set of guns, mountings and arrangement. 

 

14 minutes ago, aleksi111 said:

Ib4 Mogami gets same treatment.

 

Then we Get T7 &T8 155mm Mogami clones named Mikuma & Suzuya which differ in AA and with Tripple vs Quad Torpedo tube launcers

Fine with me if they do. 203mm Mogami is a perfect illustration of why normal CAs struggle to excel in comparison to CLs of the same tier, it would be interesting to see what they can to make it more worthwhile. 

 

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3 hours ago, invicta2012 said:

They should rename it as Z-23A, after her class (1936A). This ship has the same relationship to the actual Z-23 as KGV does to Monarch. Close but not the same. I know they've already done this gun thing once (Wakeful, which never actually had RN 4.7 inch DD guns she has in the game), but in this case we're talking about an ahistorical set of guns, mountings and arrangement. 

 

Fine with me if they do. 203mm Mogami is a perfect illustration of why normal CAs struggle to excel in comparison to CLs of the same tier, it would be interesting to see what they can to make it more worthwhile. 

 

Mogami still has the 155's as a option on 10,3 test server, so no such luck.

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