[TRYME] TridentOfNeptune Players 41 posts 12,343 battles Report post #1 Posted March 25, 2021 - Secondary builds dead (and need to sacrifice 11 points for them to still suck, laughable) - BBs specing concealment + fire prevention/superintended + dead eye to snipe not spoted (great design) - CAs specing out of concealment + these stupid skills to get HE dpm to snipe spoted (even greater design) - DDs standard torpedo build or nerfed gunboat build + concealment (mega rework done) And there you go, for diversity of builds And it's still not beeing adressed xD How long is it already? This incompetent mysterious balance "team" is making fun of themselves with every day that passes 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #2 Posted March 25, 2021 Agree - instead of fixing the skill rework disaster they remove historical hulls such as the Bayern A Hull. Yea why leave Immersion in the game if we can break it further? And anyone who signed into the game once could easily tell them why Dead Eye is a bad idea and how to fix it. What data are they collecting? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #3 Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, 1MajorKoenig said: And anyone who signed into the game once could easily tell them why Dead Eye is a bad idea and how to fix it. Anyone with even a vague knowledge of the game knew this skill was silly without even logging in. It shouldnt have needed any discussion or testing, its an idiotic skill and i dont know what they were thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #4 Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, 1MajorKoenig said: What data are they collecting? Probably the amount of money they are making from people reskilling their captains... once it dries up, make changes to rework so people have to start from scratch again 6 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #5 Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, 1MajorKoenig said: Agree - instead of fixing the skill rework disaster they remove historical hulls such as the Bayern A Hull. Yea why leave Immersion in the game if we can break it further? And anyone who signed into the game once could easily tell them why Dead Eye is a bad idea and how to fix it. What data are they collecting? Historical stuff is so 2015, the new "thing" is turning this game into a mix of AFK Arena and raid shadow legends. Besides, the new target audience is so clue less about the history of these ships, they don't care anyway, especially if it makes it easier for them to free XP their way to TX. What data? At this point, i think they are collecting data on how much tears they can farm, how many face palms tjeir decisions get and how much money rhey can milk off the casual windowlickers. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #6 Posted March 26, 2021 7 hours ago, DFens_666 said: Probably the amount of money they are making from people reskilling their captains... once it dries up, make changes to rework so people have to start from scratch again you write it as if it was a joke... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #7 Posted March 26, 2021 Vor 8 Stunden, Jethro_Grey sagte: Besides, the new target audience is so clue less about the history of these ships, they don't care anyway And then, when asked in their history exams which was the mightiest navy of the World Wars, they unflinchingly write down "Russia"... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #8 Posted March 26, 2021 Vor 14 Minuten, 1MajorKoenig sagte: you write it as if it was a joke... Sounds like the GW approach: "We change the rules every other year, so you can throw away your armies and buy new ones." 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaBubbles Players 1,553 posts 1,028 battles Report post #9 Posted March 26, 2021 There are a couple of things about the rework that I like -- using captains across multiple ships. Paying reset costs out of elite captain XP is also great. Like everything WG does, it could have been great. But instead, all my BBs use the same build, all my cruisers use the same build, all my DDs use the same build. I can't imagine what they were thinking when they approved radically reducing the number of possible builds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #10 Posted March 26, 2021 Don't forget ... we have some balanced ships incoming ..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #11 Posted March 26, 2021 Vor 24 Minuten, SodaBubbles sagte: I can't imagine what they were thinking when they approved radically reducing the number of possible builds. They were thinking: Let them get used to our next step: Auto-skilling. One build to rule them all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PASOK] Setterus Players 94 posts 10,687 battles Report post #12 Posted March 26, 2021 Not a single bb of mine have deadeye. Not a single cruiser have spotted build. All captains reseted before update kicks. Now I have a bunch of ships which acting exactly the same and just doing dailies. I left gw2 to come here before update due to many extra time(Tnx covid :/) and guess.... I'm back to my old game and left this in pc logging in playing a battle and g logging out. No interest at all unfortunately cause that so called build diversity,, is only for premium ships with one captain, but that requires me to give a lot of milk to do it. I was watching the game for years and know it was awesome but now is nothing else but a money sink. So no. I'll just keep it f2p for now. Remaining premium days 110ish and that's it. Feeling sorry for vets that have experience of what it was while see what it becomes. Guess I'm happy I manage to play 3 months of what it was at least.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,650 battles Report post #13 Posted March 26, 2021 33 minutes ago, SodaBubbles said: using captains across multiple ships. this is the only new thing, you could use ECXP for retraining/reset before the rework .... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TF57] Fatal_Ramses Players 1,300 posts Report post #14 Posted March 26, 2021 Havent played cruisers much lately, and I took a week long break from anything else than Big Hunt. Took out my radar neptune and tried to play safely. Played 5 matches and got oneshotted in 2 by BB sitting 15km away. Now i know why they are offering containers to cruiser players in ranked. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K_R_T] SirAmra Alpha Tester 1,075 posts Report post #15 Posted March 26, 2021 Biggest gripe with the rework is that an already passive playerbase got even more passive. And a team with competent players rolfstmp the other team more now, than before this rework. Just imagine how the REMFs would react if they changed the criteria of Deadeye so enemy ships must be within your own BB detection range to activate? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #16 Posted March 26, 2021 New World Of Warships player amazed by Dead Eye accuracy.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R_N_G] Bindolaf_Werebane Players 1,387 posts 12,045 battles Report post #17 Posted March 26, 2021 You people joke, but I wouldn't be surprised if a mobile version is in the works. Which would mean, simplify, simplify, simplify. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] geschlittert Players 874 posts 9,576 battles Report post #18 Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Hugh_Ruka said: this is the only new thing, you could use ECXP for retraining/reset before the rework .... And you cant even really use those captains (practically, in theory you could if you pay the retrain price every time you switch). The purpose behind this update was to increase the grind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Fat_Maniac [HOO] Players 2,337 posts 4,238 battles Report post #19 Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Bindolaf_Werebane said: You people joke, but I wouldn't be surprised if a mobile version is in the works. Which would mean, simplify, simplify, simplify. Could you imagine WG having to share some of it's profits to use the Apple Store to sell the app? I can't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R_N_G] Bindolaf_Werebane Players 1,387 posts 12,045 battles Report post #20 Posted March 26, 2021 56 minutes ago, Fat_Maniac said: Could you imagine WG having to share some of it's profits to use the Apple Store to sell the app? I can't. Just look at Genshin Impact and other, even worse gacha games. I sure can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCUMM] herrjott [SCUMM] Players 943 posts 22,067 battles Report post #21 Posted March 26, 2021 Vor 2 Stunden, Bindolaf_Werebane sagte: You people joke, but I wouldn't be surprised if a mobile version is in the works. Which would mean, simplify, simplify, simplify. Vor 1 Stunde, Fat_Maniac sagte: Could you imagine WG having to share some of it's profits to use the Apple Store to sell the app? I can't. I guess you missed something, it started 2018: https://eu.wargaming.net/en/games/wowsb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GEUS] TeaAndTorps Players 820 posts 2,680 battles Report post #22 Posted March 26, 2021 3 hours ago, MementoMori_6030 said: Sounds like the GW approach: "We change the rules every other year, so you can throw away your armies and buy new ones." And this is why I no longer give money or GW or WG. Businesses need to turn a profit, obviously, but there is a fine line between that and blatantly rinsing customers. A fine line that both companies mentioned have left waaaaay in their rear-view mirror at this point. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #23 Posted March 26, 2021 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NOCV] D4TC4 Players 81 posts 8,317 battles Report post #24 Posted March 26, 2021 the reason for the new captain skills to come; constantly getting players' money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NOCV] D4TC4 Players 81 posts 8,317 battles Report post #25 Posted March 26, 2021 13 dakika önce, _DeathWing_ dedi: Even if the deadaye is rework again, the t10s will give up from the camp ?? shimas will play again on 1 and 10 bb's will play on a and z again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites