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Hi everybody.
I started my games many years ago, the game was INCREDIBLE and as an addicted to 2ww BBs, I really enjoyed it!
Not a big player, less than an average player, no big clans, many games stopped for pc problems, many lost for my faults and if you check now my stats you'll see bad stats.
BTW I gained Yamato, the monster, Shima, the ninja, and ships like mighty Midway.

After a long stop of more than a year, I started again my journey on this game.
I found a nice coal surprise buying the Thunderer and for that ship and many mechanics problems I can say NOW, this game logic is broken as never was before.

If I meet small caliber guns (DDs, small CL ) with a Yamato, I assume I should tank small calibers, not to be SUNK by a spam series of shots from a Minotaur in the smoke neither from a single Halland HE.. this is RIDICULOUS.
Why I can over-pen with a 381mm a GK at 15km????
WHY a single 460mm direct hit over a dd is 1k????? really? are you kidding me???  you can jump out of the water every DD with just a single monster 460mm and is just 1k???

basically, 2 dd vs 2 BB are always winners without using torps... just with HE...
Why a big battleship can be sunk by a single CL spamming HE hidden by a hill?
Why with a Thunderer I can start 10 fires in 3 minutes of play?
Is this a game made for casual players waiting to push randomly over left click?

Why a Russian Slava seems to dodge shots perfectly on target every time?
Why a Halland has more AA power than a 300meters tier X BB?


So many questions about game logic, who give a big prize to spammers with DD and CL.

Sorry but I find this fabulous game BROKEN after a while.



 

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4 minutes ago, Ulysseita said:
  1. If I meet small caliber guns (DDs, small CL ) with a Yamato, I assume I should tank small calibers, not to be SUNK by a spam series of shots from a Minotaur in the smoke neither from a single Halland HE.. this is RIDICULOUS.
  2. Why I can over-pen with a 381mm a GK at 15km????
  3. WHY a single 460mm direct hit over a dd is 1k????? really? are you kidding me???  you can jump out of the water every DD with just a single monster 460mm and is just 1k???
  4. basically, 2 dd vs 2 BB are always winners without using torps... just with HE...
  5. Why a big battleship can be sunk by a single CL spamming HE hidden by a hill?
  6. Why with a Thunderer I can start 10 fires in 3 minutes of play?
  7. Is this a game made for casual players waiting to push randomly over left click?
  8. Why a Russian Slava seems to dodge shots perfectly on target every time?
  9. Why a Halland has more AA power than a 300meters tier X BB?
  1. That was already possible before your break. When you ignore them and do nothing, they will sink you after some time.
  2. When you send a shell through the smokestack, that can happen.
  3. When you can get overpens on a GK, then you surely can get overpens on a DD. Everything else would be illogical. Just choose the correct ammunition.
  4. Only against really bad BB.
  5. When the BB does nothing, that can happen. But ships have a rudder for a reason.
  6. That even bad players can feel good about themselves without doing much for their team.
  7. The game is for casual players. That is why it is arcade.
  8. Unlikely
  9. To give them a chance to survive vs CV without smoke.
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15 minutes ago, Ulysseita said:

If I meet small caliber guns (DDs, small CL ) with a Yamato, I assume I should tank small calibers, not to be SUNK by a spam series of shots from a Minotaur in the smoke neither from a single Halland HE.. this is RIDICULOUS.

And what other guns is a mino supposed to use to kill you? The 457s? It's called balance. You want your BB to be immortal don't you? Try playing said minotaur first.

 

15 minutes ago, Ulysseita said:

Why I can over-pen with a 381mm a GK at 15km????

Becausd you hit something other than the belt. Like a thin piece of tin on top of the smokestack or whatever, take a pick.

 

15 minutes ago, Ulysseita said:

WHY a single 460mm direct hit over a dd is 1k????? really? are you kidding me???  you can jump out of the water every DD with just a single monster 460mm and is just 1k???

Because balance and because overpens only deal 10% of the damage. You'd oneshot every DD otherwise.

 

15 minutes ago, Ulysseita said:

basically, 2 dd vs 2 BB are always winners without using torps... just with HE...

Only when the two BBs are complete potatoes.

 

15 minutes ago, Ulysseita said:

Why a big battleship can be sunk by a single CL spamming HE hidden by a hill?

For the same reason a cruiser can be blown up by a BB 24km away.

 

15 minutes ago, Ulysseita said:

Why with a Thunderer I can start 10 fires in 3 minutes of play?

Because the ship is overpowered.

 

15 minutes ago, Ulysseita said:

Is this a game made for casual players waiting to push randomly over left click?

Yes.

 

15 minutes ago, Ulysseita said:

Why a Russian Slava seems to dodge shots perfectly on target every time?

Because he's a good player and knows how to dodge.

 

15 minutes ago, Ulysseita said:

Why a Halland has more AA power than a 300meters tier X BB?

Because wg decided that that will be the paneu dd line flavour. And also because giving BBs halland's AA is a bad idea.

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So you are assuming that 

1-DD with a Tx BB..."When you ignore them and do nothing, they will sink you after some time." is not balance, is STAR WARS. :cap_haloween:

2-"When you send a shell through the smokestack, that can happen." LOL .. always happens... yes typical 381mm shell in the butter called GK-Yamato.. etc.... LOL

3-"When you can get overpens on a GK, then you surely can get overpens on a DD. Everything else would be illogical. Just choose the correct ammunition."

"Because balance and because overpens only deal 10% of the damage. You'd oneshot every DD otherwise."
this is ridiculous, not the game engine, the reply.
yes, SHOULD BE SINGLE SHOT of 9x460mm over a 12k DD... so you think is normal for a single dd fighting against a BB... using smoke and HE... LOL.

No more to say, that's enough to understand why they are losing people and many players think just to farm HP under a single stack.

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3 minutes ago, Ulysseita said:

Because balance and because overpens only deal 10% of the damage. You'd oneshot every DD otherwise."
this is ridiculous, not the game engine, the reply.
yes, SHOULD BE SINGLE SHOT of 9x460mm over a 12k DD... so you think is normal for a single dd fighting against a BB... using smoke and HE... LOL.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, DariusJacek said:

 

 

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wow, you must be the funny one! 

Ok, now I understand why so many complaints in the topics.... ;)

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14 minutes ago, DariusJacek said:

 

 

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Im missing the "Buff BBs" several times, otherwise ok id say :cap_haloween:

 

19 minutes ago, Ulysseita said:

yes, SHOULD BE SINGLE SHOT of 9x460mm over a 12k DD... so you think is normal for a single dd fighting against a BB... using smoke and HE... LOL.

 

Maybe if lineups would consist of

- 1BB

- 4-5 Cruisers

- 10-15 DDs

Then we can talk about it. The reality is

- 5 BBs / even 6 BBs lately EVERY GAME

- 1-3 Cruisers

- 3-4 DDs

- 1 CV

so... yeah. BBs are already over buffed and ruin this game. You can see what happens when BBs get everything: Its called Thunderer. Concealment like a Cruiser, maneuvrability better than some Cruisers, Guns like a BB, starts fires like no other ship in the game. Even BBs hate that ship :cap_fainting:

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1 minute ago, DFens_666 said:

 

Im missing the "Buff BBs" several times, otherwise ok id say :cap_haloween:

 

 

Maybe if lineups would consist of

- 1BB

- 4-5 Cruisers

- 10-15 DDs

Then we can talk about it. The reality is

- 5 BBs / even 6 BBs lately EVERY GAME

- 1-3 Cruisers

- 3-4 DDs

- 1 CV

so... yeah. BBs are already over buffed and ruin this game. You can see what happens when BBs get everything: Its called Thunderer. Concealment like a Cruiser, maneuvrability better than some Cruisers, Guns like a BB, starts fires like no other ship in the game. Even BBs hate that ship :cap_fainting:

This is a clever answer, 2bb every 4-6 dd... and the real BB power.
I remember a time where a single Yamato shot was DEATH for almost any ship... 

and yes, Thunderer is OOOOPPPP ;)

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The logic to all these unlogical things is game balance. If a Yamato could one-shot everything we'd soont have 12 v 12 Yamato games. 

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19 minutes ago, Ulysseita said:


I remember a time where a single Yamato shot was DEATH for almost any ship... 

and yes, Thunderer is OOOOPPPP ;)

 

It's called power creep. 

WG modus operandi.

 

Having said that Yama still can blap most ships except for Russian Glorious Peoples Navy. For DDs you need support or HE. 

I know, noob ammo of choice:cap_haloween:

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2 hours ago, DFens_666 said:

 

 

- 5 BBs / even 6 BBs lately EVERY GAME

- 1-3 Cruisers

- 3-4 DDs

- 1 CV

so... yeah. BBs are already over buffed and ruin this game. You can see what happens when BBs get everything: Its called Thunderer. Concealment like a Cruiser, maneuvrability better than some Cruisers, Guns like a BB, starts fires like no other ship in the game. Even BBs hate that ship :cap_fainting:

Yup. When you flood the game with CVs that make it difficult and unfun to play ships that need concealment to function properly, you push everyone into BBs, since concealment is less important for them and they have the HP to resist the idiotic CV plague. Once the BB population rises, the population of cruisers (except supercruisers and broken Russian cruisers) falls. Deadeye is just worsening these trends.

CVs also suck the life out of the DD population both by removing DD's one advantage, detection, and by causing DD players to switch to CVs. The kind of mediocre DD player who stayed back to torp safe from retaliation has been reborn as a mediocre CV player who stays in back to get even more damage at no risk to themselves.

WG has always wanted the bulk of players to be in BBs, judging from the decisions they make. I suspect premium BBs represent the bulk of premium ship sales, which is why they keep offering more and more BB premiums even though there are already too many.

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Vor 3 Stunden, Ulysseita sagte:


I remember a time where a single Yamato shot was DEATH for almost any ship... 

That was never in this game.

All your other points are crap, too. None of them happened during the last year, so you ought to have been annoyed by them 2 years ago already and should not have returned to the game.

Therefore the cry baby picture was not a joke but pictures the level on which you started this topic.

 

You should really check your attitude before you post here.

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5 hours ago, Ulysseita said:

So you are assuming that 

1-DD with a Tx BB..."When you ignore them and do nothing, they will sink you after some time." is not balance, is STAR WARS. :cap_haloween:

2-"When you send a shell through the smokestack, that can happen." LOL .. always happens... yes typical 381mm shell in the butter called GK-Yamato.. etc.... LOL

3-"When you can get overpens on a GK, then you surely can get overpens on a DD. Everything else would be illogical. Just choose the correct ammunition."

"Because balance and because overpens only deal 10% of the damage. You'd oneshot every DD otherwise."
this is ridiculous, not the game engine, the reply.
yes, SHOULD BE SINGLE SHOT of 9x460mm over a 12k DD... so you think is normal for a single dd fighting against a BB... using smoke and HE... LOL.

No more to say, that's enough to understand why they are losing people and many players think just to farm HP under a single stack.

;)

 

  1. It is called Arcade
  2. Then work on your aim
  3. When you do not know when to switch ammo, you have to live with that

And the player numbers are quite stable.

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8 hours ago, Ulysseita said:

No more to say, that's enough to understand why they are losing people and many players think just to farm HP under a single stack.

Lel, except wows isn't losing players and it's only noobs like you that think a single shell should kill a DD. I guess wg should make it then so a single torpedo can also kill a battleship.

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If you want to oneshot everything with your mighty Yamato, I want torpedo hits to basically put your ship out of commission the rest of the match, fires would reduce effectivness of whatever is near the fire because the crew is busy burning and damaged modules should take minutes to repair.

 

You can't skew the game so that it favours you without accepting some compromises. Accept it is a wonky arcade game and hope it gets balanced accordingly (emphasis on hope), or find something else.

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9 hours ago, Ulysseita said:

Yes, SHOULD BE SINGLE SHOT of 9x460mm over a 12k DD... so you think is normal for a single dd fighting against a BB... using smoke and HE... LOL. 

Mhm also 2 longlances to any part of the BB mean likely ticket to the davy jones, and we wont even go to the magnetic detonated deep diving US fish that broke the kiels of ships when they blew...

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9 hours ago, Ulysseita said:

So many questions about game logic

You gave the answer to yourself. Game-logic, or game-balance. For the same reason a sailing-trip with a Yamato costs the same as with a DD, even though it should be 300x as expensive.

 

Also if you are a "huge BB-fan" how comes you haven´t heard of the overpens Yamato did on American escort-carriers (which in-game would be T6)? Huuuge 460mm shells didn´t find enough tin to arm. Now how should they arm on destroyers with even less tin? Read up how many times BBs got destroyed by DDs or even tiny torpedo-boats - and how many (or few) times BBs managed to sink a DD.

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An angled bow is what you sell
You promise me citadels, then put me through hell
HE of love got a fire on me
When passion's a prison, you can't WSAD free

 

Oh, you're a loaded gun, yeah
Oh, there's nowhere to run
No one can save me
The damage is done

 

Shot through the stacks 

And your to blame

You give BB's a bad name

 

Jon BB Jovi (maybe) 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

An angled bow is what you sell
You promise me citadels, then put me through hell
HE of love got a fire on me
When passion's a prison, you can't WSAD free

 

Oh, you're a loaded gun, yeah
Oh, there's nowhere to run
No one can save me
The damage is done

 

Shot through the stacks 

And your to blame

You give BB's a bad name

 

Jon BB Jovi (maybe) 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can you make a msuic to this? Maby Titinic soundtrack? 

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6 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

An angled bow is what you sell
You promise me citadels, then put me through hell
HE of love got a fire on me
When passion's a prison, you can't WSAD free

 

Oh, you're a loaded gun, yeah
Oh, there's nowhere to run
No one can save me
The damage is done

 

Shot through the stacks 

And your to blame

You give BB's a bad name

 

Jon BB Jovi (maybe) 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DAMN I SANG THROUGH IT!!!

 

2 minutes ago, Tanaka_15 said:

Can you make a msuic to this? Maby Titinic soundtrack? 

Thats Bloody "You give love a bad name" by JBJovi!!

It already has music! 

 

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10 hours ago, Ulysseita said:

Hi everybody.
I started my games many years ago, the game was INCREDIBLE and as an addicted to 2ww BBs, I really enjoyed it!
Not a big player, less than an average player, no big clans, many games stopped for pc problems, many lost for my faults and if you check now my stats you'll see bad stats.
BTW I gained Yamato, the monster, Shima, the ninja, and ships like mighty Midway.

After a long stop of more than a year, I started again my journey on this game.
I found a nice coal surprise buying the Thunderer and for that ship and many mechanics problems I can say NOW, this game logic is broken as never was before.

If I meet small caliber guns (DDs, small CL ) with a Yamato, I assume I should tank small calibers, not to be SUNK by a spam series of shots from a Minotaur in the smoke neither from a single Halland HE.. this is RIDICULOUS.
Why I can over-pen with a 381mm a GK at 15km????
WHY a single 460mm direct hit over a dd is 1k????? really? are you kidding me???  you can jump out of the water every DD with just a single monster 460mm and is just 1k???

basically, 2 dd vs 2 BB are always winners without using torps... just with HE...
Why a big battleship can be sunk by a single CL spamming HE hidden by a hill?
Why with a Thunderer I can start 10 fires in 3 minutes of play?
Is this a game made for casual players waiting to push randomly over left click?

Why a Russian Slava seems to dodge shots perfectly on target every time?
Why a Halland has more AA power than a 300meters tier X BB?


So many questions about game logic, who give a big prize to spammers with DD and CL.

Sorry but I find this fabulous game BROKEN after a while.



 

This is Game, not an arcade simulator, for that matter, if you wanted this as a simulator, then you would have to play with a BB that takes no dmg sure, but hits 1 shell per 3 volleys at 20km so yeah

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Just Google USS Johnston..The fletcher class DD was hit by multiple Kongo, Yamato and Cruiser shells and didn't explode outright. 

 

It took  3 hits by 356 mm main gun shells from the Kongo and didn't sink. The reason is because those shells over penetrated.

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