Developer Bulletin for Update 0.10.3

[YabbaCoe]

Před 1 minutou AkainuTaisho řekl/a:

Then why name them after the two major coalitions that fought WW2, with ships that served in WW2? And why does the devblog say 'inspired by real-world naval battles'? Any why are the ships divided into teams according to their historical loyalty? Come on, man. Try harder. 

 

Also, two games is a rather limited sample size, wouldn't you agree? Surely you're not going to try the 'I tried and it didn't happen so it's ok' argument, arent' you? 

 

 

So it can be also understood as "what if" battles, when WW2 wouldn't end in 1945. Idea behind this is inspired by real naval battles. Inspired. Those are not 100% historical battles, they never were meant like that.

Maybe in future we can have something like this, if this will work well enough. Something like Pacific theatre with only US vs JAP ships, or ships from other nations, that were there at the time. Or Atlantic battles. Who knows.

 

It was one of the popular suggestions to have something for real ships, those that were built, not the paper ships.

Also what should be the proper name of those battles? Real-world naval battles inspired by historical participation of nation on Axis or Allied side with possible continuation for future played with only realistically built ships?

 

Two games are not enough, I know. I just shared by personal experience I got during today. I wanted to mention, it is possible to beat radar team, as I was lucky to do that today.

[CensorMeDaddyWG]

21 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

So it can be also understood as "what if" battles, when WW2 wouldn't end in 1945. Idea behind this is inspired by real naval battles. Inspired. Those are not 100% historical battles, they never were meant like that.

Maybe in future we can have something like this, if this will work well enough. Something like Pacific theatre with only US vs JAP ships, or ships from other nations, that were there at the time. Or Atlantic battles. Who knows.

 

It was one of the popular suggestions to have something for real ships, those that were built, not the paper ships.

Also what should be the proper name of those battles? Real-world naval battles inspired by historical participation of nation on Axis or Allied side with possible continuation for future played with only realistically built ships?

 

Two games are not enough, I know. I just shared by personal experience I got during today. I wanted to mention, it is possible to beat radar team, as I was lucky to do that today.

 

Nobody ever said it was impossible, at least not unironically. But the game mode is incredibly heavily skewered towards the 'Allies' side. If we assume equal skill distribution among the teams (which will never happen, I know) then the game mode favors the Allies, heavily. 

 

It was a popular suggestion to have something for real ships. Okay. I get that. Is that a more popular suggestion than fixing consumable distribution and balancing ships, though? Fix the aiming bug of shots falling short? 

 

This game mode is a farce. Pure and simple. It is like the pretty girls on the stage of magician shows. It's meant to distract. The game mode is 'random battles with real ships at Tier VIII.' And that's it. The maps are copied from ranked. It's a minimal effort to make it seem that you're adding something worthwhile to the game. Smoke and mirrors, and nothing else. 

[Gwynbleidd11]

What are you all crying here? Like radars are winning games here.... It's not like that and I'm pretty sure winrates of both sides will be similar. Mode is interesting, just wondering if there will be missions with good rewards..

 

Next update seem svery promising. Awards every day just for launching game with nice stuff like Supercontainers. Removed hulls for most painfull to grind ships. Nice

 

Hovewer, new dockyard seems less interesting. No steel for last stages? There are lower tier premium at mid stage as in previous dockyards?

 

 

[captain_Kaloyan]

So... why are Z-23's 150mm guns removed?

[ColonelPete]

32 minutes ago, captain_Kaloyan said:

So... why are Z-23's 150mm guns removed?

That would be bad.

[Klopirat]

Vor 1 Stunde, captain_Kaloyan sagte:

So... why are Z-23's 150mm guns removed?

I guess because the 150mm guns are now "reserved" for the new German DDs, while the old line keeps the 128mm guns

[CaptainKreutzer]

@YabbaCoe About Z23, Can WG rename her to something else? Because it's not Z23 or Type 1936 A class DD anymore, It will be very weird to see Z23 name while ship doesn't even look like Z23 anymore.

[1MajorKoenig]

On 3/26/2021 at 4:40 PM, YabbaCoe said:

And this information is not true. We haven't published anything about reintroducing them as new ships.

If the historical Bayern gets reintroduced separately balanced as a new entity — and be it a premium — that would be perfectly fine. Unless it takes as long as for Ashitaka. But just taking her away is very upsetting.

[Avantul]

How about more tikets ? 7 are not enough

[ColonelPete]

14 minutes ago, Avantul said:

How about more tikets ? 7 are not enough

You can write as many tickets as you want.

And when you writing about reports, you can have more, when you are more helpful in game.

[Zemeritt]

On 3/27/2021 at 2:05 PM, 1MajorKoenig said:

If the historical Bayern gets reintroduced separately balanced as a new entity — and be it a premium — that would be perfectly fine. Unless it takes as long as for Ashitaka. But just taking her away is very upsetting.

 

Preferential MM. WG has to open that can in this game soon enough to sell LT prems

[1MajorKoenig]

21 minutes ago, Zemeritt said:

 

Preferential MM. WG has to open that can in this game soon enough to sell LT prems

Na - the holy Matchmaker will not allow that. 
 

And it doesn’t need to be that - either give her the historical reload of 23 sec to make up for the lack of AA, give her the accurate secondary gimmick and such or even put her to T5 - there are plenty of options what to do with such ships. WG stated that they think the stock hull is inferior so a buffed version separate would be a good solution 

[Isoruku_Yamamoto]

While i like the current update schedule in some aspects, in many ways nothing new is added.

A commander skill rework- honestly nothing more than an inconvenience, at best, some extra tech trees, a minor game mode.

We need better things imo- but that can be just my perspective.

A true overhaul for Ranked, changes to game modes, operations, stuff like that.

 

[YabbaCoe]

V 27. 3. 2021 v 11:23 captain_Kaloyan řekl/a:

So... why are Z-23's 150mm guns removed?

The change would emphasize the differences between the new and old branches of German DDs. The old branch will remain with 128-mm guns, the new one will have 150-mm guns.

 

V 27. 3. 2021 v 13:37 CaptainKreutzer řekl/a:

@YabbaCoe About Z23, Can WG rename her to something else? Because it's not Z23 or Type 1936 A class DD anymore, It will be very weird to see Z23 name while ship doesn't even look like Z23 anymore.

It doesn't seems to be likely. But still I can ask about that. I am not an expert for German DDs, but which name she should have after those changes, according to you?

[ColonelPete]

20 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

The change would emphasize the differences between the new and old branches of German DDs. The old branch will remain with 128-mm guns, the new one will have 150-mm guns.

But that was the historical setup. Now I have to play with fantasy ships with magic guns, when I want to play with a 150mm gun DD.

I like the 150mm version of Z-23 and Geade.

[YabbaCoe]

Před 16 minutami ColonelPete řekl/a:

But that was the historical setup. Now I have to play with fantasy ships with magic guns, when I want to play with a 150mm gun DD.

I like the 150mm version of Z-23 and Geade.

I know, and I also feel sorry for that. But unfortunately sometimes 100% historicity has to go away to be able to balance those ships. Probably only option to leave her historical would be to transform her into new line and make a new ship for previous line. But this would create a mess in order of compensations, commander retraining etc.

[ColonelPete]

5 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

I know, and I also feel sorry for that. But unfortunately sometimes 100% historicity has to go away to be able to balance those ships. Probably only option to leave her historical would be to transform her into new line and make a new ship for previous line. But this would create a mess in order of compensations, commander retraining etc.

Yes, she is a bit weak.

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But I do not see how a removal of the 150mm guns fixes that. You could just improve the reload of her guns/torps or increase the damage/range of the torps.

[CaptainKreutzer]

52 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

It doesn't seems to be likely. But still I can ask about that. I am not an expert for German DDs, but which name she should have after those changes, according to you?

I don't know, Maybe one of the Z1 class names such as Georg Thiele, Max Schultz since they sunk early and this new Z23 looks like a later war vessel that named after one of those DDs again. I'm not sure developers can find more names.

 

German Destroyers was mostly named after German navy personnel killed in World War I.

[BruceRKF]

1 hour ago, YabbaCoe said:

I know, and I also feel sorry for that. But unfortunately sometimes 100% historicity has to go away to be able to balance those ships. Probably only option to leave her historical would be to transform her into new line and make a new ship for previous line. But this would create a mess in order of compensations, commander retraining etc.

Z-23 in the new line, then put a copy of Z-35 called Z-36 in her place with modified stats. Solved and historical ships in both lines.

[YabbaCoe]

Před 1 hodinou ColonelPete řekl/a:

Yes, she is a bit weak.

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But I do not see how a removal of the 150mm guns fixes that. You could just improve the reload of her guns/torps or increase the damage/range of the torps.

When mounting B hull the ship will have 5х128mm guns instead of 4х128. (bow turret will become double-gunned). It is not much, though.

 

Před 38 minutami CaptainKreutzer řekl/a:

I don't know, Maybe one of the Z1 class names such as Georg Thiele, Max Schultz since they sunk early and this new Z23 looks like a later war vessel that named after one of those DDs again. I'm not sure developers can find more names.

 

German Destroyers was mostly named after German navy personnel killed in World War I.

 

Před 16 minutami BruceRKF řekl/a:

Z-23 in the new line, then put a copy of Z-35 called Z-36 in her place with modified stats. Solved and historical ships in both lines.

Thank you for your suggestion. I will include that in collected feedback

[captain_Kaloyan]

At worst, I wouldn't mind if Z23 gets the Kirov/Moskva treatment if it would be this difficult to balance her into the new line or sth else. I just really like her the way she is. 

[CallicoJackRackham]

Will you guys also finally add Swedish voiceovers so my Halland no longer sounds like it is under the command of the royal navy?

[YabbaCoe]

Před 17 hodinami CallicoJackRackham řekl/a:

Will you guys also finally add Swedish voiceovers so my Halland no longer sounds like it is under the command of the royal navy?

Good point. I will ask for this.

[x_scheer109_x]

On 3/29/2021 at 2:13 PM, YabbaCoe said:

When mounting B hull the ship will have 5х128mm guns instead of 4х128. (bow turret will become double-gunned). It is not much, though.

Then at least replace the current 128 mm twin turret with that of the Hemelin. This is optically identical to the 150mm turret of the Z-23. Although I never understood why it had to be a Type 1936 destroyer for the DD Split when you could have simply moved the Z-23 into the new branch.

[YabbaCoe]

Před 20 hodinami x_scheer109_x řekl/a:

Then at least replace the current 128 mm twin turret with that of the Hemelin. This is optically identical to the 150mm turret of the Z-23. Although I never understood why it had to be a Type 1936 destroyer for the DD Split when you could have simply moved the Z-23 into the new branch.

Most likely not to do yet anothe big reshuffle, as we did in past. Also you might remember, which problems that brought.