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Now I am not known for being a fan of DDs. I am a cruiser player and nothing makes my life hell more then DD's on my team not doing some pretty basic things. That said, today I logged in saw one of my directives was for citadels and torp hits and I opted to do some DD play. Im ok with the halland and can hold my own pretty nicely in the gearing and other hybrids, but one dd I tend to avoid and lament when they are on my team is the Shimakaze. Rather then continue to let this further my disdain for the ship and most torp slingers in general I decided to take it out. 2 things happened. 1 I had a great game even though we lost, 144k with 8 torp hits 3 kills including a halland dev strike, and 2. I got a taste of my own medicine. In the match I capped, I spotted I hit f3 on dds I was spotting yet I got 0 support fire from the closest cruiser a smolensk. As some one with 636 games in a smolensk this kind of annoyed me, but there was also 2 bbs in range and the dd was a french which tends to be a pain to hit, still an attempt would have been nice. So french dd runs out and I cap only to notice my rpf warning of another close by ship, it was a shimakaze. We solo take the cap land a torp on a bb move to a kill a halland, turn a conq with our torps so he eats like 4 from our halland, kill a montana and a yamato before dying to combine fire from a stalingrad and and a french dd. All in all a decent battle. Then I see chat.

 

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When I am in a cruiser I tend to be super critical of dd play. I can not shoot what I can not see, most of the time I also tend to follow our dds because I know when they do spot something being close tends to work out better for me, most of the time. So when this player in a smolensk decides to share their tactical genius I stopped to reflect on it. So I went back watched the replay, I see a few minor mistakes, like 4, but nothing overly major I was keeping ships spotted for our team to engage while doing damage, capping, and killing not only bbs, but a dd too.

 

Then I rewatch the replay again this time detaching the camera from me and following the ever opinionated Smolensk. What do I see. Well for starters when I was hitting f3 on dds, he just looked at them. Even though they had the cover of smoke and could have done some damage they instead focused on BBS. Another instance a zao was taking fire from one of their smolensk and rather then help him even though both he and I were hitting f3 he literally just looked at it and didn't fire while running away. To be fair though there were 3 bbs that had angles on him and could have ruined his day, however about a minute later he goes full open water gun boat on a Montana. Now what is funny is I ended up killing this Montana as the Smolensk pulled behind cover only to sail into the waiting guns of a French dd. Remember when I said he didnt bother shooting at a dd I was hitting f3 on, yep that one. The french dd makes a gunner pass as he is entering into cover and the smolensk doesnt get a shot of. Rather then reaquire as they come from behind cover he turns his guns 180 degree away from the dd and then proceeds to sail away while the french dd just lays into him with a a non stop barage of fire. When he did shoot at it...well to say it was short would be an understatement and also a tad understandable as french dds are kind of annoying to hit. Especially when you do not practice or make dds a priority.

 

He ends up complaining in chat about dds being "idiots" then proceeds to open water a Stalingrad while angling away. For those of you who do not know this Angling in a Smolensk against cruiser or bb fire is inherently a bad idea as the greater the angle the more likely you are to arm the shell and take penetrations and or citadels, you could argue that you were trying to mitigate the impacts by weaving but that is no what they were doing. Stalingrad fires 2 salvos killing the  smolensk with a multi citadel on the 2nd. So he dies and continues to call out our teams dds, including me. Then it comes down to our last ship, Halland who had a pretty awesome game as they were able to secure 3 kills and have something like 1586 bxp getting first on the score board at the end of the match, and in open channel chat our Smolensk gives away the dds position. To say this was scummy is an understatement. End of the match I place second with a bxp total of 1536 to which I was ok with, but the match in general forced me into some self reflection.

 

So what did I learn? I learned that maybe I should be less harsh about how dds perform, though I still feel the majority can put in more effort. I learned that people sharing an opinion of how some one else plays tends to be a great indicator of just how bad of a player they are. I also learned that I should have selected the mute chat option in settings.

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Long story. ;) 

But in the end its a double edged sword: 

You won't read the potatoes raging at you out of pure ignorance, but you'll also keep yourself from having a teammate that does try to cooperate via chat as well as funny banter going on. 

 

And honestly, if potatoes blaming teammates for their own inadequacies triggers you that much, I wonder how you made it to 15k battles (not meant as an insult, just genuine amazement). This happens almost every lost ranked match. It's never the fault of the backline dmg farmer but always the fault of the dd. Whatever, potatoes gonna potate. :) 

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There are plenty of people in this game who believe they are the reincarnation of Admiral Nelson,  and if only everyone else does what that one person says then the battle will be a win. 
 

Personally I wouldn’t turn of chat just because of the actions of a minority of loud mouths it’s still handy when dealing with most normal people. 
 

Still seeing as the person in question revealed your position in open chat I hope you have forwarded the issue to support to take “appropriate action”.

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22 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Long story. ;) 

But in the end its a double edged sword: 

You won't read the potatoes raging at you out of pure ignorance, but you'll also keep yourself from having a teammate that does try to cooperate via chat as well as funny banter going on. 

 

And honestly, if potatoes blaming teammates for their own inadequacies triggers you that much, I wonder how you made it to 15k battles (not meant as an insult, just genuine amazement). This happens almost every lost ranked match. It's never the fault of the backline dmg farmer but always the fault of the dd. Whatever, potatoes gonna potate. :) 

It has been a cumulative sorta thing. This was not even the worst I have seen, just the straw that broke the camels back.

 

What's worse is I looked up the guys profile. 24k matches I wont say the win rate because that would be stat shaming but this quote sums it up nicely

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17 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said:

There are plenty of people in this game who believe they are the reincarnation of Admiral Nelson,  and if only everyone else does what that one person says then the battle will be a win. 
 

Personally I wouldn’t turn of chat just because of the actions of a minority of loud mouths it’s still handy when dealing with most normal people. 
 

Still seeing as the person in question revealed your position in open chat I hope you have forwarded the issue to support to take “appropriate action”.

not my position but the halland and yeah I have. 

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9 minutes ago, The_Chiv said:

but this quote sums it up nicely

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Get MM. 

 

Then you would have known that that player has over 14000 games and can't even brake 50%. He is shocking. 

 

He is one these people in life where his his own mind thinks one thing but his actual ability is something completely special. He blames others for his own faililures and doesn't take responsibly for his own short comings. 

 

I wouldnt listen to a single thing the kid says. 

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5 minutes ago, Redcap375 said:

Get MM. 

 

Then you would have known that that player has over 14000 games and can't even brake 50%. He is shocking. 

 

He is one these people in life where his his own mind thinks one thing but his actual ability is something completely special. He blames others for his own faililures and doesn't take responsibly for his own short comings. 

 

I wouldnt listen to a single thing the kid says. 

I don't understand ... how would MM help him with a player that is not up to par and at the end turned out to be a scumbag ? MM won't make him switch to another game and it won't prevent other similar players to enter in the same battle.

 

The only thing MM would accomplish is to maybe make him give up before the match even properly starts ....

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Dude idk what you want. The guy gave you a perfect excuse to report him for chat abuse and it wasn't even a fake report, so he is heading for a genuine chat ban which is one of the only punishments WG ever deals out at all. And the only punishment that you can hope to even contribute to bringing about yourself, this side of annihilating the dude, should you meet him on the enemy team by chance, or griefing, which is illegal (except if you're a CV.)

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44 minutes ago, The_Chiv said:

It has been a cumulative sorta thing. This was not even the worst I have seen, just the straw that broke the camels back

To give you an example. During the last two new ranked seasons I've been called everything ranging from cheater or camper to noob by a wide variety of individuals. But I'll let my ranked results speak for themselves. I know what I am doing, so if someone disagrees on how I am doing things then good for them. 

 

Haters gonna hate. Most of the time they haven't got the slightest idea how to play themselves. When you start to embrace these kind of "compliments" or fanmail as El2azer would say, they only bring joy instead of grief. 

 

At the moment getting toxic comments is almost an integral part of playing wows and its up to us to not letting them "win" by being affected whatsoever by such comments. Even if some super unicum goes on a rant in chat. So what? I've even done so myself at times. I won't deny it. Often to just let go some of my frustration and not to make the other players feel bad. Those other players will likely never change anyway. 

 

My feeling when I explain how did what I did to a novice player I killed and they say: "STFU, you're obviously cheating":

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Nobody should be angry at anyone that they don't know the game well or that they can't play well.
But it's not nice to be unfair to those who play recklessly and play for a team.
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Stupidity in play and stupidity in chat seem misteryously correlated :Smile_trollface:

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27 minutes ago, D4TC4 said:

Nobody should be angry at anyone that they don't know the game well or that they can't play well.
But it's not nice to be unfair to those who play recklessly and play for a team.

The thing is we had 4 dds 1 halland, 1 daring, 1 shim, 1 Coal french dd. They had an identical make up on their team. Our teams dds took out half theirs pretty quickly and ended up getting 7 out of 9 kills. Mean while our cruisers and bbs could do very little. We spotted, we capped, we engaged other dds. What else were we to do? 

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1 minute ago, The_Chiv said:

The thing is we had 4 dds 1 halland, 1 daring, 1 shim, 1 Coal french dd. They had an identical make up on their team. Our teams dds took out half theirs pretty quickly and ended up getting 7 out of 9 kills. Mean while our cruisers and bbs could do very little. We spotted, we capped, we engaged other dds. What else were we to do? 

We have thread for that: carry harder :cap_haloween:

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1 minute ago, Camperdown said:

We have thread for that: carry harder :cap_haloween:

yeah I know but I didnt want to get gigged for shaming by posting replay, and I sorta jumped instantly after battle into replay before ss the results

 

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Generally, the more a player types in chat, the less he has contributed to the actual battle. Ignore and move on.

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21 minutes ago, The_Chiv said:

The thing is we had 4 dds 1 halland, 1 daring, 1 shim, 1 Coal french dd. They had an identical make up on their team. Our teams dds took out half theirs pretty quickly and ended up getting 7 out of 9 kills. Mean while our cruisers and bbs could do very little. We spotted, we capped, we engaged other dds. What else were we to do? 

Welcome to the world of DD players. Get bitched by leeches who consider you to be their personal assistent.

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Well I had 3 idiots in my team in Ranked who are more skilled in trolling and laughing in chat than game itself.

When I saw with what kind of idiots im playing with I just parked my BB behind island and exit to Port. F* them.

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9 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said:

Well I had 3 idiots in my team in Ranked who are more skilled in trolling and laughing in chat than game itself.

When I saw with what kind of idiots im playing with I just parked my BB behind island and exit to Port. F* them.

I respectfully disagree with your decision to return to port. Never abandon your team.

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Had a guy going through the effort to pm me after battle saying:" You son of a b****, tell gg to your own team. No need to rub it in. ..." And blaaaaah. So yeah, the polite gg sure was me flexing on his sorry rear. ... the black list exists for a reason. 

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50 minutes ago, Camperdown said:

I respectfully disagree with your decision to return to port. Never abandon your team.

If your team insult you (not 1 but 3 of them) just because you use F command and try to navigate them and they react on that with ''shut up idiot'' every single time, you will return with full right in Port for sure.

I did not abandon team, I only abandon rtards.

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Chat is an unending source of joy.

How about this guy in his Leningrad?

 

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Apparently his first ever battle on her, finds out she has sh%t concealment, so he sailed to A8 and hugged the border doing nothing.

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24 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said:

If your team insult you (not 1 but 3 of them) just because you use F command and try to navigate them and they react on that with ''shut up idiot'' every single time, you will return with full right in Port for sure.

I did not abandon team, I only abandon rtards.

And the other 3? I assume they were suffering from said 3 rtards too. 

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2 minutes ago, Camperdown said:

And the other 3? I assume they were suffering from said 3 rtards too. 

No, they were just playing bad, like entire ''team''

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4 hours ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Long story. ;) 

But in the end its a double edged sword: 

You won't read the potatoes raging at you out of pure ignorance, but you'll also keep yourself from having a teammate that does try to cooperate via chat as well as funny banter going on. 

 

And honestly, if potatoes blaming teammates for their own inadequacies triggers you that much, I wonder how you made it to 15k battles (not meant as an insult, just genuine amazement). This happens almost every lost ranked match. It's never the fault of the backline dmg farmer but always the fault of the dd. Whatever, potatoes gonna potate. :) 

Couldn't agree with Garrus more.

If you are THAT much dependant on your 'safeplace' that you can't handle morons petty insults, then this game is not for you.

 

I prefert to just laugh at insults thrown at me....try it it, might work.

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2 hours ago, Europizza said:

Welcome to the world of DD players. Get bitched by leeches who consider you to be their personal assistent.

That's the same whatever you play. 

 

Everyone wants you to "perform" (or not-perform) in THEIR advantage. 

And they do not care if you or the team would profit from any other action.

 They also assume you do not have a brain, or at least that theirs is much superior. 

Which is more often than not, a buit bed side the truth. 

 

@The_Chiv I just blacklist those guys and never hear from them again. 

Right-click on the team board, select "blacklist". And he cannot send you any unwanted comments after the game either. 

Musty say, sometimes I just feed them torpedoes too. Just to make sure they have a brain-pop. :Smile_trollface:

 

 

 

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