[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #1 Posted March 21, 2021 You can do this wargaming, you would not be nerfing a specific premium ship (that's single handedly ruining T10 for everyone) it's a general change to the game. Spoiler 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #2 Posted March 21, 2021 53 minutes ago, NikolayKuznetsov said: You can do this wargaming, you would not be nerfing a specific premium ship (that's single handedly ruining T10 for everyone) it's a general change to the game. Reveal hidden contents Wont stop thunderer and conq setting fires every single salvo. Unfortunately. The british bb line was a very stupid and ill thought out idea. I dont know how they justified to themselves removing HE from british light cruiser line to combat fire spam, then create the british bb line the smolensk and the colbert... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #3 Posted March 21, 2021 29 minutes ago, JohnMac79 said: Wont stop thunderer and conq setting fires every single salvo. Unfortunately. Thunderer? Who said anything about Thunderer. I wasn't talking about thunderer General change in game mechanics hihi Spoiler Shut up you're ruining it 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] ThePurpleSmurf Players 2,554 posts Report post #4 Posted March 21, 2021 Just bring back double and triple CV games at TX, this will take care of the HE spammers and result in a much more balanced gaming experience for everyone 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-DGH-] xe_N_on [-DGH-] Players 525 posts 3,591 battles Report post #5 Posted March 21, 2021 No, just introduce submarines, I'm sure that's the solution for everything! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,187 battles Report post #6 Posted March 21, 2021 29 minutes ago, xe_N_on said: No, just introduce submarines, I'm sure that's the solution for everything! Yeah I think this is what's going to happen. And it can happen after the German DDs.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dCK_Ad_Hominem Players 1,176 posts 5,859 battles Report post #7 Posted March 21, 2021 I would advocate 20% instead of 40. This way the t10 reduction puts it at 10% maximum chance. This is enough for high rate of fire ships to not be that much affected, but will reduce the burst chance sufficiently. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF] Cyclops_ Players 2,108 posts 36,213 battles Report post #8 Posted March 21, 2021 And while we are at it , lets remove SAP and lesson the the chance of AP shells arming. Yes it is annoying but here I am in my little DD and all I have is my 100mm pom pom guns, may be we should increase the fire chance for DD if not they might as well just be removed from the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] EnacheV Players 146 posts 2,112 battles Report post #9 Posted March 21, 2021 translation : my op ship has only 1 counter please remove it it hurts!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LA_FR] Eikkuu Players 317 posts 6,313 battles Report post #10 Posted March 21, 2021 Il y a 6 heures, NikolayKuznetsov a dit : You can do this wargaming, you would not be nerfing a specific premium ship (that's single handedly ruining T10 for everyone) it's a general change to the game. Masquer du contenu Yes sure l'm agree with this nerf of thuz unknow T10 premium and the Conqueror. I'm agree with changing all BBs are camping too ! 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaBubbles Players 1,553 posts 1,028 battles Report post #11 Posted March 21, 2021 3 hours ago, xe_N_on said: No, just introduce submarines, I'm sure that's the solution for everything! Yes, that will keep the BB HE spammers camping even further back, out of range! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] EnacheV Players 146 posts 2,112 battles Report post #12 Posted March 21, 2021 its amazing how 4s loading cruiser players are complaning about bb's staying back what would you want them to do ? come close so they get deleted in 30 seconds from a smoke cloud ? lol this gameplay is the result of WG adding absurd dpm small boats to the game 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #13 Posted March 21, 2021 7 hours ago, NikolayKuznetsov said: You can do this wargaming, you would not be nerfing a specific premium ship (that's single handedly ruining T10 for everyone) it's a general change to the game. Reveal hidden contents I vote - remove HE from all BBs and give them short fused AP instead and long fused AP as no2 choice or if they absolutely have to have the HE then at least have all their HE shells capped to 1% fire chance instead... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GTPF] Communist_Loli Players 438 posts 8,076 battles Report post #14 Posted March 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, EnacheV said: its amazing how 4s loading cruiser players are complaning about bb's staying back what would you want them to do ? come close so they get deleted in 30 seconds from a smoke cloud ? lol this gameplay is the result of WG adding absurd dpm small boats to the game The same logic applies to why cruisers hide in smoke/islands in the first place. What would you want them to do? Go out into the open and get one shot from overmatching BB's? lol 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #15 Posted March 21, 2021 Just now, EnacheV said: its amazing how 4s loading cruiser players are complaning about bb's staying back what would you want them to do ? come close so they get deleted in 30 seconds from a smoke cloud ? lol this gameplay is the result of WG adding absurd dpm small boats to the game Imagine BBs being so cuddled, that they have no intention to learn anything which would prevent them to "melt" by a Cruiser... yeah, lets cuddle them even more. OMG i pushed into 2 Smolensk' while a CV was spotting me, AND THEY BOTH DIED! Man these ships are so OP, BBs just melt in 10 secs, NUTTIN YA CAN DO MAN! Poor BBs, need buffz 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] EnacheV Players 146 posts 2,112 battles Report post #16 Posted March 21, 2021 Just now, Communist_Loli said: The same logic applies to why cruisers hide in smoke/islands. What would you want them to do? Go out into the open and get one shot from overmatching BB's? lol yes, thats also true at high tiers attack is too big and defence too small so this game play results 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #17 Posted March 21, 2021 7 hours ago, NikolayKuznetsov said: You can do this wargaming, you would not be nerfing a specific premium ship (that's single handedly ruining T10 for everyone) it's a general change to the game. Hide contents While removing HE shells from BB primary guns (and leave them on secondary guns) would be the obvious fix to this mess they created. However - WG has a solid track record of not fixing stuff but making it worse/less bad by new introducing new problems. Hence here is my suggestion: remove AA guns from all British BBs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GTPF] Communist_Loli Players 438 posts 8,076 battles Report post #18 Posted March 21, 2021 1 minute ago, 1MajorKoenig said: While removing HE shells from BB primary guns (and leave them on secondary guns) would be the obvious fix to this mess they created. However - WG has a solid track record of not fixing stuff but making it worse/less bad by new introducing new problems. Hence here is my suggestion: remove AA guns from all British BBs Wait.....are you saying BBs had AA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #19 Posted March 21, 2021 6 hours ago, NikolayKuznetsov said: Thunderer? Who said anything about Thunderer. I wasn't talking about thunderer General change in game mechanics hihi I would be happy with this - although I think the cap should be 45%. Ships like Vermont (48%), Kremlin (45%) and Republique (48%) aren't infamous firebugs and don't really need to be nerfed because of Thudnerer. That ship would still have lots going for it with a capped fire chance, just like Smolensk still does post-nerf, it just wouldn't be completely and horribly toxic anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #20 Posted March 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, invicta2012 said: I would be happy with this - although I think the cap should be 45%. Ships like Vermont (48%), Kremlin (45%) and Republique (48%) aren't infamous firebugs and don't really need to be nerfed because of Thudnerer. That ship would still have lots going for it with a capped fire chance, just like Smolensk still does post-nerf, it just wouldn't be completely and horribly toxic anymore. I would limit fire chance to 33% at max and remove the stupid alpha damage for HE shells. HE shells are stupidly effective - while that may be ok for Cruisers and small guns from a gameplay perspective it is uncalled for Battleships 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] EnacheV Players 146 posts 2,112 battles Report post #21 Posted March 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said: I would limit fire chance to 33% at max and remove the stupid alpha damage for HE shells. HE shells are stupidly effective - while that may be ok for Cruisers and small guns from a gameplay perspective it is uncalled for Battleships sure, lets nerf HE says the german BB player :D 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #22 Posted March 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, EnacheV said: sure, lets nerf HE says the german BB player :D No just BB HE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,834 battles Report post #23 Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, EnacheV said: translation : my op ship has only 1 counter please remove it it hurts!!!!!!! counter translation: im a thunderer main 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] EnacheV Players 146 posts 2,112 battles Report post #24 Posted March 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, lameoll said: counter translation: im a thunderer main nope i play this game for 1 month but i also play WoT for 11 years so im an expert on how WG games work 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #25 Posted March 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, EnacheV said: nope i play this game for 1 month but i also play WoT for 11 years so im an expert on how WG games work And yet you have no idea in the balancing between ships. You think BBs are weak, and dakka-Cruisers are OP because their reload is so fast! Maybe play those ships before commenting on stuff you have no idea about. Only because in WoT it is like that, doesnt mean its the same way in WoWs... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites