[CZSKA] Rombescu Players 36 posts 6,424 battles Report post #1 Posted March 18 Hello. I find Scharnhorst terribly lacking. I mean, i know it has torps, yet they are very rare to be used unless you charge in. So lets say alright, lets charge in, but your guns' pen is lacking terribly. And not only your guns' pen but also the accuracy is terrible. I am well aware it's a battlecruiser but i find it terrible to play with and if i look at tier 7 bbs, most of them have higher caliber guns, an average 30 seconds reload, true, but also a dispersion lower than Scharnhorst's. It makes it terrible for money grinding as well, you don't deal that damage. If i look at my Nelson, i love playing it and the dispersion is so lovely. I agree about the RNG thing but i think the Scharnhost deserve a decent buff over the guns because it's a terribly lacking tier 7 battlecruiser. It really isn't real good at anything especially, it's just the reload. I just want it to be decently playable and i get utterly frustrated with most of my accuracy. What do you guys think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATS] ColonelPete Players 31,063 posts 15,715 battles Report post #2 Posted March 18 That she is a great ship. http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/shipstatswk/svr/eu/ship_20210227.html there is no BB in game that allows you to rush in and survive at the beginning of the match with 2.0 Sigma, she is accurate enough the pen is sufficient for the targets you should attack most people do fine with her Spoiler Credits: https://replayswows.com/replay/121278#stats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CZSKA] Rombescu Players 36 posts 6,424 battles Report post #3 Posted March 18 It has the worst accuracy between all tier 7 bbs with the lowest of guns tho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATS] ColonelPete Players 31,063 posts 15,715 battles Report post #4 Posted March 18 44 minutes ago, Rombescu said: It has the worst accuracy between all tier 7 bbs with the lowest of guns tho She has not. Lyon is MUCH worse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CZSKA] Rombescu Players 36 posts 6,424 battles Report post #5 Posted March 18 3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: She has not. Lyon is MUCH worse Not only Lyon has bigger guns and 16 of them. Also 232 stock dispersion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATS] ColonelPete Players 31,063 posts 15,715 battles Report post #6 Posted March 18 47 minutes ago, Rombescu said: Not only Lyon has bigger guns and 16 of them. Also 232 stock dispersion You were talking about having the worst accuracy on the Tier, that is just not true. Nagato - better dispersion at long range, worse dispersion close range, but slower shells, but lacks speed and toughness, performance speaks for itself Colorado - same dispersion, but much slower shells, lacks speed, performance speaks for itself Gneisenau - worse dispersion Lyon - MUCH worse dispersion Duke - worse dispersion King - worse dispersion Strasbourg - worse dispersion Sinop - probably better or least similar dispersion, because of irrgular vertical dispersion Florida - probably slightly better dispersion, because smaller dispersion elipse, despite much smaller Sigma Hood - slightly worse dispersion California - slightly worse dispersion Poltava - probably slightly better dispersion, because smaller dispersion elipse despite much smaller Sigma Nelson - slightly worse dispersion, but slower shells Ashitaka - slightly worse dispersion, except on long range Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CZSKA] Rombescu Players 36 posts 6,424 battles Report post #7 Posted March 18 Yeah, but if you miss the angle, you're not gonna deal damage with the 283 compared to any other guns. The other guns can deal some damage more often than the Scharnhorst's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATS] ColonelPete Players 31,063 posts 15,715 battles Report post #8 Posted March 18 9 minutes ago, Rombescu said: Yeah, but if you miss the angle, you're not gonna deal damage with the 283 compared to any other guns. The other guns can deal some damage more often than the Scharnhorst's. Scharnhorst deals good and important damage. Select your targets accordingly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CZSKA] Rombescu Players 36 posts 6,424 battles Report post #9 Posted March 18 26 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Scharnhorst deals good and important damage. Select your targets accordingly. So if i am 1v1 against a bb that's just angled against me i'm gonna shot HE and miss 4 or 5 out of my shots if he's going straight forward to me? While he's gonna point 4 or 6 cannons towards me, that are gonna hit harder than mine and penetrate and deal 3-4k dmg? While i can hardly even deal 760 if i shot AP and hardly gonna hit anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATS] ColonelPete Players 31,063 posts 15,715 battles Report post #10 Posted March 18 20 minutes ago, Rombescu said: So if i am 1v1 against a bb that's just angled against me i'm gonna shot HE and miss 4 or 5 out of my shots if he's going straight forward to me? While he's gonna point 4 or 6 cannons towards me, that are gonna hit harder than mine and penetrate and deal 3-4k dmg? While i can hardly even deal 760 if i shot AP and hardly gonna hit anyway do not look for 1v1 vs BB, that is not your job when you cannot avoid it, rush him, go for a drive-by and sink him with torps on the way to him, use HE and aim properly, then you will hit more when you reach him, select AP and aim for the upper belt or citadel, depending on target Look for flanking positions, focus cruiser and DD. That is your job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CZSKA] Rombescu Players 36 posts 6,424 battles Report post #11 Posted March 18 9 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: do not look for 1v1 vs BB, that is not your job when you cannot avoid it, rush him, go for a drive-by and sink him with torps on the way to him, use HE and aim properly, then you will hit more when you reach him, select AP and aim for the upper belt or citadel, depending on target Look for flanking positions, focus cruiser and DD. That is your job. I know that's what i am supposed to do in those cases, this is what i'm telling you. I really don't hit with those guns. I should snipe with a battlecruiser? Using the last perk? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATS] ColonelPete Players 31,063 posts 15,715 battles Report post #12 Posted March 18 1 minute ago, Rombescu said: I know that's what i am supposed to do in those cases, this is what i'm telling you. I really don't hit with those guns. I should snipe with a battlecruiser? Using the last perk? Then work on your aim. It is not the guns. And why would you even consider sniping when you have already problems hitting stuff? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CZSKA] Rombescu Players 36 posts 6,424 battles Report post #13 Posted March 18 9 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Then work on your aim. It is not the guns. And why would you even consider sniping when you have already problems hitting stuff? Because the last perks lowers the dispersion to around 220m theoretically. A thing you haven't considered, while you already have considered me not aiming properly when it's not rocket science Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATS] ColonelPete Players 31,063 posts 15,715 battles Report post #14 Posted March 18 Just now, Rombescu said: Because the last perks lowers the dispersion to around 220m theoretically. A thing you haven't considered, while you already have considered me not aiming properly when it's not rocket science When you get a worse hit rating in her than in other ships, you are indeed not aiming properly. And I considered Dead Eye and decided against it, becauses it causes BB to stay back and not tank for the team. It will also be reworked soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CZSKA] Rombescu Players 36 posts 6,424 battles Report post #15 Posted March 18 12 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: When you get a worse hit rating in her than in other ships, you are indeed not aiming properly. And I considered Dead Eye and decided against it, becauses it causes BB to stay back and not tank for the team. It will also be reworked soon. Glad to hear so! Thank you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SERBS] _DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,656 battles Report post #16 Posted March 19 The main problem with Scharnhorst is smth being called - powercreep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CZSKA] Rombescu Players 36 posts 6,424 battles Report post #17 Posted March 19 3 hours ago, _DeathWing_ said: The main problem with Scharnhorst is smth being called - powercreep Yeah well that's the thing, it deserves a rework Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATS] ColonelPete Players 31,063 posts 15,715 battles Report post #18 Posted March 19 With that performance, it is unlikely that this will happen. There is a chance that WG will touch the secondary skills, but do not count on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
