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Stalingrad's DFAA Question

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I was reading over Stalingrad in the armory and I'm confused over its DFAA consumable.

 

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What do they mean by +50% bonus damage? Is it a 50% bonus over normal DFAA, so 75% in total? Or is it a 50% flat increase, so 100% in total?

I'm also confused because when I tried looking into the Wiki, I'm met with conflicting answers. 

 

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The wiki states that 25% less damage while the armory says it's a 50% increase. Is the wiki outdated? Which info is the real one? And what's the real damage percentage in-game atm? 

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Wiki is community made so might not be fully correct but also wg never updates the descriptions of ships. Best bet is to check on wowsft 

 

Not that it makes any difference you wont be shooting down any planes with it anyway. :Smile-_tongue:

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4 minutes ago, Miki12345 said:

Wiki is community made so might not be fully correct but also wg never updates the descriptions of ships. Best bet is to check on wowsft 

 

Not that it makes any difference you wont be shooting down any planes with it anyway. :Smile-_tongue:

you stupid ? a fully aa speced stalin is quite hard to play against as a cv (not imposible ofcourse) but you will soot down allot fo planes! 

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1 hour ago, Miki12345 said:

Wiki is community made so might not be fully correct but also wg never updates the descriptions of ships. Best bet is to check on wowsft 

 

Not that it makes any difference you wont be shooting down any planes with it anyway. :Smile-_tongue:

Hmmm...I'll check it out.

On that note, how reliable is that site? 

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2 hours ago, Communist_Loli said:

The wiki states that 25% less damage while the armory says it's a 50% increase. Is the wiki outdated? Which info is the real one? And what's the real damage percentage in-game atm? 

 

Stalin DefAA

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Standard DefAA

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I think the Wiki description is the old DefAA from before CV rework. Now Stalin has just shittier version which runs for 20 sec more (which is completely useless ofc) with 100 sec longer CD.

 

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2 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

 

Stalin DefAA

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Standard DefAA

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I think the Wiki description is the old DefAA from before CV rework. Now Stalin has just shittier version which runs for 20 sec more (which is completely useless ofc) with 100 sec longer CD.

 

Ahhh, that's a bummer...

 

Thx for the clarification anyways :fish_cute_2:

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1 hour ago, albin322 said:

you stupid ? a fully aa speced stalin is quite hard to play against as a cv (not imposible ofcourse) but you will soot down allot fo planes! 

 

Stalin has terrible AA. A full AA spec is not gonna make it much better.

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25 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

Stalin has terrible AA. A full AA spec is not gonna make it much better.

 

Doesn't it have similar AA to Petro? 

 

I mean if it's isolated you can ofc do your thing anyway, but I think the AA is far from terrible in comparison to other ships. :) 

 

AA spec is a waste of points though, yeah! 

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3 hours ago, albin322 said:

you stupid ? a fully aa speced stalin is quite hard to play against as a cv (not imposible ofcourse) but you will soot down allot fo planes! 

Hey man its okay to have a different opinion even though its wrong but I did not insult you so please refrain from doing the same. Dont want to involve the mods in this ;)

1 hour ago, Communist_Loli said:

On that note, how reliable is that site?

Its quite reliable, not 100% but its the most reliable site to obtain such info usually. Proships is also good to compare numbers but not updated often.

 

 

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1 hour ago, El2aZeR said:

 

Stalin has terrible AA. A full AA spec is not gonna make it much better.

Terrible AA? If I didn’t know who are you are I would disagree. Knowing that carving through AA is one of the things you are good at just makes me ask, why?

 

I have had experiences where I have shot down between 11 and 14 planes of FDR squadrons. Other times I have failed to take out a single plane. So flaks seems to do well enough If planes fly through it. 
Is it continuous AA where the problem lies?

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Just now, Franz_von_Suppe said:

So the wiki is correct, and the armory is wrong.

 

Ah yes ofc, i thought wiki had old info...

Well, thats what i get for thinking WG is keeping its own game up-to-date :cap_book:

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3 hours ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

Doesn't it have similar AA to Petro? 

 

Petro actually has worse AA, though the main difference is in short range so it won't matter all that much.

 

3 hours ago, gopher31 said:

Is it continuous AA where the problem lies?

 

Yes, the DPS is mediocre at best.

FDR is the only CV in the game that has issues evading flak.

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11 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

Yes, the DPS is mediocre at best.

FDR is the only CV in the game that has issues evading flak.

And for artificial reasons too. 

I wonder would calis AA at tier 5 make a difference at all?

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