Please remove Karma

[Cyclops_]

 

Yes another thread on Karma, just played 4 battles we won all 4, in two of my DD', Asashio and Friesland, I was in a division of 3 for the first 2 and 2 for the second 2 Battles. I finished top in 2, 3rd in 1 and 4th in the other I helped team mates where possible with smoke, etc never berated anyone in chat etc, yet i lost a Karma point in each battle, FFS people get a grip please or just remove karma altogether and have a straight reporting system for abuse, afk and unsportsmanlike behaviour, and make them worth while I.E, WG has to check the reports etc before bans etc are put into place.  

 

[KillStealBoss]

There's a mod that does that and you don't see it anymore. 

[Cyclops_]

5 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

There's a mod that does that and you don't see it anymore. 

But it will not stop numpty's removing karma points because you  killed them or beat them in a battle??

[KillStealBoss]

Just now, Cyclops_ said:

But it will not stop numpty's removing karma points because you  killed them or beat them in a battle??

If you won't see it in port then you won't bother.

[JohnMac79]

Karma is like achieving R1 one in ranked battles, utterly meaningless.

 

 

[anonym_ED57N4NbHHsY]

31 minutes ago, Cyclops_ said:

But it will not stop numpty's removing karma points because you  killed them or beat them in a battle??

Who cares, if they want to report you then whats the problem, karma has no meaning so why care.

[SodaBubbles]

1 hour ago, Cyclops_ said:

 

Yes another thread on Karma, just played 4 battles we won all 4, in two of my DD', Asashio and Friesland, I was in a division of 3 for the first 2 and 2 for the second 2 Battles. I finished top in 2, 3rd in 1 and 4th in the other I helped team mates where possible with smoke, etc never berated anyone in chat etc, yet i lost a Karma point in each battle, FFS people get a grip please or just remove karma altogether and have a straight reporting system for abuse, afk and unsportsmanlike behaviour, and make them worth while I.E, WG has to check the reports etc before bans etc are put into place.  

 

Lots of ppl report ships they don't like or which they feel should not be in the game, such as CVs. Asashio is a widely despised gimmick ship and I know players who routinely report it. HE spammers in smoke also get reported sometimes.

It thus probably has nothing to do with your play, but rather, the ship you are in. Because WG offers players no opt-outs or other avenues to avoid ships they feel don't belong in the game, and no way to protest, karmic punishment is one of the few ways players can protest dumb decisions by the devs, like flooding the game with CVs and broken ships like Petra or Asashio.

[MementoMori_6030]

My karma removes itself. I guess my dead enemies report me more often than they commend me. It's really surprising how little they appreciate death. I shall torment their ungrateful souls with necromantic rituals throughout eternity. ☠

[159Hunter]

But why? It's just a number hidden in port somewhere. It has 0 impact on the game (ok, it actually determines thea mount of +1 / -1 you can give, but that has no impact anyways).

So why care? Yes people can be salty losers, yes people can be trolling, yes people can be toxic... the way for them to express this by not breaking chat rules is to mess with your karma.

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

You care about your karma points, OP? May I ask why?

 

Though, I was annoyed yesterday myself. Two games in a row I was complimented, making my karma 2. I took care of that right quick, though. 

[RenamedUser_92906789]

I heard wg will give out sc for every 10 karma points in the near future 

[ThePurpleSmurf]

1 minute ago, nambr9 said:

I heard wg will give out sc for every 10 karma points in the near future 

For a while they gave out FTW camos for positive karma and no chat bans on NA. I think it was every 3 months where you got like 25 of them. Back then these camos were really good with 333% commander XP and +20% credits. This "good behavior program" never made it to EU and was dumped again after about a year on NA.

 

Anyway, the only stupid thing about karma is, that reports are bound to it. Like how many times you can report players. At least chat reports should be unlimited, because what does WG think? That people suddenly stop their racist and other [edited] in chat after you used your 7 to 11 reports over the course of maybe 20 games?

[Miscommunication_dept]

Karma is only a way to allow players to vent, WG have said this themselves. Best not to worry about it.

[bobtherterrible]

Sure is nice when you have a good game and get a compliment or two tho.

[NorShii]

5 minutes ago, bobtherterrible said:

Sure is nice when you have a good game and get a compliment or two tho.

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

Karma is indeed meaningless. Befriended players of the same or different clans complementing themselves all day long when they see each other. It is a totally common practice. Especially when you play a 2 or 3 dvision and get some colleagues in divisions in the other team. For the regular player, you will get downvoted for basically everything. For not being everywhere at once, for winning, for killing, for surviving, for kill "stealing". It is completely ridiculous. Ignore stupid commands by dead suicidal team mates who rage all over the entire battle, end up winning: "Your karma has decreased". I can sweat my [edited] off and then see my karma gets reduced after the battle. I can win +5 in a row by sweating my [edited] off, only to lose it all in one game. It is a completely ridiculous, abused and misused feature and especially demotivating for newer players and beginners. It is a louzy attempt at implementing something like a social score. Instead, WG should get their s*** together and actually reward the 3 best players of both teams with an extra bonus, to motivate others to actually improve their gameplay. The entire toxicity of this game is actively incentivized and promoted by WG by welcomingly allowing new players to die themselves up the tiers. The player base has never been that worse before and there are hardly any other games where there is in most cases a ZERO learning curve after thousands and even ten thousands of battles played and hundreds of hours of in game time spent.

[AkerJack]

9 hours ago, MacArthur92 said:

If you won't see it in port then you won't bother.

The question is why people get bothered at all by this useless thing?

[Hugh_Ruka]

Just Ignore(TM)

[NorShii]

2 minutes ago, AkerJack said:

The question is why people get bothered at all by this useless thing?

Because said people are snowflakes and think their A+ in behaviour will drop to a D just because of a few mald people had s*** in their cornflakes that morning.

[AkerJack]

19 minutes ago, SDRS_Meister said:

Because said people are snowflakes and think their A+ in behaviour will drop to a D just because of a few mald people had s*** in their cornflakes that morning.

It couldn't exist a better explanation!! 

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

39 minutes ago, SDRS_Meister said:

Because said people are snowflakes and think their A+ in behaviour will drop to a D just because of a few mald people had s*** in their cornflakes that morning.

That is too short of a thought. It is not wrong however. But imagine new players hopping into the lower tiers, meet all those super sweats with their legendary commanders boosting their stats, only to see "Your karma has decreased" after a game, just because they could not repeat their purple stat pad PR against bots this time. It is too outdated of a feature and even removing it seems to take resources WG does not have time to spend all together.

[NorShii]

15 minutes ago, Von_Pruss said:

That is too short of a thought. It is not wrong however. But imagine new players hopping into the lower tiers, meet all those super sweats with their legendary commanders boosting their stats, only to see "Your karma has decreased" after a game, just because they could not repeat their purple stat pad PR against bots this time. It is too outdated of a feature and even removing it seems to take resources WG does not have time to spend all together.

That's true, but it's still important for new players to learn to not care about karma. Because in the end the worst that can happen is that they have a breakdown or they learn to not give a damn. I remember meeting a guy in randoms, he was malding because the flank that I was on was going "too slow" for him, I asked him who took a s*** in his cornflakes and he reported and DM'd me about it LOL. Mald people will be mald

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

1 hour ago, bobtherterrible said:

Sure is nice when you have a good game and get a compliment or two tho.

 

My last ranked I had 4 kills... almost Kraken and I needed lucky salvo too kill 1 remaining enemy DD) but we still unfortunately lost... I got +5 Karma from that match alone (from both my team and enemy team)...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[Ronchabale]

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My "Karma" has been at a steady "1" for 2-3 weeks

Havn´t said much in chat 

Havn´t done anything exceptionally stupid

 

[_HomTanks_]

23 minutes ago, SDRS_Meister said:

That's true, but it's still important for new players to learn to not care about karma. 

If there is no such thing as karma, they don’t have to learn not to care about it.