Update 0.10.2 – Italian Battleships: Part 2

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

• WG gives Marco Polo better precision than the tech tree ship
• WG releases steel ship with endless and buffed reload booster consumable
• WG artificially limits "overperforming" premiums such as Graf Spee, Z-39 and Haida (LOL) only to get hold of more filling material for the next loot box short lists, mark my words
• On top of that more new ship atrocities are waiting to be released (See Flamu's new powercreep video) and the new german DDs are dead on arrival including the shipyard vessel (who would have thought)

 

Applause, WG, applause.

[VonBlund]

3 horas antes, ImLate dijo:

How much for a premium one? I would love to buy it.

Will there be a re-roll for ships you already own?  

[Maris_Piper]

  Hurray War Gambling is Back  

[Bear__Necessities]

You wouldn't have to remove "over performing ships" If you released them balanced. But what would we the player base know....

[JohnMac79]

2 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

No info about any changes about Flint, yet. We are still monitoring that, though.

 

1 hour ago, YabbaCoe said:

Erich is OP on tier VI, especially it has attack aircraft from Perseval.

T-61 is definitely OP, always been.

So why release them in the first place? 

[K82J]

3 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

Well, you know, sometimes we have to make some changes, to make it fresh. Also those ships are something from that mentioned "combination of their popularity and combat efficiency" - either one of those, or both.

 

Asashio B gets removed as well ?

[FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor]

Can't help but notice it once again says nothing about a rework of the glorious captain skill rework.

Sooo the only question remaining is -

 

Spoiler

Yousician or Rocksmith?

 

[lmperial_Japanese_Navy]

Don't mind me i'm just being (un) patiently waiting for the IJN Ise-class battleships and IJN Tone heavy cruiser...

 

Spoiler

 

Release these beauties already !

[S_h_i_v_a]

7 ore fa, YabbaCoe ha scritto:

 

Also this also gives option to place there some more, different ships.

So there is a rule about a maximum number of ships you can put in store / armory? Impossible simply add more ships?

Thx for the laugh.

[300ConfirmedKills]

Vor 15 Stunden, Bear__Necessities sagte:

You wouldn't have to remove "over performing ships" If you released them balanced. But what would we the player base know....

Or simply balanced them after the fact. WG could give the owners an additional ship with the original stats for use in PvE only, to relive the OP memories.

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

14 hours ago, JohnMac79 said:

So why release them in the first place? 

To give an incentive to buy, apply pressure on the players willing to spend money. Then artificially removing these "op" ships. Then reintroducing them, but only in loot boxes, where the chances are very limited to get one of these "rare" and "op" ships. Profit. It is a genious marketing strategy. This way WG generates the regular revenues from the ship sales, then everyone is discussing how strong they are. New players need to get those ships, but they cannot get hold of them. So whenever possible, they get themselves lured into buying loot boxes. Imagine there are players who cashed in $ 500 just do get the Missouri or Belfast. It is like selling drugs. Giving away free or cheap samples. When people got hooked say you do not have any more. You could get some, but it is way riskier now and you would need to ask for x10 of the price. ^^

[cicciopuffo]

It is a good idea to give containers with a chance to get premium ships for free instead than dobloons, I was just thinking to buy some of them now I wait the end of the 10.2.

 

And I love the Dasha Italian commander, because...I love Dasha.

 

I hate no smoke on Marco Polo without giving it back the HE! all othe IT premiums have HE and no smoke (exept Leone)....will people spend 228k coal on Marco Polo or Pommern !?

 

And the absurdly long reload time on IT BBs tier IX-X, only the US Kansas-Vermont tier has worse, but those ships all carry 406- 457 guns and many more of them! 

I have not seen the stats, guess the ADPM of IT BBs will be worse of all.

[firerider202]

Vor 20 Minuten, 300ConfirmedKills sagte:

Or simply balanced them after the fact.

Well, that is unwanted by the community. That was shown well enough when they tried something with cäsare. When you need to organize refounds, different ship versions and stuff like that its just not worth it in comparison to just remove the ship from sale and move on. 

 

[YabbaCoe]

Před 17 hodinami bobtherterrible řekl/a:

Thanks

I'd also like to know - the ships in early access, if I grind XP on them, can I unlock the next one? E.g. if I grind F Caracciolo can I :

1. unlock V Veneto during early access
2. gain XP and use this XP to unlock V Veneto after early access
3. neither of the above, XP during early access can't be used.

2. is correct

 

Před 17 hodinami TheBicentennialman řekl/a:

X Austin, available for 29,000 Steel, is a U.S. cruiser that was designed at the end of World War II. The ship is armed with twelve dual-purpose 127 mm guns in six turrets, and carries two quintuple-tube torpedo launcher mounts. The cruiser has an unlimited number of charges for the Main Battery Reload Booster consumable, which reduces the reload time of her guns by 75% instead of the standard 50%. She also has the Hydroacoustic Search and Defensive AA Fire consumables in separate slots. Her AA defenses are efficient, and she’s armed with (SAP shells instead of AP shells).  <<<<<

Yes, Austin has SAPs instead of APs

 

Před 17 hodinami VonBlund řekl/a:

Will there be a re-roll for ships you already own?  

Yes

Před 16 hodinami JohnMac79 řekl/a:

 

 

So why release them in the first place? 

Before they didn't seem to be that effective.

 

Před 16 hodinami K82J řekl/a:

 

Asashio B gets removed as well ?

You can't buy or obtain Asashio B now.

 

Před 13 hodinami S_h_i_v_a řekl/a:

So there is a rule about a maximum number of ships you can put in store / armory? Impossible simply add more ships?

Thx for the laugh.

Afaik, there is not. We just want to make some change, some rotation there.

[HMS_Kilinowski]

Concerning the ships to be removed:

 

Are they going to be removed before the coupons are being refreshed?

 

I can understand some of the ships are quite powerful. Others can only be classified as overpowered, if you define overpowered as "2 percentage points above average". That again makes me wonder how Wargaming intends to balance future releases within such a tight threshold. If you balance premium ships you then literally punish the ship for the widely used possibility to use maxxed commanders on them, cause you will e.g. hardly find a T6-tech-tree ship that features a maxxed captain. This especially holds true with the commander rework, where I can have a dedicated build for a premium ship. You will probably even see lots of unique commanders on it. So consequently that increases the performance of the ship, tho the properties that cause this are not part of the ship. I doubt Wargaming goes into detail that much to decompose the effects of commanders, years of experience of its average player and ship on its stats.

 

I especially want to make a case for the Graf Spee. We are talking about one of the few designs that have a historic relevance. You can't remove Graf Spee just as you can't remove Emden, Warspite or Yamato. That would demonstrate a lack of respect for the whole theme. These ships are the inspiration behind your game. Without ships like Graf Spee and their authentic stories, there would be no World of Warships. Also the maplysyrup numbers show 8k battles played in Graf Spee within a week as compared to 22k battles in the Nürnberg and 30k battles in the Bayern in the respective time period. That does not seem to be overly popular. Since it has been given away for free twice, I don't see the harm in keeping it available to new players. But that's me.

 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

I watched the video and asked myself: what is this game about again?

The ships can be substituted for fluffy alien zombies for all I care - it suits the narrative and weird music choice better, that's how much this team is focusing on actual warships combat these days. 

[JohnMac79]

On 3/15/2021 at 4:34 PM, YabbaCoe said:

Erich is OP on tier VI, especially it has attack aircraft from Perseval.

T-61 is definitely OP, always been.

 

23 hours ago, JohnMac79 said:

So why release them in the first place? 

7 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

Before they didn't seem to be that effective.

 

[Mani202]

SFX are not working. No welding sparks, no AA animations, no wave distortions from main gun fire, ship fires look exactly the same, ship explosions look exactly the same, shell water hit look exactly the same, torpedo looks the same, no parachutes and corkscrewing aircraft deaths. 

My GFX settings are maxed out.  GForce 1080.  Checked the settings and there is no option for please tick here for all the hyped up new SFX.  Do I need to reinstall the client?

 

Many thanks

[Klopirat]

Vor 9 Minuten, Mani202 sagte:

SFX are not working.

so you have a time machine or how do you know this already today ?

[wot_2016_gunner]

13 minuti fa, Mani202 ha scritto:

SFX are not working

how about reading the patch notes 

[Zemeritt]

10 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

Before they didn't seem to be that effective.

 

Just like as it was completly unpredictable that Dead-Eye would mess up the meta.

Thanks for proving that your company has zero foresight besides money anymore.

 

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

11 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

Before they didn't seem to be that effective.

This is nothing but a straight out lie and you should have just kept silence instead of posting such bs and lying into our faces. You can easily look up battles played per ship, as you can read above. Especially T-61 and Erich (CV) from the start were very powerful and climbed the top rank of their class and tier with less battles than all the other ships. You know why you add powerful tools to the game, only to artificially limit them again. Taking Spee out of the store and the other ships only serves one purpose, to reintroduce them in boxes. And you know it. How can you blatantly lie into our faces? It is ridiculous and you should really feel ashamed. It is ridiculously unprofessional what you are doing over and over again. What an amateurish CM you are.

[bobtherterrible]

On 3/15/2021 at 4:34 PM, YabbaCoe said:

 

 

New missions, containers, arrival of Marco Polo as coal ship, but indeed those ships from Dante to Lepanto still won't be released in tech tree. That will happen in the next update.

Hey @YabbaCoe it says here in my game that I can gain access to v veneto by completing a special mission.

 

What's the special mission? Did I miss it?

 

Same for Lepanto

 

[JohnMac79]

36 minutes ago, bobtherterrible said:

Hey @YabbaCoe it says here in my game that I can gain access to v veneto by completing a special mission.

 

What's the special mission? Did I miss it?

 

 

Same for Lepanto

 

Your mission today captain, is to purchase lots of lovely doubloons to spend on what appear on the surface to be rigged containers. Again.

 

About €200 should suffice for this soon to be tech tree ship, dont grind ship lines anymore, just buy them! Thanks for supporting our practices. We would ask you how you feel in a poll but you would give the wrong answer.

[Hugh_Ruka]

5 hours ago, wot_2016_gunner said:

how about reading the patch notes 

Well he kinda has a point. The graphics improvements are all client side, so there seems to be little reason to wait for SERVER patches to activate them ....