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As with the similar article relating to the USN BB branch early access event, the following statement is quite misleading:image.thumb.png.158488e52264c3593ba21f165bd47923.png
This note should mention that Lepanto will become a researchable tech tree ship when the early access period ends.

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How these Italian Cruisers were in real life is soo far removed from this Thing in game it's  unbelievable,  it makes my little bit of Italian Blood Boil everything that faded into oblivion in weeks is being dragged out. This is getting to be the Friday Junk Shop, What Next Krispy Kreeme :Smile_facepalm:

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17 minutes ago, 300ConfirmedKills said:

This note should mention that Lepanto will become a researchable tech tree ship when the early access period ends.

Until the tree is not released yet, their statement is true however. :cap_haloween:

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Gorizia:

Has access to Hydroacoustic Search (While active, detects all enemy ships and torpedoes within the specified radius, without regard of obstacles such as smoke and terrain.) consumable, unlike most Italian cruisers ...

Is this a same Zara ship with added sonar?

Why cant mount sonar to any italian cruiser in consumables slot? This ship got added sonar behind paywall...

Anyway Zara is not a good ship cant say anything from buffed version.

Just remember La Galissonnière << De Grasse (behind paywall too) never fixed. LaGal have reload booster now (didn't have when relased) and different AA.

Is it right to sell a tech tree ship with added feature for doublon...

 

Zara << Gorizia for money or miss-checked something?

 

In a competitive game. Nobody use ita ships in brawl-> crawling SMOKE and NO SONAR get "FUN" ... for the enemy...

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Před 1 hodinou 300ConfirmedKills řekl/a:

As with the similar article relating to the USN BB branch early access event, the following statement is quite misleading:image.thumb.png.158488e52264c3593ba21f165bd47923.png
This note should mention that Lepanto will become a researchable tech tree ship when the early access period ends.

Well, yeah... so far the only way how to get the Lepanto is from random bundles in Armory. IT BBs will leave EA in 0.10.3, as announced.

 

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Gorizia:

Has access to Hydroacoustic Search (While active, detects all enemy ships and torpedoes within the specified radius, without regard of obstacles such as smoke and terrain.) consumable, unlike most Italian cruisers ...

Is this a same Zara ship with added sonar?

Why cant mount sonar to any italian cruiser in consumables slot? This ship got added sonar behind paywall...

Anyway Zara is not a good ship cant say anything from buffed version.

Just remember La Galissonnière << De Grasse (behind paywall too) never fixed. LaGal have reload booster now (didn't have when relased) and different AA.

Is it right to sell a tech tree ship with added feature for doublon...

 

Zara << Gorizia for money or miss-checked something?

 

In a competitive game. Nobody use ita ships in brawl-> crawling SMOKE and NO SONAR get "FUN" ... for the enemy...

Gorizia is a little more different than Zara.

She has the hydro, but she doesn't have torpedoes.

Also actually Zara is overperforming Gorizia.

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49 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

Also actually Zara is overperforming Gorizia.

 

This is good (in my opinion) as it means a Premium ship is not a pay-to-win option and resembles WG's historical approach to Premiums: never better than the Tech Tree equivalent. The advantage was always in the credit-earning co-efficient and in the crew (re)training.

 

 

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52 minutes ago, britinmadrid said:

 

This is good (in my opinion) as it means a Premium ship is not a pay-to-win option and resembles WG's historical approach to Premiums: never better than the Tech Tree equivalent. The advantage was always in the credit-earning co-efficient and in the crew (re)training.

 

 

I like the Premiums that are different to the Tech Tree ships the Zara/Gorizia do fulfil this as do say Kii/Amagi the Gorizia though well LWM says it all, I stay well away from The Copy, Nerf, Pay and Play rubbish from what WG throw out nowadays Pay to Win is Well and Truly Dead and Gone, that's if it was a thing at all.

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Před 26 minutami britinmadrid řekl/a:

 

This is good (in my opinion) as it means a Premium ship is not a pay-to-win option and resembles WG's historical approach to Premiums: never better than the Tech Tree equivalent. The advantage was always in the credit-earning co-efficient and in the crew (re)training.

 

 

We don't want to publish premium ships that are better than their tech tree equivalent, that is true. The thing is those premiums are often different to the tech tree version, which is the example of Zara/Gorizia. So Zara has the potential to deal more damage thanks to torpedoes, Gorizia has more defence options with that hydro.

Kinda same to Bismarck/Tirpitz... which one is better?

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reminder for the people here - wg/lesta nerf prem ships as they want (though it is hard to nerf anything further with gorizia) for example - massa, georgia, supercruisers ...

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Před 2 hodinami hellhound666 řekl/a:

reminder for the people here - wg/lesta nerf prem ships as they want (though it is hard to nerf anything further with gorizia) for example - massa, georgia, supercruisers ...

Those ships weren't nerfed, as mentioned plenty times, not a single premium ship was nerfed...

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4 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

Those ships weren't nerfed, as mentioned plenty times, not a single premium ship was nerfed...

 

GZ Rockets once were pretty Accurate due to long Aiming reticle.

Now they cant hit the Side of a Barn cause GZ has a few Heavy Rockets on Wide Angle.

 

GZ Secondaries once were really Dangerous even to BBs and Supercruisers.

Because with IFHE they could Pen 32mm of Plating.

Now GZ cant take IFHE anymore.

 

GZ Divebombers once were capable of Reliably hitting Larger Cruisers and BBs because the Bombers would Fly really low after a Dive and could drop Bombs really close to the Surface.

Now thanks to minimum Alt the Bombs will often miss because they fly to the outer edge of the Aiming Circle...

 

 

 

It might be true that you dont Nerf a Specific Premium Ships Parameters for Balancing.

 

But many of your Changes are Defacto Nerfs/Buffs to Specific Ships.

And some Premium Ships like GZ have Suffered Heavy Nerfs thanks to such Changes.

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4 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

We don't want to publish premium ships that are better than their tech tree equivalent, that is true.

hahahahaha this made my day.

 

Sometimes i really wonder do you guys even play this game.

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28 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

Those ships weren't nerfed, as mentioned plenty times, not a single premium ship was nerfed.

If a ship gets screwed over no matter how you do it it's Nerfed, because it's been mistakenly bought in good faith for what it can be made to do and that :etc_swear:es the buyer off. The amount of times you have tried to get us to except  the above statement and it's just been ignored because we don't agree speaks highly of your tenacity but again as with Flint it was a low trick :Smile_honoring:

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39 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

Those ships weren't nerfed, as mentioned plenty times, not a single premium ship was nerfed...

stop lying - secondary abilities of massa and georgia are significantly worse now compared to what they were. they were often bought to have certain gameplay and it is not efficient anymore

the same is with super cruisers - also their survivability got seriously nerfed by removing fire prevention from usable skills.

and I could even live with that, life changes and all that crap ...

but your blatant lying and that you don't offer compensation for that is what I will keep to remind you till I consider it necessary ...

with every new ship article, I will keep bringing this issue up, till you fix it in either way

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Vor 9 Stunden, YabbaCoe sagte:

Well, yeah... so far the only way how to get the Lepanto is from random bundles in Armory. IT BBs will leave EA in 0.10.3, as announced.

The note should say this, instead of giving the impression that Lepanto will be behind a paywall for the foreseeable future.

Vor 3 Stunden, Sunleader sagte:

 

GZ Rockets once were pretty Accurate due to long Aiming reticle.

Now they cant hit the Side of a Barn cause GZ has a few Heavy Rockets on Wide Angle.

 

GZ Secondaries once were really Dangerous even to BBs and Supercruisers.

Because with IFHE they could Pen 32mm of Plating.

Now GZ cant take IFHE anymore.

 

GZ Divebombers once were capable of Reliably hitting Larger Cruisers and BBs because the Bombers would Fly really low after a Dive and could drop Bombs really close to the Surface.

Now thanks to minimum Alt the Bombs will often miss because they fly to the outer edge of the Aiming Circle...

 

 

 

It might be true that you dont Nerf a Specific Premium Ships Parameters for Balancing.

 

But many of your Changes are Defacto Nerfs/Buffs to Specific Ships.

And some Premium Ships like GZ have Suffered Heavy Nerfs thanks to such Changes.

and that's a good thing! The only problem with this is that WG hides balance changes to premium ships behind the flimsy 'global change' rationalisation instead of being forthright and explicitly stating that premium ships are subject to the same balance considerations as researchable tech tree ships, as is their duty as developers of a purportedly 'free to win' game.

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9 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

We don't want to publish premium ships that are better than their tech tree equivalent, that is true. ....

comments on ST 0.10.3 new ships in development blog then ...

or you don't read them?

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5 hours ago, 300ConfirmedKills said:

 

The note should say this, instead of giving the impression that Lepanto will be behind a paywall for the foreseeable future.

and that's a good thing! The only problem with this is that WG hides balance changes to premium ships behind the flimsy 'global change' rationalisation instead of being forthright and explicitly stating that premium ships are subject to the same balance considerations as researchable tech tree ships, as is their duty as developers of a purportedly 'free to win' game.

 

In this case. Frankly its not a Good thing at all.

 

Because all of these Changes basicly Nerfed Graf Zeppelin. The CV which is Already the Weakest on T8.

Meanwhile none of these Affected Enterprise. Which is the most OP CV on T8......

 

 

I will always Agree that they Should Balance Premium Ships.

But saying its a Good thing in this case would just be Wrong.

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V 12. 3. 2021 v 21:50 hellhound666 řekl/a:

comments on ST 0.10.3 new ships in development blog then ...

or you don't read them?

Of course I am reading all of them.

What exactly do you have in mind?

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On 3/12/2021 at 11:19 AM, YabbaCoe said:

Well, yeah... so far the only way how to get the Lepanto is from random bundles in Armory. IT BBs will leave EA in 0.10.3, as announced.

Well, yeah.... that is why it is willfully misleading to omit that little note in the advertised text. Noticed how little effort it took to specify it here on the forums :cap_like:

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Před 5 minutami Europizza řekl/a:

Well, yeah.... that is why it is willfully misleading to omit that little note in the advertised text. Noticed how little effort it took to specify it here on the forums :cap_like:

What exactly was omitted according to you? That Lepanto can be obtained only from Random bundles?

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On 3/12/2021 at 9:28 AM, 300ConfirmedKills said:

As with the similar article relating to the USN BB branch early access event, the following statement is quite misleading:image.thumb.png.158488e52264c3593ba21f165bd47923.png
This note should mention that Lepanto will become a researchable tech tree ship when the early access period ends.

 

44 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

What exactly was omitted according to you? That Lepanto can be obtained only from Random bundles?

:Smile_sceptic:

 

Really.

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55 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

What exactly was omitted according to you? That Lepanto can be obtained only from Random bundles?

Perhaps some company's may have added for a limited period or even for now, Clarification is always nice obviously business practices differ country to country as do PR Methods and Styles just a thought

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