[HALON] marcopieroni16 Players 114 posts 4,446 battles Report post #1 Posted March 10, 2021 there are plenty of battles in real life where only the carriers fought, other vessels were just an escort, so i would suggest an operation entirely for carriers, it can be the attack on pearl harbor, the bombardament of darwin, capo engano (kinda) , coral sea, midway, guadalcanal, santa cruz and much more........ the maximun would be, you guessed it , 6 carriers, from tier 6-8 . i think it would be really fun to see different squadrons for once, and not only my own planes........ coordination of attacks from air with different players sounds good to me, of course, in random MM it may not be easy, but in division......i think it would be really fun 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #2 Posted March 10, 2021 If only, but WG has pretty much removed carriers from operations, or at least carriers with planes, there's the wayward Raptor that keeps hitting every rock on the way... no wonder it's called 'Raptor Rescue'..... 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HALON] marcopieroni16 Players 114 posts 4,446 battles Report post #3 Posted March 10, 2021 Proprio ora, Karasu_Hidesuke ha scritto: If only, but WG has pretty much removed carriers from operations, or at least carriers with planes, there's the wayward Raptor that keeps hitting every rock on the way... no wonder it's called 'Raptor Rescue'..... raptor in that level sends just one plane of a full squadron around, like wtf. anyway there wouldnt be bot carriers in the blue team but just players or maybe a bot to protect, like the shouhou at coral sea 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #4 Posted March 10, 2021 Why not Jutland 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #5 Posted March 10, 2021 14 minutes ago, Ronchabale said: Why not Jutland Jutland without carriers fine, with carriers... less so, though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,226 battles Report post #6 Posted March 10, 2021 It would certainly be different and maybe a good way for people who are not that good at CV gameplay to enjoy it outside of coop. Sadly though we all know WGs stance on scenarios that apparently they are not popular enough to warrant developing or even bringing back the missing ones (makes me wonder what percentage of players actually play scenarios). 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HALON] marcopieroni16 Players 114 posts 4,446 battles Report post #7 Posted March 10, 2021 29 minuti fa, Ronchabale ha scritto: Why not Jutland me : talks about carrier battles you : "[edited]" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HALON] marcopieroni16 Players 114 posts 4,446 battles Report post #8 Posted March 10, 2021 12 minuti fa, lovelacebeer ha scritto: It would certainly be different and maybe a good way for people who are not that good at CV gameplay to enjoy it outside of coop. Sadly though we all know WGs stance on scenarios that apparently they are not popular enough to warrant developing or even bringing back the missing ones (makes me wonder what percentage of players actually play scenarios). surely narai is the most played, i also really life the defense of newport 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #9 Posted March 10, 2021 23 minutes ago, marcopieroni16 said: surely narai is the most played, i also really life the defense of newport Wait.. you serious? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HALON] marcopieroni16 Players 114 posts 4,446 battles Report post #10 Posted March 10, 2021 4 ore fa, Karasu_Hidesuke ha scritto: Wait.. you serious? yes...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #11 Posted March 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, marcopieroni16 said: yes...... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #12 Posted March 10, 2021 There are so many nice real life naval battles, that could be placed into this game. Yet, WG doesnt seem to be interested in it. We had sososo many suggestions like this one over the years and WG pretty much reacted with... removing more and more scenarios, that we used to have. So dont get too excited over your idea, chances are, it will never make it into the game... 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #13 Posted March 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said: There are so many nice real life naval battles, that could be placed into this game. Yet, WG doesnt seem to be interested in it. We had sososo many suggestions like this one over the years and WG pretty much reacted with... removing more and more scenarios, that we used to have. So dont get too excited over your idea, chances are, it will never make it into the game... Quite. To make even more frustrating, if possible, and anything is possible when it comes to WG (except getting what we want, it seems), there are those constant 'Battle events' that pop up in the calendar. You'd be excused for thinking how amazing it would be to have rotating scenarios, for instance, that are set to portray those historical battles and engagements.... but no, this is WG, so instead we get template grind missions where the only thing that rotates is the event label... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] NobleRipper Players 1,211 posts Report post #14 Posted March 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Jutland without carriers fine, with carriers... less so, though. Actually, Engadine was at Jutland and Campania nearly was 5 hours ago, lovelacebeer said: Sadly though we all know WGs stance on scenarios that apparently they are not popular enough to warrant developing or even bringing back the missing ones (makes me wonder what percentage of players actually play scenarios). I get the impression that the actual percentage of players that WG would require before they're willing to actually support the mode is always at least 1% more than the percentage of players playing Ops, regardless of what it happens to be. Seems like a lot less effort on their part to gradually stifle and quietly kill off the mode than put any effort into supporting it... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Figment Beta Tester 3,801 posts 10,499 battles Report post #15 Posted March 10, 2021 5 hours ago, lovelacebeer said: It would certainly be different and maybe a good way for people who are not that good at CV gameplay to enjoy it outside of coop. Sadly though we all know WGs stance on scenarios that apparently they are not popular enough to warrant developing or even bringing back the missing ones (makes me wonder what percentage of players actually play scenarios). The problem with scenarios is that nobody is going to play the same scenario 20 times in a row, as it's too much of the same thing. If they want to make scenario's popular, maybe they should survey players on what they'd like. Personally I'd love to see scenario's for each tier that are constantly available, not rotate in and out. If there's about 10-20 scenarios per tier (including tier I-4) with various difficulty ratings that are constantly available so you don't repeat the same thing over and over and there's a reasonable grouping facilitation (indicating how many players are available per tier, not just in your range). So something beyond automated matchmaker (which pretty much every MMO sucks at). Then I'm pretty sure it'd be fairly popular, more popular than coop surely. People would actually have an additional reason to play low tier ships and premiums beyond looking at it in port or seal clubbing. I mean, why would you get a tier II or III premium if you're never going to use it in anything remotely challenging? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkollUlfr Players 1,170 posts 6,026 battles Report post #16 Posted March 10, 2021 operations are subject to an destructive feedback loop generated by komrade spreadsheet and bad game mechanics. they are unpopular due to poor game mechanics and lack of choice therefore they see no development and are treated as a nuisance therefore they are unpopular due to poor game mechanics and lack of choice therefore they see no development and are treated as a nuisance therefore they are unpopular due to poor game mechanics and lack of choice therefore they see no development and are treated as a nuisance therefore they are unpopular due to poor game mechanics and lack of choice therefore they see no development and are treated as a nuisance therefore they are unpopular due to poor game mechanics and lack of choice 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] Johnny_Moneto Beta Tester 2,903 posts 22,225 battles Report post #17 Posted March 11, 2021 Vor 12 Stunden, marcopieroni16 sagte: there are plenty of battles in real life where only the carriers fought, other vessels were just an escort, so i would suggest an operation entirely for carriers, it can be the attack on pearl harbor, the bombardament of darwin, capo engano (kinda) , coral sea, midway, guadalcanal, santa cruz and much more........ the maximun would be, you guessed it , 6 carriers, from tier 6-8 . i think it would be really fun to see different squadrons for once, and not only my own planes........ coordination of attacks from air with different players sounds good to me, of course, in random MM it may not be easy, but in division......i think it would be really fun Dear Captain, thank you for your valuable feedback. We will closely monitor the situation and take appropriate steps if deemed necessary. Please understand that we cannot give you any feedback when and if we will apply those changes. Yours sincerely, Eric McConell, first class WG customer service bot. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #18 Posted March 11, 2021 WG stated multiple times, that operations take too much time and effort to justify the development (eg. there are not enough people playing them). Since they dont even bother with fixing the existing ones, you can just plain forget it. Nice try btw. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCBG] BrusilovX Beta Tester 2,838 posts 23,907 battles Report post #19 Posted March 11, 2021 WG has gone out of it's way to prove that operations are not popular. They withdrew a few around the time of the CV rework - Dunkirk and Cherry Blossom spring to mind. They also nerfed the rewards from Narai along with attempts to fix the AI pathfinding (which apparently was caused by the code used for CVs path finding). Narai was also taken out of circulation a few times along the way. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HALON] marcopieroni16 Players 114 posts 4,446 battles Report post #20 Posted March 11, 2021 2 ore fa, Johnny_Moneto ha scritto: Dear Captain, thank you for your valuable feedback. We will closely monitor the situation and take appropriate steps if deemed necessary. Please understand that we cannot give you any feedback when and if we will apply those changes. Yours sincerely, Eric McConell, first class WG customer service bot. ah ye ye of course dont worry. i was just curious to see if anyone would like it, or it was just me. np 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] guy_incognito79 Players 320 posts 5,605 battles Report post #21 Posted March 11, 2021 4 hours ago, nambr9 said: WG stated multiple times, that operations take too much time and effort to justify the development (eg. there are not enough people playing them). Since they dont even bother with fixing the existing ones, you can just plain forget it. Nice try btw. Or WG is afraid that if they double the number of ops and maybe set the rotation to every 3-4 days then large numbers of players will flee the degenerate gameplay in randoms that's caused by the CV plague and the utter failure that is deadeye... and that is a thought that give them nightmares. Or I could just be being unnecessarily cynical again.. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-STD-] NorShii Players 102 posts 1,516 battles Report post #22 Posted March 11, 2021 Maybe WG should find a way to capitalize off of Scenarios, maybe then the gamemode will receive some much needed love 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PONYS] Randschwimmer Players 3,934 posts 26,298 battles Report post #23 Posted March 11, 2021 Sehales said in german stream yesterday that they are not developing new operations because existing ops would be not popular... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #24 Posted March 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Randschwimmer said: Sehales said in german stream yesterday that they are not developing new operations because existing ops would be not popular... The problem is design. Most players get 5 stars and move on. Theres only a handful of players that keep returning to ops (in comparison to other pvp modes). Plus wg really doesn't want to shift players from pvp to pve... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-URK-] wot_2016_gunner Players 2,588 posts 6,830 battles Report post #25 Posted March 11, 2021 Proprio ora, nambr9 ha scritto: Theres only a handful of players that keep returning to ops (in comparison to other pvp modes). yeah, i already got 5 stars on all the current operations besides Newport ('cause that thing is a dumpsterfire), tho i still play them to farm stuff for missions, if possible (dmg, kills, whatever, as long as the mission allows it) as Operations are a much more reliable environment than Randoms 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
