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Just had an odd conversation during a tier 6 CoOp game. One of the battleship players was swearing at the match-maker because it had once again put him in a match with 3 destroyers (I was in an Icarus). They were rather annoyed and suggested (in quite strong terms) :

1. There should be matches without any destroyers.

2. Destroyers should all go and fight in their own. destroyer only battles.

3. All they do is charge and kill the battleships. because they are cowards and too scared to fight enemy destroyers.

I had been spotting an enemy battleship for him as we were the only 2 at the north of the map. I figured maybe he wasnt getting any kills so sailed south and left him to fight the bot battleship. Wierdly he sailed right past the enemy battleship and killed it but then sat in the enemy cap doing nothing the rest of the match.

 

I had always thought battleships wanted destroyers to push forward so they had vision. Hopefully he will stay in CoOp, I dont think he would enjoy Random.

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3 minutes ago, Gebbly said:

All they do is charge and kill the battleships. because they are cowards and too scared to fight enemy destroyers.

Apparently, he credits WG's bots with rather more complex motivations than the rest of us do...?

 

I wonder if he realises that he really isn't doing anything to disabuse the rest of us of the stereotypes that we may hold about BB players.

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Absolutely terrible idea. With nobody to spot it'd turn into a camp fest in no time flat.

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Just now, lafeel said:

Absolutely terrible idea. With nobody to spot it'd turn into a camp fest in no time flat.

Implying current gameplay isn't already a campfest. Having a competent DD or not is almost irrelevant for the behaviour of the average BB player. They will shoot the angled BB 20km away regardless of what has popped up on the minimap.

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19 minutes ago, Gebbly said:

Just had an odd conversation during a tier 6 CoOp game. One of the battleship players was swearing at the match-maker because it had once again put him in a match with 3 destroyers (I was in an Icarus). They were rather annoyed and suggested (in quite strong terms) :

1. There should be matches without any destroyers.

2. Destroyers should all go and fight in their own. destroyer only battles.

3. All they do is charge and kill the battleships. because they are cowards and too scared to fight enemy destroyers.

I had been spotting an enemy battleship for him as we were the only 2 at the north of the map. I figured maybe he wasnt getting any kills so sailed south and left him to fight the bot battleship. Wierdly he sailed right past the enemy battleship and killed it but then sat in the enemy cap doing nothing the rest of the match.

 

I had always thought battleships wanted destroyers to push forward so they had vision. Hopefully he will stay in CoOp, I dont think he would enjoy Random.

How about a mode where Asashio can face ony enemy BBs and no carriers?

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Vor 23 Minuten, Gebbly sagte:

1. There should be matches without any destroyers.

there are such coop matches, quite often in fact...

 

Vor 23 Minuten, Gebbly sagte:

3. All they do is charge and kill the battleships. because they are cowards and too scared to fight enemy destroyers.

if I play a DD in coop enemy bots are my first/prefered targets, they give the most xp...

 

Vor 24 Minuten, Gebbly sagte:

so they had vision.

bots open fire on max range and reveal themselfes as soon as possible, so imho spotting is not really an important task for DDs in coop

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1 hour ago, Gebbly said:

Just had an odd conversation during a tier 6 CoOp game. One of the battleship players was swearing at the match-maker because it had once again put him in a match with 3 destroyers (I was in an Icarus). They were rather annoyed and suggested (in quite strong terms) :

1. There should be matches without any destroyers.

 

If you basically just want to play COOP without DDs, check out the "Training Room". You can even create your own enemy team there... 

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3 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said:

 

If you basically just want to play COOP without DDs, check out the "Training Room". You can even create your own enemy team there... 

Even for some players that would end up with a battle too hard for them to win.  Even if they stacked the odds.

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This could work.

12 BBs on one side, one ship on the other.

But, it's a CV whose rocket planes have been upgraded to launch Harpoons, short range version of course.

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Imagine actually complainng about co-op. Which is the equivalent of a kiddies ball pit with padded protection everywhere. 

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5 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

Imagine actually complainng about co-op. Which is the equivalent of a kiddies ball pit with padded protection everywhere. 

 

Wuuut. No.

Coop isnt Kiddy Mode.

 

Coop was Implemented Especially to Accomodate Casual Players doing Directives and Missions without Annoying the Try Hard Players in Random.

 

After all. Would you want me doing Missions in Random where I have to Set Fires in my Battleship and thus keep Shelling the Belt Armor of an Enemy with HE Shells to get as many Fires as Possible without causing Damage to him ? ^^

 

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Conan the Destroyer says no.

 

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All of the classes have there share of special players.

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3 hours ago, lafeel said:

Absolutely terrible idea. With nobody to spot it'd turn into a camp fest in no time flat.

I can do that in a CV for you :Smile_trollface:

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2 hours ago, Molly_Delaney said:

But, it's a CV whose rocket planes have been upgraded to launch Harpoons, short range version of course.

Gal, sometimes you are outright naughty... :Smile_smile:

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BBs don't like DDs in a Co-Op battle as it is very easy for the non bot DDs to yolo the bot BBs and therefore deprive the non bot BBs any damage. I can imagine that is going for targets in Naval Battles, this can be distressing which is why our clan, if one is going for a BB target, go in threes with only one scoring as this concentrates the numbers of BBs in one area and lessens the chance of multiple DDs. I am afraid we sometimes do the same with one DD and two BBs so the DD has something to kill! Never thought about complaining about Co-Op though!!

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2 minutes ago, triumphgt6 said:

BBs don't like DDs in a Co-Op battle as it is very easy for the non bot DDs to yolo the bot BBs and therefore deprive the non bot BBs any damage. I can imagine that is going for targets in Naval Battles, this can be distressing which is why our clan, if one is going for a BB target, go in threes with only one scoring as this concentrates the numbers of BBs in one area and lessens the chance of multiple DDs. I am afraid we sometimes do the same with one DD and two BBs so the DD has something to kill! Never thought about complaining about Co-Op though!!

FTFY

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When I see BB main complaining I get this image in my head :)

 

 

 

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Let me guess. Guy was on slow battleship and he can't do too much dmg? Well, it's widely known that Coops are dmg race and faster can eat more. He definitely shouldn't see how TX Coops looks with all Shimas and Klebers if he rides Vermont.

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I thought the whole point of DDs was for the BBs to have someone to blame??? What would they do without them?

 

Anyway, you do get no DD matches from time to time, and FWIW i do think that BB free, and/or DD only matches could be a bit of a laugh.

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4 hours ago, lafeel said:

Absolutely terrible idea. With nobody to spot it'd turn into a camp fest in no time flat.

CoOp

Campfest...

Choose one of the two, as bots aren't really known for their camping ability...

:Smile_trollface:

 

On the other hand, whenever I do missions in a BB in CoOp there are occations that make me want to have a "no DD mode" option for CoOp. But usually I still get them missions done - even the "kill x ships.." ones - because there's so many potato DDs in CoOp who get a single suicide kill and go back to the harbour, leaving some targets for me in my BB to sink..

When I'm in a DD though...  :Smile_izmena::cap_rambo::Smile_medal::Smile_great:

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Co-op, a how-to guide :

-Play it 3 times a year to do silly missions

-Play it with a fast ship that has fast-reloading torpedoes so you can yolo all the bots before the other DDs can.

-Stare at the battleship in wonder and amazement as he is there unironically playing the game mode without shooting anything because everything is dead in 180 seconds.
-Repeat until silly missions are finished

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