[MEN] EnacheV Players 146 posts 2,112 battles Report post #1 Posted March 2, 2021 Game is nice i have an esthetical problem tough those low tier russian battleships are not really sea ships, they more like river ships, with 1 meter of height above the water line. they were called Monitors , after that american ship to fight in rivers that did 1 sea trip and end badly. why is that? 2 9 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #2 Posted March 2, 2021 Good luck putting them in rivers. If you said it about petro I'd understand....but c'mon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #3 Posted March 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, EnacheV said: Game is nice i have an esthetical problem tough those low tier russian battleships are not really sea ships, they more like river ships, with 1 meter of height above the water line. they were called Monitors , after that american ship to fight in rivers that did 1 sea trip and end badly. why is that? You do not know how small a meter is. Spot the people: Spoiler 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #4 Posted March 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: You do not know how small a meter is. Spot the people: Hide contents obviously they were giants or midgets ... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] ThePurpleSmurf Players 2,554 posts Report post #5 Posted March 2, 2021 If this bothers you already in low tiers, then this is not the game for you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunleader Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,710 posts 13,400 battles Report post #6 Posted March 2, 2021 I am almost certain there is some Translation issues here xD I just cant point out what it is ^^ 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #7 Posted March 2, 2021 Vor 1 Stunde, EnacheV sagte: those low tier russian battleships are not really sea ships This is pretty much true for all Russian battleships in this game, except for Gangut/Oktober... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-E] FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor Players 3,532 posts 29,240 battles Report post #8 Posted March 2, 2021 Vor 1 Stunde, EnacheV sagte: those low tier russian battleships are not really sea ships, they more like river ships, with 1 meter of height above the water line. they were called Monitors , after that american ship to fight in rivers that did 1 sea trip and end badly. why is that? It's a bit like doodling Lamborghinis with guns into your school notebooks to distract you from thinking about your actual car industry too much, which is busy manufacturing too few Ladas. I heard on Flamu's stream that a naval architect had done a few calculations and came to the conclusion that Kremlin as it is in the game would basically keel over and sink immediately all of its own, without any enemy action required. And he didn't even take into account the weight of those Stalinium reactors powering the turret traverse. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] EnacheV Players 146 posts 2,112 battles Report post #9 Posted March 2, 2021 1 hour ago, ThePurpleSmurf said: If this bothers you already in low tiers, then this is not the game for you. i see you run around trying to be a dck on all threads lol i think its time to use the ignore function 1 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] EnacheV Players 146 posts 2,112 battles Report post #10 Posted March 2, 2021 1 hour ago, ColonelPete said: You do not know how small a meter is. Spot the people: Reveal hidden contents how the real pictures look like is irrelevant what matters is how they look when you zoom in on them in game you just seea thin line and some turrets, like they are amphibious tanks 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #11 Posted March 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, EnacheV said: how the real pictures look like is irrelevant what matters is how they look when you zoom in on them in game you just seea thin line and some turrets, like they are amphibious tanks She looks the same in game... Spoiler 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #12 Posted March 2, 2021 Huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #13 Posted March 2, 2021 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MR2ND] Silver_Firebote Players 80 posts 2,568 battles Report post #14 Posted March 2, 2021 A short belt above the water was never a good thing. but since this game is a game and flooding from shell penetration was never a thing, it only serves as a tiny hitbox that u cant hit easily to get max damage .ships like pre dread- WW1 dreads and post WW1 ships all suffered the same problem, shell fly past them and hits the deck, rendering their role to intercept and eat shells useless. that's why pre-ww2/WW2 BBs tend to have a higher belt above and below water, for example KGV has a 7m belt from top to bottom, at least half of it sits above water. Scharnhorst is the worst among all, posting a less than 5 meter belt that most of it sinks below waterline, , it reduce the surface area presented of the belt to almost nothing at normal combat range, lets say 15000-10000m for Atlantic condition, at least 50-40% shot will hit the deck instead of the belt, rendering it almost useless, making the ship prone to penetration, leaks, unnecessary damage slamming the upperbelt etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #15 Posted March 2, 2021 2 hours ago, FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor said: It's a bit like doodling Lamborghinis with guns into your school notebooks to distract you from thinking about your actual car industry too much, which is busy manufacturing too few Ladas. I heard on Flamu's stream that a naval architect had done a few calculations and came to the conclusion that Kremlin as it is in the game would basically keel over and sink immediately all of its own, without any enemy action required. And he didn't even take into account the weight of those Stalinium reactors powering the turret traverse. I think its hilarious WG designed paper ships that wouldnt stay upright by themselves irl 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TADE] Unfortunate_Son Players 236 posts 29,562 battles Report post #16 Posted March 2, 2021 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria-class_ironclad "This class was one of the last of this period to have very low freeboard, of around 10 feet (3 m). This was done to reduce target area in a naval engagement but had a deleterious effect upon seaworthiness, and was an important factor in Victoria sinking within fifteen minutes following a collision since it allowed the water to quickly reach the gun turret ports." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #17 Posted March 2, 2021 2 hours ago, ColonelPete said: She looks the same in game... Dont buy his photoshopped, sovjet propaganda version! Everyone knows, Gangut really looks like this in game! 2 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #18 Posted March 2, 2021 31 minutes ago, Europizza said: I think its hilarious WG designed paper ships that wouldnt stay upright by themselves irl One should not believe everything you read on the internet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #19 Posted March 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: One should not believe everything you read on the internet. I'm reading this on the internet... 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #20 Posted March 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: I'm reading this on the internet... Then you should not believe it. But that would make it true... Oh boy. I hope nothing brakes. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEAM_] Dampfboot Players 1,367 posts 11,386 battles Report post #21 Posted March 2, 2021 4 hours ago, EnacheV said: Game is nice i have an esthetical problem tough those low tier russian battleships are not really sea ships, they more like river ships, with 1 meter of height above the water line. they were called Monitors , after that american ship to fight in rivers that did 1 sea trip and end badly. why is that? WG likes to build not sea-worthy ships to make them OP and then argue realism because a drunk Russian engineer dreamt it on a paper napkin which WG managed to get hold of. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #22 Posted March 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, Dampfboot said: WG likes to build not sea-worthy ships to make them OP and then argue realism because a drunk Russian engineer dreamt it on a paper napkin which WG managed to get hold of. Too bad the Gangut existed... And Pyotr is based on a german design by Blohm and Voss, and I am pretty sure they knew what they were doing... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #23 Posted March 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: and I am pretty sure they knew what they were doing... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #24 Posted March 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said: That is not a german design... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #25 Posted March 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: And Pyotr is based on a german design by Blohm and Voss, and I am pretty sure they knew what they were doing... Debatable, given some of the other things to come out of that yard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites