RANK BATTLES

[AdmiralTora]

I need to say something about the rank battles. I really love them, when it comes to the battle system 7 against 7.

 

But what I do not like is the the general system.

- There should be much more save ranks, so that you do not waste so many efforts.

- As I have seen in the German forum I also do not understand why lower tier like 6 of 7 are not included.

- and one of main points is, that 8 and 9tier are unbalanced as in the bronce league for instance

- whenever there is a Musashi on the one side and a player who knows to play it it becomes very difficult for the other side, that completely destroys the fun

- do not forget that many new players cannot get such a ship anymore, the same goes for Missouri, Alaska and several unbalanced DDs

- the same for many Russian/Soviet ships which are completely overrated, but this is also a general issue

- because of this I cannot really say that I am pretty much enjoying the system -I still love the battles though

- and do not forget, that players also have to face the fact, that appr. one third of the battles are lost because you end up in an low-performing team, to say it mildly

- there should be some mechanism, where the overrated ships should be banned or always be on both sides

- the last time tier 8 seemed to be ok, hence more balanced, but in silver league you also had to face the fact, that some battles got destroyed by the Smolensk

- so please regard this somehow in the your system, you will probably also see from your stats, that certain ships get through and others not, this should make you start to wonder

 

Cheers

 

[FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor]

Interesting typo in the title there.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rank#Adjective

[albin322]

29 minutes ago, AdmiralTora said:

- There should be much more save ranks, so that you do not waste so many efforts.

 

hell no there should be less to make it as hard as possible for the potatoes to reach higher ranks ! 

[Verblonde]

6 hours ago, AdmiralTora said:

There should be much more save ranks, so that you do not waste so many efforts.

I disagree: having fewer irrevocable ranks makes the event marginally more like a test of skill, rather than mere persistence.

 

Last season, I was able to qualify for Silver without having to try very hard, and I'm a sub-average player; fun as it was, it really was too easy...

[Spruss]

4 ore fa, AdmiralTora ha scritto:

I need to say something about the rank battles. I really love them, when it comes to the battle system 7 against 7.

 

But what I do not like is the the general system.

- There should be much more save ranks, so that you do not waste so many efforts.

- As I have seen in the German forum I also do not understand why lower tier like 6 of 7 are not included.

- and one of main points is, that 8 and 9tier are unbalanced as in the bronce league for instance

- whenever there is a Musashi on the one side and a player who knows to play it it becomes very difficult for the other side, that completely destroys the fun

- do not forget that many new players cannot get such a ship anymore, the same goes for Missouri, Alaska and several unbalanced DDs

- the same for many Russian/Soviet ships which are completely overrated, but this is also a general issue

- because of this I cannot really say that I am pretty much enjoying the system -I still love the battles though

 - and do not forget, that players also have to face the fact, that appr. one third of the battles are lost because you end up in an low-performing team, to say it mildly

 - there should be some mechanism, where the overrated ships should be banned or always be on both sides

 - the last time tier 8 seemed to be ok, hence more balanced, but in silver league you also had to face the fact, that some battles got destroyed by the Smolensk

- so please regard this somehow in the your system, you will probably also see from your stats, that certain ships get through and others not, this should make you start to wonder

 

Cheers

 

I kind of disagree.

 

- There should be much more save ranks, so that you do not waste so many efforts. 

Thus me not being a super unicum player i feel that there should be a distinction between different player skills. You should get to gold if you deserve, not if you play a lot. This first sprint went extremely well for me, but I truly applied to play it to my best. Ranked at least gives you the chance to play with and versus decent players instead of seeing the usual ton of one sided games.

 

- As I have seen in the German forum I also do not understand why lower tier like 6 of 7 are not included.

You can reach t6-7 in a few days, if you face more expert players with that low game knowledge you just get in a suicide booth.

 

- and one of main points is, that 8 and 9tier are unbalanced as in the bronce league for instance

Some silver ships can perform perfectly fine.

 

- whenever there is a Musashi on the one side and a player who knows to play it it becomes very difficult for the other side, that completely destroys the fun

True, a strong ship used by a strong player makes all the difference. Still it is a teamplay based game mode, a good Musashi is still counterable, plus it higly probable you get some OP ships on your side too.

 

- do not forget that many new players cannot get such a ship anymore, the same goes for Missouri, Alaska and several unbalanced DDs

Again, some silver ships can perform perfectly fine. Sure, if you get in fight with a Neptunish ship it's kind of common to see you dead without givinh an actual help to your team.

 

- because of this I cannot really say that I am pretty much enjoying the system -I still love the battles though

The system is made to make progress better players. It's fine, a rank should be a reward for skill, not for number of played games. Plus if you want to raise at all cost it is still possible.

 

  - and do not forget, that players also have to face the fact, that appr. one third of the battles are lost because you end up in an low-performing team, to say it mildly

There is still a huge skill gap between different players due to all being in bronze. This should be sorted out while season keeps going on. My qualifying games were very balanced, had luck to play them very early.

 

 - there should be some mechanism, where the overrated ships should be banned or always be on both sides

A ship is overrated in the right hands. Give me a Black and you will probably see a very poor perfomance despite it being very strong.

 

 - the last time tier 8 seemed to be ok, hence more balanced, but in silver league you also had to face the fact, that some battles got destroyed by the Smolensk

In silver you can play just tier 9 or 10. From qualifications up to gold just t10. Still an improvement, considering that in randoms you get frequently downtiered a lot.

 

- so please regard this somehow in the your system, you will probably also see from your stats, that certain ships get through and others not, this should make you start to wonder

Premiums have some better tools, I agree, but you can obtain them on almost all tiers and even if some are unavaiable there is still a plenty of choice between great ships at each tier. 

[159Hunter]

8 hours ago, AdmiralTora said:

I need to say something about the rank battles. I really love them, when it comes to the battle system 7 against 7.

 

But what I do not like is the the general system.

- There should be much more save ranks, so that you do not waste so many efforts.

These "safe ranks" should not exist AT ALL. That is the only way to players at their skill level. If every rank were a "safe rank" everyone could just farm their way to the next league. No thx.

8 hours ago, AdmiralTora said:

- As I have seen in the German forum I also do not understand why lower tier like 6 of 7 are not included.

Probably WG estimating that they can make more money with rankes being only high tiers.

8 hours ago, AdmiralTora said:

- and one of main points is, that 8 and 9tier are unbalanced as in the bronce league for instance

tier 8 - 9 go well together. If you feel tier 8 is inferior, then just pick a tier 9...

8 hours ago, AdmiralTora said:

- whenever there is a Musashi on the one side and a player who knows to play it it becomes very difficult for the other side, that completely destroys the fun

so a player who knows how to use his ship can't have more influence on the game? Having good players is already a rare sight, and now you are saying they shouldn't be able to carry?

8 hours ago, AdmiralTora said:

- do not forget that many new players cannot get such a ship anymore, the same goes for Missouri, Alaska and several unbalanced DDs

Which unbalanced DDs are you talking about? One of the best DDs at this level is the Jutland. I love the Lightning as well. Both are, imo, the best DDs at these tiers.

Missouri and Iowa are equal, yes the former has radar but you have to be an absolute donkey to get caught by that radar.

Musashi is special, just HE spam it / send a CV on it and it melts.

8 hours ago, AdmiralTora said:

- the same for many Russian/Soviet ships which are completely overrated, but this is also a general issue

So all ships are overrated?

8 hours ago, AdmiralTora said:

- because of this I cannot really say that I am pretty much enjoying the system -I still love the battles though

And because you have no fun you only played over 150 ranked battles in the last two weeks? Strange way to show you don't like them...

8 hours ago, AdmiralTora said:

- and do not forget, that players also have to face the fact, that appr. one third of the battles are lost because you end up in an low-performing team, to say it mildly

May I suggest that you take a deep look at your statistics... you are far below even the averga player. So in fact: you drag your teams down...

8 hours ago, AdmiralTora said:

- there should be some mechanism, where the overrated ships should be banned or always be on both sides

WG will not do this cause it messes with their income.

8 hours ago, AdmiralTora said:

- the last time tier 8 seemed to be ok, hence more balanced, but in silver league you also had to face the fact, that some battles got destroyed by the Smolensk

tier 8 OK? Sure man...

Smolensk destroying games? It's an annoying ship, if the team does not want to play ball, the Smolensk is useless.

8 hours ago, AdmiralTora said:

- so please regard this somehow in the your system, you will probably also see from your stats, that certain ships get through and others not, this should make you start to wonder

No you have a look at your stats and see why you don't make it through

[AdmiralTora]

Vor 9 Stunden, FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor sagte:

Interesting typo in the title there.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rank#Adjective

so what would be the correct tile then I kindly ask since English is not my native tongue..

[AdmiralTora]

To 159Hunter, read and understand  my text correctly... maybe more important in conservations then "analysing" the stats of others... ;)

[AdmiralTora]

Vor 5 Stunden, Spruss sagte:

I kind of disagree.

 

- There should be much more save ranks, so that you do not waste so many efforts. 

Thus me not being a super unicum player i feel that there should be a distinction between different player skills. You should get to gold if you deserve, not if you play a lot. This first sprint went extremely well for me, but I truly applied to play it to my best. Ranked at least gives you the chance to play with and versus decent players instead of seeing the usual ton of one sided games.

 

- As I have seen in the German forum I also do not understand why lower tier like 6 of 7 are not included.

You can reach t6-7 in a few days, if you face more expert players with that low game knowledge you just get in a suicide booth.

 

- and one of main points is, that 8 and 9tier are unbalanced as in the bronce league for instance

Some silver ships can perform perfectly fine.

 

- whenever there is a Musashi on the one side and a player who knows to play it it becomes very difficult for the other side, that completely destroys the fun

True, a strong ship used by a strong player makes all the difference. Still it is a teamplay based game mode, a good Musashi is still counterable, plus it higly probable you get some OP ships on your side too.

 

- do not forget that many new players cannot get such a ship anymore, the same goes for Missouri, Alaska and several unbalanced DDs

Again, some silver ships can perform perfectly fine. Sure, if you get in fight with a Neptunish ship it's kind of common to see you dead without givinh an actual help to your team.

 

- because of this I cannot really say that I am pretty much enjoying the system -I still love the battles though

The system is made to make progress better players. It's fine, a rank should be a reward for skill, not for number of played games. Plus if you want to raise at all cost it is still possible.

 

  - and do not forget, that players also have to face the fact, that appr. one third of the battles are lost because you end up in an low-performing team, to say it mildly

There is still a huge skill gap between different players due to all being in bronze. This should be sorted out while season keeps going on. My qualifying games were very balanced, had luck to play them very early.

 

 - there should be some mechanism, where the overrated ships should be banned or always be on both sides

A ship is overrated in the right hands. Give me a Black and you will probably see a very poor perfomance despite it being very strong.

 

 - the last time tier 8 seemed to be ok, hence more balanced, but in silver league you also had to face the fact, that some battles got destroyed by the Smolensk

In silver you can play just tier 9 or 10. From qualifications up to gold just t10. Still an improvement, considering that in randoms you get frequently downtiered a lot.

 

- so please regard this somehow in the your system, you will probably also see from your stats, that certain ships get through and others not, this should make you start to wonder

Premiums have some better tools, I agree, but you can obtain them on almost all tiers and even if some are unavaiable there is still a plenty of choice between great ships at each tier. 

well, not the time to answer to everything right now, but thx...well my main point is that not only Silver ships should perform well, and especially when many players cannot buy some of the old unbalanced ships ...here it would be great if the system would better regard this aspect... Musashis should always play against Musashis for example or something like this...you somehow should also be competitive with the normal ones. I think in tier 9 the variance is too big.

And why not giving tier 6 and 7 a try, you could also filter out some newbees by saying you need to have played a certain amount of games for instance.

 

And yes, it should not be only the number of games you have played when it comes to ranking. But save ranks are not this, you still need to reach them...generally a lot of players probably feel annoyed that they end up in a lift going up and down too much...it happened to me..for instance .I had won 7 games in a row and then lost 5 in a row... if you do not happen to have some of the unbalanced ships there is alot of uncertainty involved and not everybody has the time to test his/her luck so often...

 

[_DeathWing_]

11 hours ago, AdmiralTora said:

There should be much more save ranks, so that you do not waste so many efforts.

Stopped reading there. 

[AdmiralTora]

Vor 16 Minuten, _DeathWing_ sagte:

Stopped reading there. 

You are a tester of WOW????!!!, and all you are showing is arrogance....???!!! Good message for newbees or guys like me who have played a certain amount of battles. You are really helpful in developing the community, but I forgot the game is just for people who played it from the beginning, thx for letting me know!!!

[FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor]

Vor 2 Stunden, AdmiralTora sagte:

so what would be the correct tile then I kindly ask since English is not my native tongue..

They are caled Ranked Battles.

 

Cause, you know... that must be what the original Russian name for this mode probably translates into, literally.

And where it makes sense.

In Russian.

 

But don't worry. Whoever came up with that English word for it, is probably also not a native speaker of English.

[hellhound666]

imho there is nothing to do in ranked battles when one has wr of 43%

[YabbaCoe]

Před 12 hodinami AdmiralTora řekl/a:

I need to say something about the rank battles. I really love them, when it comes to the battle system 7 against 7.

 

But what I do not like is the the general system.

- There should be much more save ranks, so that you do not waste so many efforts.

- As I have seen in the German forum I also do not understand why lower tier like 6 of 7 are not included.

- and one of main points is, that 8 and 9tier are unbalanced as in the bronce league for instance

- whenever there is a Musashi on the one side and a player who knows to play it it becomes very difficult for the other side, that completely destroys the fun

- do not forget that many new players cannot get such a ship anymore, the same goes for Missouri, Alaska and several unbalanced DDs

- the same for many Russian/Soviet ships which are completely overrated, but this is also a general issue

- because of this I cannot really say that I am pretty much enjoying the system -I still love the battles though

- and do not forget, that players also have to face the fact, that appr. one third of the battles are lost because you end up in an low-performing team, to say it mildly

- there should be some mechanism, where the overrated ships should be banned or always be on both sides

- the last time tier 8 seemed to be ok, hence more balanced, but in silver league you also had to face the fact, that some battles got destroyed by the Smolensk

- so please regard this somehow in the your system, you will probably also see from your stats, that certain ships get through and others not, this should make you start to wonder

 

Cheers

 

So, which irrevocable ranks would you like to see in each league?

As it happened before, it is possible that in future Ranked will be on lower tiers. Also it is possible, that we will change the tier distribution per league

In third point you mean, that they shouldn't play together, as it should be just one tier battles?

IMO all those ships are really dependent on situation and on player' skill. Musashi can be strong, but also very vulnerable.

It is the same with plenty premium ships that were sold before, but are not in Armory or anyone else.

With overrated Soviet ships, what exactly do you have in mind?

Glad to see, that you enjoy those battles.

With banning ships, you mean in similar way, what will be in Clan Battles?

[MimosA_A]

If anything there should be less safe ranks. The point is to advance through skill and consistency, not to just grind game after game until you get it. If you can't get the few wins (and save a star here and there) in a row it takes to rank out, it's not the system being flawed, it's you running  into your skillcap.

[MimosA_A]

3 hours ago, AdmiralTora said:

To 159Hunter, read and understand  my text correctly... maybe more important in conservations then "analysing" the stats of others... ;)

Take your own advice and understand and read his text correctly.

 

The point of ranked is that it's a competitive gamemode where in principle consistently playing reasonably well is rewarded. If you're struggling, that's not because the system needs work.

[DFens_666]

19 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

So, which irrevocable ranks would you like to see in each league? 

 

I think it doesnt make sense, that from Bronze R5 to R1 you need 8 consecutive stars, which is more than Silver qualifier (5) or gold qualifier (7).

 

14 minutes ago, MimosA_A said:

If anything there should be less safe ranks. The point is to advance through skill and consistency, not to just grind game after game until you get it. If you can't get the few wins (and save a star here and there) in a row it takes to rank out, it's not the system being flawed, it's you running  into your skillcap.

 

Which doesnt make sense when WG is handing out 80% of the rewards for wins, not stars/ranks. So people can just yolo for their rewards without ever playing properly. Might aswell give them the stars ontop of it...

[159Hunter]

14 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

Which doesnt make sense when WG is handing out 80% of the rewards for wins, not stars/ranks. So people can just yolo for their rewards without ever playing properly. Might aswell give them the stars ontop of it...

That would mean that all potatoes rank out after one week. This leaves good players a potato free week to rank out as well. Can't have that. 

 

@op I read your rant quite well. You are blaming everything and everyone but yourself. 

[MimosA_A]

17 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

 

I think it doesnt make sense, that from Bronze R5 to R1 you need 8 consecutive stars, which is more than Silver qualifier (5) or gold qualifier (7).

  

 

Which doesnt make sense when WG is handing out 80% of the rewards for wins, not stars/ranks. So people can just yolo for their rewards without ever playing properly. Might aswell give them the stars ontop of it... 

I'm not saying the reward system is amazing. But more safe stars has nothing to do with the borked way of handing out rewards.

[AdmiralTora]

Vor 2 Stunden, YabbaCoe sagte:

So, which irrevocable ranks would you like to see in each league?

As it happened before, it is possible that in future Ranked will be on lower tiers. Also it is possible, that we will change the tier distribution per league

In third point you mean, that they shouldn't play together, as it should be just one tier battles?

IMO all those ships are really dependent on situation and on player' skill. Musashi can be strong, but also very vulnerable.

It is the same with plenty premium ships that were sold before, but are not in Armory or anyone else.

With overrated Soviet ships, what exactly do you have in mind?

Glad to see, that you enjoy those battles.

With banning ships, you mean in similar way, what will be in Clan Battles?

Well thx for the answer. Well I would suggest the old bronze system concerning irrevocable ranks. Well if you had the feeling that the 1rst ranked battles were too easy, I would prefer an increasement of the amount of stars instead. I know many people who are not really playing rank because of the danger ending up in a "lift", hence "just" wasting their time (many battles are still fun though). And of course I am talking about bronze or silver league. I can understand if their is a harder approach for a gold or platin league for the top players. I am also totally fine if I might not manage to reach the silver league in the first sprint or so.

One of the great things about the game is ship variety, which I really appreciate, but the problem is that in tier 9 the variance is a bit too high. And yes I have also already burned down some Musashis, but the problem is that I cannot get the ship and when I am choosing a BB the chances that the other side gets a Musashi is higher than for my own team. So I have asked myself why I should actually take BBs then. My feedback on this is that WOW should make the normal ships slightly stronger, also these ships should be somehow competitive, and that the system in choosing the teams should have a certain inner ranking for 9er or other tiers, in order to somehow get just team situations. This was the reason why I was suggesting a Musashi on both sides or even banning (but that might be too harsh). Hence something similar you actually do if someone chooses an 8 tier BB right now, because that guarantees you, that there will be also one in the other team. 

You already have the hard lift situation but then as well a high chance of ending in a more or less unfair battle. And this should be avoided. And this is the reason why many players who I know are not playing rank. Not to forget that sometimes one ends in a frustating lousy team and sometimes I might be even lousy myself in the perspective of top players. But I guess having several leagues kind of indicates that WOW is not only focussing on the top 1% of players, who have played the game from the very beginning and are having all these ships that newer community members cannot get.

 

Concerning Russian/Soviet ships I generally have the impression that these ships often belong to the top ships compared with other nations. Armour is often very high regarding higher tier BBs for instance. Good armour still can be their speciality but maybe the difference to other nations should not be too high. 

 

 

[YabbaCoe]

Před 1 hodinou AdmiralTora řekl/a:

Well thx for the answer. Well I would suggest the old bronze system concerning irrevocable ranks. Well if you had the feeling that the 1rst ranked battles were too easy, I would prefer an increasement of the amount of stars instead. I know many people who are not really playing rank because of the danger ending up in a "lift", hence "just" wasting their time (many battles are still fun though). And of course I am talking about bronze or silver league. I can understand if their is a harder approach for a gold or platin league for the top players. I am also totally fine if I might not manage to reach the silver league in the first sprint or so.

One of the great things about the game is ship variety, which I really appreciate, but the problem is that in tier 9 the variance is a bit too high. And yes I have also already burned down some Musashis, but the problem is that I cannot get the ship and when I am choosing a BB the chances that the other side gets a Musashi is higher than for my own team. So I have asked myself why I should actually take BBs then. My feedback on this is that WOW should make the normal ships slightly stronger, also these ships should be somehow competitive, and that the system in choosing the teams should have a certain inner ranking for 9er or other tiers, in order to somehow get just team situations. This was the reason why I was suggesting a Musashi on both sides or even banning (but that might be too harsh). Hence something similar you actually do if someone chooses an 8 tier BB right now, because that guarantees you, that there will be also one in the other team. 

You already have the hard lift situation but then as well a high chance of ending in a more or less unfair battle. And this should be avoided. And this is the reason why many players who I know are not playing rank. Not to forget that sometimes one ends in a frustating lousy team and sometimes I might be even lousy myself in the perspective of top players. But I guess having several leagues kind of indicates that WOW is not only focussing on the top 1% of players, who have played the game from the very beginning and are having all these ships that newer community members cannot get.

 

Concerning Russian/Soviet ships I generally have the impression that these ships often belong to the top ships compared with other nations. Armour is often very high regarding higher tier BBs for instance. Good armour still can be their speciality but maybe the difference to other nations should not be too high. 

 

 

So speaking about irrevocable ranks and stars in Bronze League, how would you suggest to do that exactly?

I think we have huge variety of different ships and classes on tiers VIII and IX. So you mostly meet Musashi as the main BB in those? what about Jean Bart for example? Also having the need of Musashi on both sides definitely wouldn't work and banning also doesn't have much sense in Ranked. In Clan Battles it is something different, there the individual performance can be adjusted to tactics of the Clan division. But here it depends on your particular performation.

 

Of course it can happen that one team wins just basically roflstomp other team, but this can happen to anyone in any battle. Your only DD make a mistake and is deleted in first minutes, after that entire team lost spotting option and have huge disadvantage. How can you assure, that teams will be equal, so battles would be fair?

[DFens_666]

27 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

So speaking about irrevocable ranks and stars in Bronze League, how would you suggest to do that exactly? 

 

In the test season there was a saferank at R3 in bronze, not sure why that was removed.

[Verblonde]

3 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

So, which irrevocable ranks would you like to see in each league?

On approach that you might take, I suppose, if you want to avoid making poor players feel bad (which is what this is really about: I Ranked out of Bronze easily in the first season, and only got to about R3 - I think - in the first sprint this time around, with a similar amount of effort*) would be to revert to something like the first season for the irrevocable ranks, but to make the actual qualification for Silver much harder, in proportion.

• Less complaining, because we forty-something percenters get our R1 star (and rewards).
• Silver should remain about as potato-free as it it does with the present system.
• Down-side: you effectively eliminate Bronze as a remotely meaningful exercise in skill, if you do this, as only the most incompetent won't make R1 if they want to.

Personally, I think it should be quite hard for a player of my ability (48%+ overall WR) to get out of Bronze, so I wouldn't change much (besides, maybe tweaking slightly the exact distribution of wins-in-a-row you need to get to R1 in Bronze), at least as long as Ranked is supposed to provide a measure of skill.

 

 

*For emphasis: I'm not complaining about this, it is simply a reflection of my not being good enough (and/or bloody-minded enough) for this season.

[GarrusBrutus]

3 hours ago, MimosA_A said:

I'm not saying the reward system is amazing. But more safe stars has nothing to do with the borked way of handing out rewards.

Safe stars have everything to do with the borked way of handing out rewards. A player who afk's hundreds of ranked battles each season (yes, we've all seen and reported them and they are still here) gets the same rewards as a super unicum player who carries each team he is on, because of those safe ranks. If there werent any safe ranks, playing bad wouldn't yield rewards as you would (almost) never rank out. Sadly right now it's a very legit strategy for poor players. 

[YabbaCoe]

Před 42 minutami DFens_666 řekl/a:

 

In the test season there was a saferank at R3 in bronze, not sure why that was removed.

Probably it was too safe zone there with so many irrevocable ranks. Even in Bronze still it is Ranked, so you have to show your skills.

 

Před 33 minutami Verblonde řekl/a:

On approach that you might take, I suppose, if you want to avoid making poor players feel bad (which is what this is really about: I Ranked out of Bronze easily in the first season, and only got to about R3 - I think - in the first sprint this time around, with a similar amount of effort*) would be to revert to something like the first season for the irrevocable ranks, but to make the actual qualification for Silver much harder, in proportion.

• Less complaining, because we forty-something percenters get our R1 star (and rewards).
• Silver should remain about as potato-free as it it does with the present system.
• Down-side: you effectively eliminate Bronze as a remotely meaningful exercise in skill, if you do this, as only the most incompetent won't make R1 if they want to.

Personally, I think it should be quite hard for a player of my ability (48%+ overall WR) to get out of Bronze, so I wouldn't change much (besides, maybe tweaking slightly the exact distribution of wins-in-a-row you need to get to R1 in Bronze), at least as long as Ranked is supposed to provide a measure of skill.

 

 

*For emphasis: I'm not complaining about this, it is simply a reflection of my not being good enough (and/or bloody-minded enough) for this season.

Even bronze league should remain some skill-based and not just exercise as you mentioned. That is why in my opinion, irrevocable ranks should stay the same, to have it a little difficult, as everybody need to show off those skills to be able to jump through ranks.