zmeul Beta Tester 116 posts 10,539 battles Report post #1 Posted May 30, 2015 right off the bat I will say that my expectations were not met - I am rather disappointed in World of Warships I expected the gameplay to be more in line with the great BattleStations series ... just after few matches, the reality sinks ... this game is not it WoWs is very basic, it's extremely basic in fact - there is no tactics; the direction you chose to go at the very start of the match seals your fate the maps have an un-natural scale to them, playing from batleships, to cruisers and destroyers - the most odd thing that playing destroyers (the fastest ships in the game) actually feel the slowest of them all the land masses are out of place - they are very unnatural scaled to the scope of the battlefield area itself I really hoped WoWs to be the great white wale .. it is not, sadly --- to make matter worse, WG have overhyped the game to extremes, they gave youtubers and twitch streamers unfeathered access to the game and left out to dry people that wanted to play test this thing word of warning - watching some youtuber play the game and actually playing the game for yourself is a very very very different experience seriously, I'm glad I resisted the urge to buy my way in the CBT - would've been a terrible mistake 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] Yorkie_GBR Beta Tester 331 posts 3,883 battles Report post #2 Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) I expected the gameplay to be more in line with the great BattleStations series ... This is where you failed. Any WG product is going to be arcady, that is what WG does. But is does get better, especially when you come out of carebear mode Once you accept what the game is then your other points gain merit also, yes the scale of the maps and the landmasses et al. Edited May 30, 2015 by Yorkie_GBR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[3549] Phantombeast Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester, Sailing Hamster 777 posts Report post #3 Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) Dear zmeul, sorry to hear that, but I happend to notice that you have only played one game in PVP so far. All the others were against bots, which is hardly much fun in the long run. Maybe your second impression will get better ones you start playing the random battles. Kind regards Edited May 30, 2015 by Phantombeast 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zmeul Beta Tester 116 posts 10,539 battles Report post #4 Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) This is where you failed. Any WG product is going to be arcady, that is what WG does. this is where you failed, because I never claimed BattleStations to be anything but an arcade type game - BattleStations was never a sim and no one ever claimed otherwise; so, clearly you haven't played any of the games in the series but I happend to notice that you have only played one game in PVP so far yes, because the queues are insane - very few people are playing and those who do play are in bot matches and, btw .. it doesn't change one bit my evaluation of the game mechanics - to note, I never touched the subject of PvP; because PvP does nothing but replace bots for humans Edited May 30, 2015 by zmeul 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slo_Mo_Shun Beta Tester 362 posts 826 battles Report post #5 Posted May 30, 2015 Its always a shame when people don't get what they expect out of a game. At least you have not lost any money as you say you didn't "buy in". I guess the only observation I can make is that this is still in closed beta and from what I have read on this forum is that we are at least a year away from open beta let alone the released game. I would just put it down to experience and move on to something new. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] Yorkie_GBR Beta Tester 331 posts 3,883 battles Report post #6 Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) this is where you failed, because I never claimed BattleStations to be anything but an arcade type game - BattleStations was never a sim and no one ever claimed otherwise; so, clearly you haven't played any of the games in the series yes, because the queues are insane - very few people are playing and those who do play are in bot matches and, btw .. it doesn't change one bit my evaluation of the game mechanics - to note, I never touched the subject of PvP; because PvP does nothing but replace bots for humans You came into the game with a preconception and it has failed to live upto that, that is what I meant by "This is where you failed" The reference to the Arcade tie in with the maps sizes and landmasses rather than the comparison between the two games. As the next lines I wrote go on to agree with you. I am glad that you did not buy into the game, because some people who do have a disease called self entitlement. You don't like the game and that's fine, nothing you wrote is a whine into itself unlike others who bought into the the game. Edited May 30, 2015 by Yorkie_GBR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[3549] Phantombeast Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester, Sailing Hamster 777 posts Report post #7 Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) yes, because the queues are insane - very few people are playing and those who do play are in bot matches and, btw .. it doesn't change one bit my evaluation of the game mechanics - to note, I never touched the subject of PvP; because PvP does nothing but replace bots for humans I don't know when was the last time you tried PVP?! There are actually no queues since CBT began ... and most people play PVP. This statement is just wrong. Edited May 30, 2015 by Phantombeast 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NIKE] Xevious_Red Beta Tester 3,412 posts 7,888 battles Report post #8 Posted May 30, 2015 What I don't understand is that you haven't actually really played it. You've played 30 odd games in the bot mode, which is essentially the training mode. The bot ships don't have any skill, are incredibly easy and generally have no co-ordination. Like many games, the starting equipment (in this case ships) is pretty basic - the more complicated and exciting stuff comes later. If you've played for example a racing game you never start with a ferrari they always give you a morris minor or whatever. If you can make your mind up about a game based on some games in the practise mode and 1 "real" game then fair enough. Personally I give things a bit more time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damo74 Beta Tester 704 posts 2,459 battles Report post #9 Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) I am glad that you did not buy into the game, because people who do have a disease called self entitlement With all due respect, [edited] Edited May 31, 2015 by BigBadVuk This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to inappropriate content. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Userext Beta Tester 5,342 posts 2,957 battles Report post #10 Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) With all due respect, [edited] he is talking about those threads such as "unsatisfied customer" Edited May 31, 2015 by BigBadVuk 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEEF] Purple_Alert Beta Tester 273 posts 6,961 battles Report post #11 Posted May 30, 2015 You came into the game with a preconception and it has failed to live upto that, that is what I meant by "This is where you failed" The reference to the Arcade tie in with the maps sizes and landmasses rather than the comparison between the two games. As the next lines I wrote go on to agree with you. I am glad that you did not buy into the game, because people who do have a disease called self entitlement. You don't like the game and that's fine, nothing you wrote is a whine into itself unlike others who bought into the the game. I'm sorry. Because I paid some of my hard earned money for a ship pack to get in that makes me a disease ridden self entitlement whore? We obviously weren't all as lucky as you who obviously had a beta key delivered by an angel riding a unicorn down a rainbow from heaven. No I gladly paid to get in so my money can be used to fund the game development so freeloaders like yourself can get in and insult me on the forums. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vogel Alpha Tester 2,062 posts 4,171 battles Report post #12 Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) To the OP: I think you are mostly disappointed over your own hype. WG hasn't actually been that bad (as in teasing people) with short gameplay footages and the like, so I wouldn'tcall it massively hyped. And all the games I've seen of youtubers have pretty much been representative of actual gameplay. Besides, you have to leap into PvP to play it properly. The bots are way too accurate, has very random situational awareness and are generally not fun to play against. Once you are over the basics, then you can start to learn how to abuse viewrange as a DD, angle your armour between salvoes as a BB and ....juggle your distance as a CA. I find it more fun than WoT ATM, but that might be because it is fresh. But I have been through three wipes already, so that might not be it either . Just give it some time in PvP, and see if it improves then. EDIT: @above: Please don't insult every tester across the board because of one rude individual. Edited May 30, 2015 by Vogel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBF-] dan_can Alpha Tester 467 posts 2,316 battles Report post #13 Posted May 30, 2015 WoWs is very basic, it's extremely basic in fact - there is no tactics; the direction you chose to go at the very start of the match seals your fate Apart from the damage control system (assigning your repair crew to fix fires, floods, engine failures etc.) the actual combat gameplay is even more basic than WoWs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vogel Alpha Tester 2,062 posts 4,171 battles Report post #14 Posted May 30, 2015 Forgot to mention: The minimap is the single most important tool at your disposal. In WoT you can get away of realising the enemy tactic straight before the capping siren starts. In WoWs, you have to plan 5 mins into the future. Don't encounter any particular resistance on your course and see indicators of an enemy battlegroup somewhere? Then it's time to tke action. Most defeats are due to the "lemming train" behaviour in WoT, but here you don't have the speed to push through quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brainfear1 Beta Tester 241 posts 1,258 battles Report post #15 Posted May 30, 2015 I'm sorry. Because I paid some of my hard earned money for a ship pack to get in that makes me a disease ridden self entitlement whore? We obviously weren't all as lucky as you who obviously had a beta key delivered by an angel riding a unicorn down a rainbow from heaven. No I gladly paid to get in so my money can be used to fund the game development so freeloaders like yourself can get in and insult me on the forums. So i am a freeloader as wel? Good to know.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BW-UK] Yorkie_GBR Beta Tester 331 posts 3,883 battles Report post #16 Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) he is talking about those threads such as "unsatisfied customer" This I'm sorry. Because I paid some of my hard earned money for a ship pack to get in that makes me a disease ridden self entitlement whore? We obviously weren't all as lucky as you who obviously had a beta key delivered by an angel riding a unicorn down a rainbow from heaven. No I gladly paid to get in so my money can be used to fund the game development so freeloaders like yourself can get in and insult me on the forums. I paid in but obviously your money was harder earned than mine, if you want to go down that route. I also stand with my original meaning that people who post threads thinking they are entitled to a game in beta with no issues. Edited May 30, 2015 by Yorkie_GBR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-CC-] Djerin Beta Tester 312 posts Report post #17 Posted May 31, 2015 IBecause I paid some of my hard earned money for a ship pack to get in that makes me a disease ridden self entitlement whore? I think you misunderstand who pays who in the business of prositution. Besides the point the dude made is right. People who paid to get in are misunderstanding something quite often. They didn't pay to get a say on how the game should be. They paid to get a ship, some gold and access to testing. They are entitled to nothing more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBamBamx Beta Tester 295 posts 65 battles Report post #18 Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) OP- your original post made me laugh. A lot of whats already been said makes your view completely and utterly wrong on every level that im not even going to bother explaining why. All I will say is that you need to uninstall and try the game when its finished? Were not even close to release, were not even in open Beta lol. Anyways thanks for your constructive opinion and good luck with whatever you decide to play. Edited May 31, 2015 by _SeamanStaines_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpyWorm Alpha Tester 3,274 posts 832 battles Report post #19 Posted May 31, 2015 Moved Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zmeul Beta Tester 116 posts 10,539 battles Report post #20 Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) yeah .. played a bit more, this time PvP, and it got worse let me explain: U.S. DDs - what's their deal!?!? they good at nothing in particular, wait behind some cruiser or battleship to catch attention from the enemy and sprint towards them - that's it! no area denial like Japanese ones can; if I recall, some US cruisers have better torp ranges the Kawachi .. oh man this ship needs to be taken into to the woods and shot!! the horror in the situation is that you absolutely have to use it to unlock the tier 4 BB and the carrier and now the biggest one: the BigWorld engine pile of poop - Jesus H Christ WarGaming! it's been 5 (!!) years since you're working with this engine and instead of actually fixing it (multithreaded, maybe some DX11) you added worthless shiny effects to it; porting it to DX12 ?!?! .. I'm seriously afraid you don't actually know how the game just jumps up and down from 60+ to 12 FPS like a toddler after a bag of candy - it's incredible! but I'm actually staring at the FPS counter and there it is, a living nightmare ..... it was a huge issue when WoWp was in BETA and it was clear as the water surrounding Cook Islands that the engine was out of it's capability and yet, WG persisted - the result .. quite surprised WoWp still lives aiming and getting used to the general feeling of the gameplay - not a problem what's the problem? the people playing the game - they have the same mentality as the WoT players - sheep! they see some fat juicy target - like flies on pile of stink; ignoring what's going around them other problems: switching from ship to ship or trough out the sub-menus in the dock is very laggy; quite annoying why the repair crew is called the repair "party" 4 classes per nation, and yet, only 3 slots / nation - WHY!? I want to play test carriers, but i have to get rid of something else I can't stress this enough - I pat myself on the back for not buying my way in Edited May 31, 2015 by zmeul Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ASHEN] Zaods Beta Tester 581 posts 2,656 battles Report post #21 Posted May 31, 2015 U.S. DDs - what's their deal!?!? they good at nothing in particular, wait behind some cruiser or battleship to catch attention from the enemy and sprint towards them - that's it! no area denial like Japanese ones can; if I recall, some US cruisers have better torp ranges are you kidding me ? us DDs are the ultimate Dd hunters and if you are good and know the game you can keep on shooting with your guns remaining undetected and with the current HE mecanics and damage they can put a lot of damage onto larger vessels just by using the guns Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zmeul Beta Tester 116 posts 10,539 battles Report post #22 Posted May 31, 2015 are you kidding me ? us DDs are the ultimate Dd hunters and if you are good and know the game you can keep on shooting with your guns remaining undetected and with the current HE mecanics and damage they can put a lot of damage onto larger vessels just by using the guns torp range 4.5Km / detectability range ~6Km - you do the math Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ASHEN] Zaods Beta Tester 581 posts 2,656 battles Report post #23 Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) torp range 4.5Km / detectability range ~6Km - you do the math i didn't say use torps you genius i said shooting you don't shoot torps you launch them this just goes to show how much you know about the game the strongest feature of us DD lies in the fast firing guns Edited May 31, 2015 by Zaods Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lynild Beta Tester 8 posts 2,828 battles Report post #24 Posted May 31, 2015 damn easy boy it is a game not life. sorry am laughing too much about this low tier stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zmeul Beta Tester 116 posts 10,539 battles Report post #25 Posted May 31, 2015 Zaods, on 31 May 2015 - 05:01 PM, said: i didn't say use torps you genius i said shooting you don't shoot torps you launch them this just goes to show how much you know about the game the strongest feature of us DD lies in the fast firing guns so .. why wouldn't I use a cruiser, like St Luis, who has a whole lot more guns Lynild, on 31 May 2015 - 05:07 PM, said: damn easy boy it is a game not life. sorry am laughing too much about this low tier stuff sorry to bother you, I startled playing the game like ~24H+ ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites