[BABBY] Snowy_a Players 91 posts 4,795 battles Report post #1 Posted February 25, 2021 I am at the Charles Martel but after looking at the Henri I dont see much reason to continue. You dont get much beside AP pen and HE but battleships scale their armor too. It looks pretty bad trade for 2 tiers increase am I wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #2 Posted February 25, 2021 IMHO not really, she was great once now only mediocre Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #3 Posted February 25, 2021 I don't really think she is. I mean I have yet to try her out after commander rework, maybe a lighthouse build, but meh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Nov_A Beta Tester 1,292 posts 13,123 battles Report post #4 Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, piritskenyer said: I don't really think she is. I mean I have yet to try her out after commander rework, maybe a lighthouse build, but meh. I heard this the second time already in combination with the Henri, what the hecc is a lighthouse build? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #5 Posted February 25, 2021 Probably no concealment build Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #6 Posted February 25, 2021 Just now, Nov_A said: I heard this the second time already in combination with the Henri, what the hecc is a lighthouse build? A lighthouse build is essentially a build that forgoes all concealment, sometimes even stacking anti-concealment skills (like heavy HE/SAP) and taking advantage of the Master Gunner (or whatever the [edited]it's called, leftmost T4 skill) skill for a near constant 8% reload buff. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #7 Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Nov_A said: what the hecc is a lighthouse build? When you ditch concealment completly and go for maximum dpm. Henri Concealment then is... 21,x km? Someone correct me if im wrong. Its hillariously high anyway. on topic: Henri is still awesome. Laser guns, massive pen, you can citadel cruisers on maximum range easily. dpm is crazy and you can dodge a lot of incoming fire. Nothing really has changed for Henri with the captain rework. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #8 Posted February 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said: When you ditch concealment completly and go for maximum dpm. Henri Concealment then is... 21,x km? Someone correct me if im wrong. Its hillariously high anyway. on topic: Henri is still awesome. Laser guns, massive pen, you can citadel cruisers on maximum range easily. dpm is crazy and you can dodge a lot of incoming fire. Nothing really has changed for Henri with the captain rework. Nothing really changed for cruisers. On the other hand BBs got more accurate to blapp them ... and HIV likes to get blapped. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #9 Posted February 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said: When you ditch concealment completly and go for maximum dpm. Henri Concealment then is... 21,x km? Someone correct me if im wrong. Its hillariously high anyway. on topic: Henri is still awesome. Laser guns, massive pen, you can citadel cruisers on maximum range easily. dpm is crazy and you can dodge a lot of incoming fire. Nothing really has changed for Henri with the captain rework. I'm gonna be honest, I had Henri only for a couple of games pre rework, after they nerfed her and I wasn't terribly impressed. It was only a handful of games, usually ending up doing a boatload of damage, one or two kills, but usually losing, so I'm no authority on the ship, but I was not impressed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPURD] Itwastuesday Players 1,768 posts 13,575 battles Report post #10 Posted February 25, 2021 I find it a very annoying target to kill, which to me translates into it's good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #11 Posted February 25, 2021 No concealment is fun. I would get Venezia or one of the russian lines if I was grinding one cruiser line. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #12 Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, nambr9 said: On the other hand BBs got more accurate for blapping them ... and HIV likes to get blapped. Well that kinda goes for all cruisers. I have other cruisers in mind, that are now more prone to get deleted thx to dead eye - like Hindenburg, Goliath or Minotaur. With Henri atleast you can keep your distance and be effective. 1 minute ago, piritskenyer said: I'm gonna be honest, I had Henri only for a couple of games pre rework, after they nerfed her and I wasn't terribly impressed. It was only a handful of games, usually ending up doing a boatload of damage, one or two kills, but usually losing, so I'm no authority on the ship, but I was not impressed. Imo, Henri is one of those ships, that thrives in a division (or from teamplay in general, which is successfully removed from the brains of most players). Have your DD spot the enemy DD and have your reload booster ready or focus the same BB target with HE spam, when you have a second or even third HE slinger with you. Else.. you are locked down in your role as a long-range HE farmer and your impact isnt that great, thats true. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #13 Posted February 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said: [...] Imo, Henri is one of those ships, that thrives in a division (or from teamplay in general, which is successfully removed from the brains of most players). Have your DD spot the enemy DD and have your reload booster ready or focus the same BB target with HE spam, when you have a second or even third HE slinger with you. Else.. you are locked down in your role as a long-range HE farmer and your impact isnt that great, thats true. That was my mistake right there... I was trying to play it solo, which I think I really shouldn't do past... Say T8. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hirohito Players 1,717 posts 6,192 battles Report post #14 Posted February 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, piritskenyer said: That was my mistake right there... I was trying to play it solo, which I think I really shouldn't do past... Say T8. I have the same experience with her, she really doesn't carry well in randoms. Even if you don't run an anti-concealment build, her concealment is still atrocious so most of the time you will be in the backline slinging HE, which isn't really effective at the end of the day. She just rusts in my port right now for that reason. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] The_Chiv Players 1,592 posts 18,060 battles Report post #15 Posted February 25, 2021 Heri is good, but it requires a bit more skill then most cruisers. Personally I love the ship as its speed and agility plus range makes damage mitigation against deadeye a bit easier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #16 Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Hirohito said: I have the same experience with her, she really doesn't carry well in randoms. Even if you don't run an anti-concealment build, her concealment is still atrocious so most of the time you will be in the backline slinging HE, which isn't really effective at the end of the day. She just rusts in my port right now for that reason. I think most Cruisers without radar have that issue. Hindi, Zao, Venezia, they are only effective dealing damage. Even if Venezia can deal tons of damage to DDs, someone still need to spot that DD, same as for any other Cruiser. Id still prefer playing Henri over Hindi or Zao these days. Hindi simply doesnt have any AP performance over longer ranges, and Henris HE is imo stronger (AP anyway). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kapnobathrac Players 506 posts Report post #17 Posted February 26, 2021 Bought it and sold it. I'll take Hindi any time of the day over Henri Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #18 Posted February 26, 2021 28 minutes ago, kapnobathrac said: Bought it and sold it. I'll take Hindi any time of the day over Henri You don't want a supercontainer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #19 Posted February 26, 2021 23 minutes ago, SV_Kompresor said: You don't want a supercontainer? U mean 50 useless camos/flags? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #20 Posted February 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Yedwy said: U mean 50 useless camos/flags? It's better than having none 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-FF-] elblancogringo Players 1,207 posts 7,342 battles Report post #21 Posted February 26, 2021 Is it still worth playing Henri with concealment build or is this lighthouse build the only way to go now since commander rework? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #22 Posted February 26, 2021 10 hours ago, ForlornSailor said: When you ditch concealment completly and go for maximum dpm. Henri Concealment then is... 21,x km? Someone correct me if im wrong. Its hillariously high anyway. and only 200 meters higher main battery range :) 21.8km of concealment and 22km with range module :) that is basically %8 dispersion buff... If you feel brave enough 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] The_Chiv Players 1,592 posts 18,060 battles Report post #23 Posted February 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, elblancogringo said: Is it still worth playing Henri with concealment build or is this lighthouse build the only way to go now since commander rework? I tried the lighthouse build was very uncomfortable but playable for me. Going typical conceal build and playing it more like a open water gunboat dd however HELLA fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #24 Posted February 26, 2021 33 minutes ago, elblancogringo said: Is it still worth playing Henri with concealment build or is this lighthouse build the only way to go now since commander rework? Yeah I dont use that build anywhere .... i like my cruisers to go close late game.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #25 Posted February 26, 2021 Currently sits in my port rusting. Far more interesting crusiers at tier 10 which can impact the game more. Just don't think it very versatile in a place where crusiers are having a hard time. It's still a good ship which is good at damage farming, but it doesn't have the style for me to really impact games IMHO. Just so many damage farmers in this game now that it doesn't stand out as much. Your just as bad as some BB players spamming at the back, like the Hindy now. Heavy and light Crusiers should always be supporting DDs in some form (light for anti DD and heavy for anti light crusiers trying to support their DD). But even WG have screwed that up now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
