Clan Battles: "Greece" Season

[The_EURL_Guy]

Clan Battles Season 12—Greece—kicks off during Update 0.10.1.

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[SPIDERBAIT]

Do we know what ships will be limited and which ships will be unavailable yet? Or are the examples what will be implemented for the first week or 2?

[redlockk]

Do we get some dooblons back if they ban my ship and i use dooblons to retrain  capitan.i dont think its fair to grab dooblons now when we lack of elite points. I beleve all of US we use all elite points to reach 21 .what is wg doing to help us ? .....................🥴

[konean]

1 hour ago, SPIDERBAIT said:

Do we know what ships will be limited and which ships will be unavailable yet? Or are the examples what will be implemented for the first week or 2?

Bans will start after the second week. After the two weeks It can pretty much change every week or a ship might be even banned for the whole season, everything is possible since WG gave them pretty much a free hand.

[Chocan]

1 hour ago, redlockk said:

Do we get some dooblons back if they ban my ship and i use dooblons to retrain  capitan.i dont think its fair to grab dooblons now when we lack of elite points. I beleve all of US we use all elite points to reach 21 .what is wg doing to help us ? .....................🥴

They will not give back anything in this case as you were able to play those ships for the first two week, and may be able to play them again during the season.

 

So don't spend doublons on this.

[redlockk]

1 minute ago, Chocan said:

They will not give back anything in this case as you were able to play those ships for the first two week, and may be able to play them again during the season.

 

So don't spend doublons on this.

I know they dont care  im aware of that. All i want is to make them(wg) notice is such a bad  choice to implement now this changes when we all strugle to raise capitans  . 

[ZeroSkillPureLuck]

Black should be banned from the beginning...

[Zigiran]

2 hours ago, konean said:

Bans will start after the second week. After the two weeks It can pretty much change every week or a ship might be even banned for the whole season, everything is possible since WG gave them pretty much a free hand.

Where did you find this info?

[Zigiran]

WG: you removed the free captain respecs from CB's because CV's were added so we could use our AA captains from randoms in CB's.

However, you now removed CV's from this CB season.

 

I asume this means we get a free captain respec at the end of this season to respec all your T9 captains (that we now specced out of AA for the CB season) back into AA spec for randoms?

[300ConfirmedKills]

There are no CVs in this season. Where are the free captain re-specs, as there were in previous seasons CVs were excluded from?

[YabbaCoe]

Před 18 hodinami SPIDERBAIT řekl/a:

Do we know what ships will be limited and which ships will be unavailable yet? Or are the examples what will be implemented for the first week or 2?

Unfortunately not yet. Those limited ship will be visible after clicking the tooltip. Those examples were placed just for explanation.

 

Před 16 hodinami konean řekl/a:

Bans will start after the second week. After the two weeks It can pretty much change every week or a ship might be even banned for the whole season, everything is possible since WG gave them pretty much a free hand.

This is not entirely true. In the article we mentioned: For example, they can be set after the first 2 weeks of a season, then replaced with different restrictions a few weeks later.  Which means that implementation of those restrictions can happen after two weeks, or later etc. Basically when we will see, that for example Kitakaze is has higher numbers than any other ship, she can be restricted

 

Před 17 hodinami redlockk řekl/a:

Do we get some dooblons back if they ban my ship and i use dooblons to retrain  capitan.i dont think its fair to grab dooblons now when we lack of elite points. I beleve all of US we use all elite points to reach 21 .what is wg doing to help us ? .....................🥴

Unfortunately there is nothing planned for this. Those restrictions can happen to any ship - tech tree, premium or special ships. I understand, that you are trying to get 21p commanders as soon as possible, but it is your decision, where exactly you will spend your Elite Commander XP, so we can't really revert that.

 

Před 11 hodinami 300ConfirmedKills řekl/a:

There are no CVs in this season. Where are the free captain re-specs, as there were in previous seasons CVs were excluded from?

Nothing announced or planned regarding this, but we will keep close eye on this and in the case, we would change something, we will let you know.

[konean]

1 hour ago, YabbaCoe said:

This is not entirely true. In the article we mentioned: For example, they can be set after the first 2 weeks of a season, then replaced with different restrictions a few weeks later.  Which means that implementation of those restrictions can happen after two weeks, or later etc. Basically when we will see, that for example Kitakaze is has higher numbers than any other ship, she can be restricted

I know, thats how understand it. But considering all things I would be very suprised if we dont see bans right after the first two weeks. 

[YabbaCoe]

Před 1 hodinou konean řekl/a:

I know, thats how understand it. But considering all things I would be very suprised if we dont see bans right after the first two weeks. 

And what to you think, will those bans of certain ships be a good improvement?

[redlockk]

1 hour ago, YabbaCoe said:

And what to you think, will those bans of certain ships be a good improvement?

And what wg think ? How many times we must retrain in 1 seson  ? When cb end we must retrain again and after this will be clan brawl and again retrain then rank other retrain. Becuse wg keep switching tier in competitiv. I know wg dont want to see 4 Venezia or 4 Petro but în time we will see the same ships playng becuse is to expensive to retrain in this rush of mods.  With no free respec  wg realy make us to not enjoy the game. Its more like we must pay for the air we consume.thanks and we all hope in something more 

[konean]

1 hour ago, YabbaCoe said:

And what to you think, will those bans of certain ships be a good improvement?

I am looking forward to it. It should be an overall improvment for Clanbattles if its execution is done properly. At least thats what I am expecting right now, but there is still the fear and my trust issues in the execution on it through the season. Especially with recent decision making, restricting us the access to data from the api for clanbattles and a captain rework that missed its chance to improve the game by far.

[Knusvein]

Wargaming have ruin ranked .... all the good prices is gone accept Steel tough.....

 

[YabbaCoe]

Před 15 hodinami Knusvein řekl/a:

Wargaming have ruin ranked .... all the good prices is gone accept Steel tough.....

 

This thread is for Clan Battles btw

[Redcap375]

On 2/23/2021 at 7:34 AM, YabbaCoe said:

This is not entirely true. In the article we mentioned: For example, they can be set after the first 2 weeks of a season, then replaced with different restrictions a few weeks later.  Which means that implementation of those restrictions can happen after two weeks, or later etc. Basically when we will see, that for example Kitakaze is has higher numbers than any other ship, she can be restricted

 

And don't just go off the numbers.  As the majority will not have access to some of the broken ships in their tier you currently have in the game (tier for tier).

 

Just because you see a lot of Jutland's for example, don't ban them because of "numbers".  It's because many people CAN obtain silver ships and have them.

 

You know what i'm getting at...*Cough* "Black" "Mashi" "Alaska" "Kron".

 

However, if you do this right then i think you have done the right thing and an improvement for CB's.  It only took you how many seasons and people telling you to work that out???.

 

 However, i am almost certainly convinced that you will somehow screw it up (apologies, just going off WOWS past record) and end up restricting pointless ships. I know you wanna sell premium ships, but stop screwing gameplay up because of that.

 

 

[YabbaCoe]

Před 16 minutami Redcap375 řekl/a:

 

And don't just go off the numbers.  As the majority will not have access to some of the broken ships in their tier you currently have in the game (tier for tier).

 

Just because you see a lot of Jutland's for example, don't ban them because of "numbers".  It's because many people CAN obtain silver ships and have them.

 

You know what i'm getting at...*Cough* "Black" "Mashi" "Alaska" "Kron".

 

However, if you do this right then i think you have done the right thing and an improvement for CB's.  It only took you how many seasons and people telling you to work that out???.

 

 However, i am almost certainly convinced that you will somehow screw it up (apologies, just going off WOWS past record) and end up restricting pointless ships. I know you wanna sell premium ships, but stop screwing gameplay up because of that.

 

 

There can be several ways how to restrict or ban certain ships, also for several different reasons.

I know that the trust in executing this might now be very high, but we will all see, how well it will go. Atleast now you can see, that we are trying to make changes in painpoints, which players mentioned a lot - overusage of certain ships.

[Redcap375]

1 hour ago, YabbaCoe said:

There can be several ways how to restrict or ban certain ships, also for several different reasons.

I know that the trust in executing this might now be very high, but we will all see, how well it will go. Atleast now you can see, that we are trying to make changes in painpoints, which players mentioned a lot - overusage of certain ships.

 

The ball is in your court.

 

And don't take this personally but don't worry about the high expectations. The bar is set very low, practically subterranean. Just set the foundations first.

 

And remember to the players, "money" gains are not a good reason (I can read between the lines).

 

I would say look into why certain ships are restricted?  Give you a hint, they might be too strong for the tier?? But I'm sure you already know that one so I don't expect anything to change there . 

 

Anyway, you've taken the first steps so good luck and prove me/us wrong. 

 

 

[WildWind84]

22 hours ago, Redcap375 said:

 

And don't just go off the numbers.  As the majority will not have access to some of the broken ships in their tier you currently have in the game (tier for tier).

 

Just because you see a lot of Jutland's for example, don't ban them because of "numbers".  It's because many people CAN obtain silver ships and have them.

 

You know what i'm getting at...*Cough* "Black" "Mashi" "Alaska" "Kron".

 

However, if you do this right then i think you have done the right thing and an improvement for CB's.  It only took you how many seasons and people telling you to work that out???.

 

 However, i am almost certainly convinced that you will somehow screw it up (apologies, just going off WOWS past record) and end up restricting pointless ships. I know you wanna sell premium ships, but stop screwing gameplay up because of that.

 

 

I agree with you, just Alaska would't be on my list (I don't have her), instead of her I will be put someone of that bb ships (Chinese and like that, also Japanese Mushashi and Hizen). On DD  - I don't have them, I don't feel ok to writte about them because I don't know them ok. 

[Redcap375]

As I have already stated , due to WG not bothering or caring about limiting certain sub groups, supercrusiers, heavy crusiers and light crusiers fall into the same crusier bracket! 

 

Randoms its forgivable (as its a cluster anyway) but competive scenes need hard caps on ship types. 

 

As 3 past seasons have shown, supercrusiers are simply better to use when CVs are not around (thank god) . Unless you have in mind a HE tactic or a DD combo which only very very few groups use to good effect (its very squishy and when pushed melts). 

 

From one night we have already steamed up into the next league and all of our crusiers were super ones.

 

Do we remeber the Balancedgrad season which was a joke? 

 

What WG could do is limit the CLASS of ship, not the ship its self. So only 1 supercrusiers or 2 heavy crusiers, something like that. However that would be admitting their mistakes and not sub classing ships which they won't do so.... 

 

But so far people are trying different set ups but already you see the "usual" suspects show up. 

 

And this season without CVs? THANK GOD and may it remain. Teams can actually use tactics this time. I can't see anyone wanting CVs back in CBs. Well, those that actually care about gameplay not their own stat padding agenda. 

 

[Redcap375]

Good job @YabbaCoe.

 

It's not often I say this, but you guys and girls got it right. You restricted the correct ships and it's for the better in this competive scene. It keeps it fresh and teams have to adapt. 

 

You can do your post analysis when the dust has settled to ask "why" so many CB teams played those ships. 

 

But for now, gj. 

 

 

[YabbaCoe]

Před 49 minutami Redcap375 řekl/a:

Good job @YabbaCoe.

 

It's not often I say this, but you guys and girls got it right. You restricted the correct ships and it's for the better in this competive scene. It keeps it fresh and teams have to adapt. 

 

You can do your post analysis when the dust has settled to ask "why" so many CB teams played those ships. 

 

But for now, gj. 

 

 

Well it was not me, who decided to put those certain ships to restrictions, but I will accept it on behalf of the company.

Actually which ships would you personally restrict and ban for this CB, if you could choose?

[Mc_Gregar]

39 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

Well it was not me, who decided to put those certain ships to restrictions, but I will accept it on behalf of the company.

Actually which ships would you personally restrict and ban for this CB, if you could choose?

What about  Black ban this ship!