[NOCV] D4TC4 Players 81 posts 8,317 battles Report post #1 Posted February 16, 2021 Will stalingrad's sigma be nerfed from 2.65 to 2.25? wowsfitting tool has stalingrad2 and sigma 2.25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #2 Posted February 16, 2021 Stalingrad 2 is the old ship from the testing phase, before Stalingrad was released. So short answer: no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #3 Posted February 16, 2021 I hope not, I just got it last week! It won't be, it's balansed.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlwaysBadLuckWithTeams Weekend Tester 1,469 posts 37,910 battles Report post #4 Posted February 17, 2021 I have a riddle for you. In one of the past t10 clan battle seasons, 3 ships were very popular. Hakuryu, Venezia, and Stalingrad. 2 were nerfed. Would you like to make an educated guess which ones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BUSHI] Odo_Toothless Players 5,402 posts 24,784 battles Report post #5 Posted February 17, 2021 She was proud of Soviet navy, so NIET, Comrade ! ;-). 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D_S_W] doerhoff_damian Players 1,486 posts 34,518 battles Report post #6 Posted February 17, 2021 No i don´t think that WG will do any direct Nerfs to Steal Ships. That leaves only Room for Indirect Nerfs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #7 Posted February 17, 2021 3 hours ago, doerhoff_damian said: No i don´t think that WG will do any direct Nerfs to Steal Ships. That leaves only Room for Indirect Nerfs. Well the commander skill change achieved that, though I think it's only a slight nerf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SVX] albin322 Players 1,850 posts 20,871 battles Report post #8 Posted February 17, 2021 3 hours ago, gopher31 said: Well the commander skill change achieved that, though I think it's only a slight nerf. actully its quite the heavy nerf of the survivebility of the stalin! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #9 Posted February 17, 2021 Stalingrad’s accurate guns is literally the only good thing about it. The hull is clumsy, easily burnt, and exceptionally vulnerable from the sides, all while being spotted from the Moon. Don’t get me wrong, she’s still strong thanks to the magical soviet guns, but really not OP. Take away the accuracy and there is zero reason to play her left. Rather be in a Petro already... 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SVX] albin322 Players 1,850 posts 20,871 battles Report post #10 Posted February 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Captain_Newman said: Stalingrad’s accurate guns is literally the only good thing about it. The hull is clumsy, easily burnt, and exceptionally vulnerable from the sides, all while being spotted from the Moon. Don’t get me wrong, she’s still strong thanks to the magical soviet guns, but really not OP. Take away the accuracy and there is zero reason to play her left. Rather be in a Petro already... i think last season cb agrees with you so many petros so many petros............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #11 Posted February 17, 2021 Stalin lost its appeal for any kind of comp now, she is simply 2 easy to burn down when focused, in Randoms and possibly even Ranked to a degree ahe still works as you can use the taters as a meat shield while plinking from long range but thats inceedibly boring and I never liked playing her in Randoms because of that... She did pay for my Black and Burgogne though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #12 Posted February 17, 2021 24 minutes ago, Captain_Newman said: Stalingrad’s accurate guns is literally the only good thing about it. The hull is clumsy, easily burnt, and exceptionally vulnerable from the sides, all while being spotted from the Moon. Don’t get me wrong, she’s still strong thanks to the magical soviet guns, but really not OP. Take away the accuracy and there is zero reason to play her left. Rather be in a Petro already... AHH IS IT TIME FOR BALANS COMRADE?! Update 0.11.0 Patch notes: Dear Commanders! We hope you are havin a fun time with deadeye so heres some more balans to make the game more enjoyable! Stalingrad all stats increased by 3x cus of forumites saying it was balans enuff. Super Stalingrad added to tier 11 on request of some forumites. Will balans when daytah is collected (I.E 8 patches away). Good Luck and Fair seas! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #13 Posted February 17, 2021 I still like Stalingrad a lot but Petro does have many advantages in exchange for long range accuracy, pen angles and HE. Playing Stalingrad bow in and it just doesn’t last long against carriers, fires and dead eye HE spam. It needs to played as a roving cruiser but has a larger turning circle than a GK! When played well, it can be more effective than the Petro but mistakes are punished very heavily. I’m now using damage control aggressively and hoping for Kunetsov to save me if I get set on fire again while low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #14 Posted February 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, CptBarney said: AHH IS IT TIME FOR BALANS COMRADE?! Update 0.11.0 Patch notes: Dear Commanders! We hope you are havin a fun time with deadeye so heres some more balans to make the game more enjoyable! Stalingrad all stats increased by 3x cus of forumites saying it was balans enuff. Super Stalingrad added to tier 11 on request of some forumites. Will balans when daytah is collected (I.E 8 patches away). Good Luck and Fair seas! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #15 Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, CptBarney said: AHH IS IT TIME FOR BALANS COMRADE?! Update 0.11.0 Patch notes: Dear Commanders! We hope you are havin a fun time with deadeye so heres some more balans to make the game more enjoyable! Stalingrad all stats increased by 3x cus of forumites saying it was balans enuff. Super Stalingrad added to tier 11 on request of some forumites. Will balans when daytah is collected (I.E 8 patches away). Good Luck and Fair seas! Funny, but if you actually played her I think you’s be shocked at how not OP she is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #16 Posted February 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Captain_Newman said: Funny, but if you actually played her I think you’s be shocked at how not OP she is. Dats why she need her own reewurk. Also i don't have the game installed, nor will i been about 8-9 months since i touched the game too be fair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #17 Posted February 17, 2021 Amazing - some dude sees an old test version of Stalingrad on wowsft and immediately makes a new thread with font size 100. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #18 Posted February 17, 2021 Just now, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: Amazing - some dude sees an old test version of Stalingrad on wowsft and immediately makes a new thread with font size 100. Someone post that Flamu russian bias frog meme Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #19 Posted February 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: Amazing - some dude sees an old test version of Stalingrad on wowsft and immediately makes a new thread with font size 100. Was that the one with cruiser dispersion and a 32mm upper bow? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #20 Posted February 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, gopher31 said: Was that the one with cruiser dispersion and a 32mm upper bow? I think Stalingrad 2 was the one with AP only and DM AP angles? Dunno if it had some other traits... 13 minutes ago, Captain_Newman said: Funny, but if you actually played her I think you’s be shocked at how not OP she is. Played one Stalingrad game yesterday... 54k damage because you cant just be caught bow in Well TBF, it was a roflstomp win, so i guess same result with any other Cruiser too... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #21 Posted February 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, gopher31 said: Was that the one with cruiser dispersion and a 32mm upper bow? At that point, the bow was the same that we have now, I believe. It should be this one: Quote ST. Balance changes. Soviet cruiser Stalingrad. During the update 0.7.7 two versions of the ship will be tested. First one includes all of the previous changes: Added HE shells with the following characteristics: Initial Shell Velocity 950 m / s; Maximum HE Shell Damage 4500; Chance of Fire on Target Caused by HE Shell 33%. Firing Range is reduced from 22,890 to 20,350. Reload Time of Main Battery is increased from 18.5 to 20 seconds. Rotation Speed of Main Battery is increased from 4.5 to 5.0 deg. / sec. The parameters of the dispersion ellipse are set to similar values of the Graf Spee cruiser (better than battleships, but worse than common cruisers). The parameters of ricochet angles of the AP shells are changed to the standard values. Part of Stalingrad's casemate with 180 mm armor belt is recategorized as citadel, effectively making the citadel bigger. Amount of citadel HP restored is increased from 10% to 33%. Due to the dispersion ellipse enemy battleships are going to be Stalingrad's primary targets, yet firing at other classes becomes more effective. This version of cruiser still has a choice of HE shells, which allows her to be useful in most battle situations. Changes in second version compared with first: Only AP shells. The parameters of the dispersion ellipse are set to similar values of the common battleships. The parameters of the ricochet angles of AP shells are equal to the values of the American cruiser Des Moines. Sigma was increased from 2.05 to 2.25. The thickness of armour required to arm the shells was reduced from 51 mm to 34 mm. Second version of the cruiser is a continuation of HE-less kind, and it balances her against the same tier adversaries, while making her less dependent on individual player's skill due to the weapon accuracy. At thesame time, lesser arming threshold of the shells allows the cruiser to deal more consistently. Please note that the information in the Development Blog is preliminary. The funny thing is that - overnight - WG combined the the best stuff of these versions into the final release... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #22 Posted February 17, 2021 She's already nerfed with Petra being around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #23 Posted February 17, 2021 49 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: At that point, the bow was the same that we have now, I believe. It should be this one: The funny thing is that - overnight - WG combined the the best stuff of these versions into the final release... Wow, they really did. AP version had battleship dispersion with 2.25 sigma, release has battlecruiser dispersion with 2.65 sigma! All it seems to miss out on is 5 degrees of ricochet angles AND it gets HE! Fortunately, they didn't give it Petro's magic citadel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #24 Posted February 17, 2021 53 minutes ago, gopher31 said: Wow, they really did. Yeah it was last-minute before the release. Nobody ever properly tested the final version IIRC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SWLG] EpicGoldenCat Players 67 posts 5,525 battles Report post #25 Posted February 17, 2021 should be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
