[BABBY] BlackYeti Players 789 posts 11,291 battles Report post #1 Posted February 13 I'm aware that Monarch is at the far end in WR of T8 BB's but I revisited her recently and love her to bits in the current meta. Every camping deadeyer is burning down. Her range is still criminally low but at least it forces you to stay reasonably close to the action and be useful 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 7,518 posts 245 battles Report post #2 Posted February 13 I just wish her dispersion wasn't so wonky, otherwise i could get used to her quickly. But i still like her even if i struggled to stay above 50% WR lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 12,254 posts 9,841 battles Report post #3 Posted February 13 Liked it more than Bismarck and Richelieu Also the AP brutalizes Cruisers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GWR] illy Players 550 posts 9,309 battles Report post #4 Posted February 13 6 minutes ago, CptBarney said: I just wish her dispersion wasn't so wonky, otherwise i could get used to her quickly. But i still like her even if i struggled to stay above 50% WR lol. a bit of deadeye helps with that, the AP works remarkably good with it 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 7,518 posts 245 battles Report post #5 Posted February 13 1 minute ago, illy said: a bit of deadeye helps with that, the AP works remarkably good with it True, just wish she didn't need deadeye really as monarch is pretty good flanker and ambush BB. Although i guess at bottom tier she gets relegated too 2nd line support kinda hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LEEUW] GarrusBrutus Players 2,905 posts 10,528 battles Report post #6 Posted February 13 I love Monarchs since they pose little threat and they burn nicely. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 7,518 posts 245 battles Report post #7 Posted February 13 13 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said: I love Monarchs since they pose little threat and they burn nicely. Sad to be fair, i can imagine the prem monarch being much better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[URUC] S_h_i_v_a Players 306 posts Report post #8 Posted February 13 Hated it. Mostly loosing 30-50% HP before getting close enough to fire to someone. Now i glt the Lion i don't want to try the italian BB line, all shortranged like Monarch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] BlackYeti Players 789 posts 11,291 battles Report post #9 Posted February 13 1 minute ago, S_h_i_v_a said: Hated it. Mostly loosing 30-50% HP before getting close enough to fire to someone. Now i glt the Lion i don't want to try the italian BB line, all shortranged like Monarch. How can you struggle to get close with 11,5 km concealment? It's glorious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GWR] illy Players 550 posts 9,309 battles Report post #10 Posted February 13 54 minutes ago, CptBarney said: True, just wish she didn't need deadeye really as monarch is pretty good flanker and ambush BB. Although i guess at bottom tier she gets relegated too 2nd line support kinda hard. deadeye has really improved the Dunkerque as well, having lots of fun in her even when the inevitable bottom tiering happens 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Inappropriate_noob Players 3,538 posts Report post #11 Posted February 13 45 minutes ago, CptBarney said: Sad to be fair, i can imagine the prem monarch being much better. Vanguard I am liking more and more, Monarch isn't that bad either to be fair 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SYD] Molly_Delaney Players 717 posts 2,102 battles Report post #12 Posted February 13 Just recently unlocked her and I like. Though Thunderer with Captain Jingles is the fun boat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[URUC] S_h_i_v_a Players 306 posts Report post #13 Posted February 13 5 ore fa, BlackYeti ha scritto: How can you struggle to get close with 11,5 km concealment? It's glorious Destroyers and Cvs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2PTS] PaP_Mentoles Players 173 posts 8,580 battles Report post #14 Posted February 14 8 hours ago, GarrusBrutus said: I love Monarchs since they pose little threat and they burn nicely. Well, I love my Monarch too. Just deleted a Soyuz mid range with 7 cidatel hits on 2 salvos 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JRM] Yedwy Players 7,507 posts 27,572 battles Report post #15 Posted February 14 10 hours ago, Molly_Delaney said: Though Thunderer with Captain Jingles is the fun boat. Ohhh thats a paddlin... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 5,552 posts 26,165 battles Report post #16 Posted February 14 7 hours ago, S_h_i_v_a said: Destroyers and Cvs Yeah, CV almost every game these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LUZ1] Camperdown Players 1,160 posts 13,811 battles Report post #17 Posted February 14 I like her too, but she does not carry battles .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SYD] Molly_Delaney Players 717 posts 2,102 battles Report post #18 Posted February 14 4 hours ago, Camperdown said: I like her too, but she does not carry battles .... Hold my Whisky ...... Yes it's coop but that means the Reds can generally hit what they aim at..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 12,254 posts 9,841 battles Report post #19 Posted February 14 4 hours ago, Camperdown said: I like her too, but she does not carry battles .... 2 minutes ago, Molly_Delaney said: Hold my Whisky ...... Yes it's coop but that means the Reds can generally hit what they aim at..... Dont worry, i can provide a random battle too That was one hell of a battle really... halfway through, i thought its a loss, but somehow we managed to turn it around. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LUZ1] Camperdown Players 1,160 posts 13,811 battles Report post #20 Posted February 14 1 hour ago, DFens_666 said: Dont worry, i can provide a random battle too That was one hell of a battle really... halfway through, i thought its a loss, but somehow we managed to turn it around. What I meant is, Monarch does her damage gradually and she has excellent heal. But imo she cannot push very strongly, so you are more dependent on your team. She is a strong contributor, but will not easily carry her flank independently. So, if your team has not had their brains eaten away by glue, she can do very well. If they are licking da windows, she can put on a strong defence, but will not, in my experience, carry the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 12,254 posts 9,841 battles Report post #21 Posted February 14 49 minutes ago, Camperdown said: What I meant is, Monarch does her damage gradually and she has excellent heal. But imo she cannot push very strongly, so you are more dependent on your team. She is a strong contributor, but will not easily carry her flank independently. So, if your team has not had their brains eaten away by glue, she can do very well. If they are licking da windows, she can put on a strong defence, but will not, in my experience, carry the game. Well, but i did? Yes, i couldnt push because i was facing a Musashi, amongst other things. 460mm guns will just shred a Monarch to pieces, so i started to kite away. In the end, we were 3 vs 6 (or maybe 4 vs 6 im not 100% sure anymore). Prior to that, Musashi and Amalfi died in B cap, but i dont remember if we also lost a ship in between or not. I was kiting away from A/B to B/C into C, while enemies pushed straight into B. I shot them, while my DDs torped them. Then they got pushed by the enemies south of B/C, as you see my DDs were basicly stuck beteen Neptune/Haru/Massa. Luckily i got the Neptune, and my DDs could run away into B. Also the enemy DDs were very stupid by smoking up and not spotting our Kiev, because they would easily outspot him. So then shima killed Aki, and we killed Haru together after that. Before that, the Massa was pushing into me, so i started kiting again. Since he couldnt keep it up, he ran away, which definetely lost him the game (dunno why he did that really, was a hurricane clan player). Maybe he was hoping he win by points/time, but eventually he still died before the end. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BUSHI] Odo_Toothless Modder 5,222 posts 23,527 battles Report post #22 Posted February 14 11 hours ago, Camperdown said: I like her too, but she does not carry battles .... She can, If You use AP + Your superior concelement close to cap and dispertion will say YES to ex. spotted Mino :-P. But most the time, she just can't hit anything properly, becouse huge vertical dispertion. Her AP penetration is so low too, than almost perfectly broadside ex. Montana on 8-10 km will only crush those shells .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[1FA] FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor Players 3,006 posts 22,245 battles Report post #23 Posted February 14 Yes well but Lion does everything better and plus gets fewer CVs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 12,254 posts 9,841 battles Report post #24 Posted February 14 36 minutes ago, FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor said: Yes well but Lion does everything better and plus gets fewer CVs. I think Lion is a pile of steaming hot turd 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ZEN] Chaos_Umbra [ZEN] Players 1,388 posts 14,522 battles Report post #25 Posted February 14 I wish it didn't even exist... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites