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Ranked Battles: The Second Season

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Hm I don't see any reason to go to silver let alone gold league. The reward gain in comparison to a lot more grinding is not worth it.

 

On paper it may not look so bad but there is a lot less irrevocable ranks than previous season, even in bronze. So even if there is only 50% more stars, that does not mean only 50% more grind because you lose stars more.

 

Bronze league looks doable, the other two, not so much. Because constantly grinding ranked for 3 months straight next to playing random and clan battles seems too much. 

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Really? Mixed tiers? And out of curiosity what's the need for qualifying when you end up playing with silver league players after you have qualified for gold? (This also applies to Silver league too) I had a hard life qualifying and then had an even harder time trying to carry the same persons that I had to qualify with in order to rank out.

 

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Question about Ranked Containers:

 

Is there a chance for one out of four rewards, OR do you get all four rewards in the Ranked Containers?

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9 minutes ago, Apipoulai said:

Question about Ranked Containers:

 

Is there a chance for one out of four rewards, OR do you get all four rewards in the Ranked Containers?

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1 of four i belive!

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If so, Coal is pretty much a non-existing reward in Ranked season 2.................

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Very poor rewards for the effort that goes into it.

 

Should have been:

 

Bronze: Tier VIII

Silver:   Tier   IX

Gold:    Tier    X

 

 

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Now with the changes the effort is going to be gigantic in case you would really try to go for for the max rewards. 
 

More stars to qualify for the next league is fine i think, it will make it harder to progress. With this however it will get more difficult later to progress as the team average skill level is higher - therefore it will be more difficult. 

 

Last season Gold league was on randoms WR level on average - 49,x%. Tryhard smaland or smolensk (great star saver) got you R1 in 25-40 games..i tried a lot of things, spoke to a lot of people, to get a good understanding. 

 

So we have to say goodbye. Ranked is no more. Gone are the ranked old days seasons that were intense, but got you a truckload of flags, cammos and steel and a feeling of achievement at the end (and far back a really cool flag). Gone are the fun ranked sprints in between where you dived up with buddies having a blast...


What we get is a new 7vs7 randoms format, with better rewards, tighter tier matchmaking and no option to dive up. 

 

So you stay bronze or silver to max out effort and rewards and to grind your T8/T9    and wait for better days to come (and not to forget its clan battles in parallel)

 

Those are the thoughts of a Unicum, that went through the hard route of learning not blaming the teams but looking at own impact and performance. I ranked out every time since I had a T10 ship...playing in prem league early on tought me to play in 56%+ WR teams (that was hard, and real skill based league sorting)

 

I can understand for most people this new format is better as it gets the vast majority of the playerbase way more steel and dubs than before (in old seasons ranked really began at Rank T10 for obvious reasons, and most people sub 50% WR stopped there as they could not progress...). 

 

We should just not call it ranked anymore...everything special about it is gone...

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Looks like no more easy steel in Bronze league. It's elongated form 7 to 10 ranks, rank 3 no more irrevocable, sad. Now, Golden league looks terribly grindy with no safe ranks, and those stars needed to progress, omg. I'll try to rank out in Bronze a few times, if teams will allow to....

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So, for the ranking up you only need wins? Does loosing drops you in the rank?

 

Also, is it possible to use premium ships like Hizen to not loose credits in this mode?

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Not that I could achieve it, cos I have some resemblance of a life outside WOW, but I can see no incentive to complete the Gold league.  Saying that it is going to be over 6 phases, each lasting for 2 weeks, so I suppose completing Gold on the final one would be beneficial.

There is a lot of steel to be had, which is nice, but the tiers could have been better sorted.  Bronze should be all VIIIs until you get to qualification,  IXs.  Silver should be all IXs until qualification which should be Xs.  At the moment, the way it seems to me, is that if your highest tier level is an VIII, the last thing you want to do is qualify for Silver, you wouldn't be able to play it.

 

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On 2/12/2021 at 2:33 PM, YabbaCoe said:

Well, first of all, PR is not our, so we can't use is as a measurement.

Also for example in tier VIII we have so many ships, so what if a certain player with usually good results of other ships will take a ship he haven't played yet? Also randoms can give you rough estimate, but still Rankeds can be much different for performance point of view.

So for example according to me Bronze league should be without any limits, as the lowest league. For higher ones, indeed there should be some requirement. But atleast as I saw some comments here on forum, higher leagues generally have much better players, not so many lower skill ones.

That's right. PR is a measurement done externally.

 

But what's yours is the knowledge of people that haven't researched any TIX, TX from techtree (Hello ARP Yamato!) and/or haven't played away from TVI (or mostly Co-Op) inside the Gold League. Letting newcomers, or people that just don't want to play away from low tiers, get inside to what (as WG said) "requires more effort and game knowledge" to players that don't match any condition but buy a ticket (a premium ship) impacts very negatively on ranked battles.

And you know it.

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On 2/12/2021 at 3:33 PM, YabbaCoe said:

Well, first of all, PR is not our, so we can't use is as a measurement.

Also for example in tier VIII we have so many ships, so what if a certain player with usually good results of other ships will take a ship he haven't played yet? Also randoms can give you rough estimate, but still Rankeds can be much different for performance point of view.

So for example according to me Bronze league should be without any limits, as the lowest league. For higher ones, indeed there should be some requirement. But atleast as I saw some comments here on forum, higher leagues generally have much better players, not so many lower skill ones.

you dont have the faintest clue what ure talking about mate , what this new system does is boosting low skill players into gold league , and if one doesnt rank out as soon as possible , it becomes Randoms Battles but with fewer ppl

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V 13. 2. 2021 v 9:59 Apipoulai řekl/a:

Question about Ranked Containers:

 

Is there a chance for one out of four rewards, OR do you get all four rewards in the Ranked Containers?

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From those containers, you will get one of those four items listed. That is why / is in this infographics.

 

V 14. 2. 2021 v 1:22 Gwynbleidd11 řekl/a:

So, for the ranking up you only need wins? Does loosing drops you in the rank?

 

Also, is it possible to use premium ships like Hizen to not loose credits in this mode?

As usual, you need wins to get stars to rank up. Battle lost will result into loosing a star, with the expection, when the best player of defeated side won't loose a star. Also if you are on irrevocable rank, you can't drop to lower rank.

Of couse you can use any ship you want.

 

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That's right. PR is a measurement done externally.

 

But what's yours is the knowledge of people that haven't researched any TIX, TX from techtree (Hello ARP Yamato!) and/or haven't played away from TVI (or mostly Co-Op) inside the Gold League. Letting newcomers, or people that just don't want to play away from low tiers, get inside to what (as WG said) "requires more effort and game knowledge" to players that don't match any condition but buy a ticket (a premium ship) impacts very negatively on ranked battles.

And you know it.

Have you encountered any newbee, that haven't researched any tier X tech tree ship and is playing in Golden league? Or have you seen more of those players there?

I am not in Golden league, so I can't check myself, so I would like to know, based on your experience.

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Its interesting that so many people dont want mixed tiers, but WG insists on doing it.

We dont care what you want at its best.

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On 2/12/2021 at 3:59 PM, surfer_gr said:

i like this :)

 

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No, you dont. Since the guys in Qualification join normal Gold games. :Smile_trollface:

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15 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

Have you encountered any newbee, that haven't researched any tier X tech tree ship and is playing in Golden league? Or have you seen more of those players there?

I am not in Golden league, so I can't check myself, so I would like to know, based on your experience.

Of course! Newcomers with ARP Yamatos. And much more on Bronze-Silver with Alaskas, Pommerns, and that stuff that close the gap between players with some experience (wich it's supposed to be needed to compete on ranked battles) and those ones whose buy It with money.

 

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Před 22 hodinami Wieland řekl/a:

Its interesting that so many people dont want mixed tiers, but WG insists on doing it.

We dont care what you want at its best.

Well, I sent a detailed feedback, where I pointed out, that mixed tiers probably wasn't a good idea at all.

 

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Of course! Newcomers with ARP Yamatos. And much more on Bronze-Silver with Alaskas, Pommerns, and that stuff that close the gap between players with some experience (wich it's supposed to be needed to compete on ranked battles) and those ones whose buy It with money.

 

How many of those newcomers in ARP Yamatos have you encountered in Golden League? He also needed tier VIII and IX ship to qualify from Bronze and Silver leagues. I still can't see, how this kind of player, who doesn't have experience of this game and therefore doesn't know much can qualify through two leagues so easily.

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27 minuti fa, YabbaCoe ha scritto:

I still can't see, how this kind of player, who doesn't have experience of this game and therefore doesn't know much can qualify through two leagues so easily.

that's the reason to not let a t10 ship be buyable/purchasable, and they can still spam games so i guess ranking out is quite easy for them with time and irrevocable ranks

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23 hours ago, Wieland said:

Its interesting that so many people dont want mixed tiers, but WG insists on doing it.

We dont care what you want at its best.

You guys better watch what you wish for. If you dont understand why the tiers are mixed, and demand to have nonmixed tiers in ranked, you are basically asking WG to introduce carriers on tier 5,7 and 9. Is that what you really want?

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