[OGHF] Cyclops_ Players 2,108 posts 36,216 battles Report post #1 Posted February 9, 2021 New German DD line Nerfed already as BB Babies Cry that they are to OP ST 0.10.1, changes to test ships - Development blog BETA (worldofwarships.com) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #2 Posted February 9, 2021 They want them to be played as "small" cruisers and the torpedoes should be only Final Solutions I guess. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF] Cyclops_ Players 2,108 posts 36,216 battles Report post #3 Posted February 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Humorpalanta said: They want them to be played as "small" cruisers and the torpedoes should be only Final Solutions I guess. The torps of all other Cruiser's of the tier have LONGER range, so that makes no sense really. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hirohito Players 1,717 posts 6,192 battles Report post #4 Posted February 9, 2021 I'm losing more and more respect for BB players each day.. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #5 Posted February 9, 2021 This is impressive by WG: they've actually managed to make a new DD line that I'm not excited about in the slightest. That's really quite hard to do... 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #6 Posted February 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Cyclops_ said: The torps of all other Cruiser's of the tier have LONGER range, so that makes no sense really. Even the KM ones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPURD] Itwastuesday Players 1,768 posts 13,581 battles Report post #7 Posted February 9, 2021 I think WG realized they made a mistake in making good KM ships (the carrier), probably accidentally, and are now making sure the new KM destroyer will have 30% winrate 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #8 Posted February 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Cyclops_ said: The torps of all other Cruiser's of the tier have LONGER range, so that makes no sense really. I suppose their DPM and the fact that they do not have citadels require them to have these torps. TBH I can understand it as these are closer being cruisers than destroyers. The only reason they are called DDs is the fact that they do not have citadels for survivability reasons. They are basically like the russian gunboat destroyers but they are bigger and heavier. So where the russians would trust on their speed and handling these things will put trust in their hull and HP. The concept itself is interesting and I think they are better than the incoming Pasta BBs which did not need the SAP nor smoke... And these are just speculations on my side as I am not aware of their actual gameplay now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R3B3L] HystericalAccuracy Players 1,505 posts 40,428 battles Report post #9 Posted February 9, 2021 Started playing Katori again, after ignoring her for two years. Emden and Tachibana are really fun too, even with 6pts-captain (and immune to CV). What, there are new paper-ships at high tiers? Oh, their stats are bad? Well... Let´s see... ah, I also have a Diana in the port. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] guy_incognito79 Players 320 posts 5,605 battles Report post #10 Posted February 9, 2021 Keep this up and this line will suck more than a pornstar! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] asalonen Privateer 791 posts 15,219 battles Report post #11 Posted February 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, Verblonde said: This is impressive by WG: they've actually managed to make a new DD line that I'm not excited about in the slightest. That's really quite hard to do... It's just a small torpedo nerf to ships that are really about the guns. They have extraordinarily accurate guns and strong AP. Small, mobile snipers that have some extra survivability due to not having a citadel. What's not to like? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #12 Posted February 9, 2021 No concealment, no hydro, no DPM, no smoke, no speed, no torps. Ok so like, what do they get? 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #13 Posted February 9, 2021 23 minutes ago, asalonen said: They have extraordinarily accurate guns and strong AP. Small, mobile snipers that have some extra survivability due to not having a citadel. What's not to like? You may be right; I'll be delighted to be proven wrong! I tend to prefer DDs that are good at doing the traditional DD jobs like capping, spotting, and engaging in mortal combat with other DDs; these new KM things are sounding a bit like an alternative take on the French/Khaba lines i.e. small cruisers. I don't really gel with that playstyle (outside of Coop), hence my tendency towards pessimism... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #14 Posted February 9, 2021 26 minutes ago, NikolayKuznetsov said: Ok so like, what do they get? 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #15 Posted February 9, 2021 59 minutes ago, Hirohito said: I'm losing more and more respect for BB players each day.. I have none left. ontopic: And I am not surprised at all, those are DDs and German ones on top of that. Them being sh*t was essentially given, and all testing has to figure out is, how sh*tty on the sh*tscale they gonna end up. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TF57] Fatal_Ramses Players 1,300 posts Report post #16 Posted February 9, 2021 31 minutes ago, NikolayKuznetsov said: No concealment, no hydro, no DPM, no smoke, no speed, no torps. Ok so like, what do they get? Poor turret traverse? Oh wait.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,469 battles Report post #17 Posted February 9, 2021 Were these ships ever a threat to battleships? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] guy_incognito79 Players 320 posts 5,605 battles Report post #18 Posted February 9, 2021 1 minute ago, gopher31 said: Were these ships ever a threat to battleships? I doubt these lived long enough to reach the back of the enemy spawn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TF57] Fatal_Ramses Players 1,300 posts Report post #19 Posted February 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, gopher31 said: Were these ships ever a threat to battleships? Well they were suppose to be a threat to cruisers, but you don't see many of them around anymore. So are they a threat to anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #20 Posted February 9, 2021 40 minutes ago, NikolayKuznetsov said: Ok so like, what do they get? German flag, which means +100% to wehraboo, thus some people will spend resources on them simply because German Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #21 Posted February 9, 2021 44 minutes ago, NikolayKuznetsov said: No concealment, no hydro, no DPM, no smoke, no speed, no torps. Ok so like, what do they get? This: 2 minutes ago, Panocek said: German flag, which means +100% to wehraboo, thus some people will spend resources on them simply because German And I guess they get guns and no citadel. So there's that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #22 Posted February 9, 2021 45 minutes ago, asalonen said: They have extraordinarily accurate guns and strong AP. Small, mobile snipers that have some extra survivability due to not having a citadel. What's not to like? A big slow destroyer designed to open water gunboat cruisers at 11km, sounds like suicide to me. Ill wait and see of course but this line looks terribad 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hirohito Players 1,717 posts 6,192 battles Report post #23 Posted February 9, 2021 1 minute ago, NikolayKuznetsov said: A big slow destroyer designed to open water gunboat cruisers at 11km, sounds like suicide to me. Ill wait and see of course but this line looks terribad Especially when the armament to achieve that is AP shells. What cruiser in his right mind would sit there flat broadside for half a minute or more, and eat all those shells until he finally blows up? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #24 Posted February 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hirohito said: Especially when the armament to achieve that is AP shells. What cruiser in his right mind would sit there flat broadside for half a minute or more, and eat all those shells until he finally blows up? Pretty much yeah, cruiser just angles against these things and returns fire with what appears to be 150% more HP and 300% more DPM. The only thing I can see these Germans lolibotes achieving is sneak up on light cruiser broadsides the same way the french and -to a lesser extent- the russians can. And planes, oh god what are planes going to do to these poor things, they can't smoke like the brits, they can't run like the french, they can't kill the planes like the swedes. Just sit there and die I guess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #25 Posted February 9, 2021 Ill be happy if these DDs are actually any good, I love DDs, but on paper they look more underwhelming than the 40s reload 17kt american pigs recently released. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
