Fun is no more, BORING!

[Supersubway]

This game is now light years away from the december version of itself, that was much more funny.

 

Brawling is dead. 

 

Cruisers is a pain to play.

 

The only DD is the gunboat.

 

Secondaries BB are useless.

 

All the games are the same, all BB sitting away.

 

It's BORING. I take out Shikishima and I score tons of damage easily.

 

A lot of ships (P.Emilio for example) are now useless for a long part of the game.

 

Well, this is epic fail. Epic.

[ColonelPete]

21 minutes ago, Supersubway said:

This game is now light years away from the december version of itself, that was much more funny.

 

1. Brawling is dead. 
2. Cruisers is a pain to play.
3. The only DD is the gunboat.
4. Secondaries BB are useless.
5. All the games are the same, all BB sitting away.
6. It's BORING. I take out Shikishima and I score tons of damage easily.
7. A lot of ships (P.Emilio for example) are now useless for a long part of the game.

Well, this is epic fail. Epic.

1. You can still brawl
2. Unless you know what you are doing
3. I see many different DD
4. See 1
5. That happens more often. But when the enemy does that too, you can exploit it.
6. Yeah, that is really bad...
7. Not the ones I have seen

[Ronchabale]

28 minutes ago, Supersubway said:

This game is now light years away from the december version of itself, that was much more funny.

It is what u make of it

28 minutes ago, Supersubway said:

Brawling is dead. 

 

Cruisers is a pain to play.

 

The only DD is the gunboat.

 

Secondaries BB are useless.

 

All the games are the same, all BB sitting away.

 

It's BORING. I take out Shikishima and I score tons of damage easily.

 

A lot of ships (P.Emilio for example) are now useless for a long part of the game.

One way to see it..

Yeah, many ships got shafted but many others got buffed

19p "elite" captains is what took the worst hit

28 minutes ago, Supersubway said:

 

Well, this is epic fail. Epic.

I dont agree, I´d say it is different and adapting is difficult

 

[SkollUlfr]

20 minutes ago, Ronchabale said:

I´d say it is different and adapting is difficult

for me the game is now like walking into a maths exam, where all the questions are single digit addition sums, and being told to write the answers provided by throwing a dozen d20. the answers the game are giving me are nonsense, obviously nonsense, and yet im supposed to play along.

 

its not fun, its irritating. the current direction of the game does nothing but exacerbate all the flaws in the game.

[Ronchabale]

11 minutes ago, SkollUlfr said:

for me the game is now like walking into a maths exam, where all the questions are single digit addition sums, and being told to write the answers provided by throwing a dozen d20. the answers the game are giving me are nonsense, obviously nonsense, and yet im supposed to play along.

It is different

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its not fun, its irritating. the current direction of the game does nothing but exacerbate all the flaws in the game.

Havn´t played much for like 6 months but got back into it with the captain patch, as I said different and difficult to adapt

 I´d say I have had fun derping and shining with new builds

Direction of the game.. yeah

[anonym_FDOLXpxOfXXq]

Could be worse. Could be weekend with newport Op.

Oh wait.

[Itwastuesday]

Brawling is dead at the higher tiers, it has been dead for a while. Even pre-commander rework I can't remember the last time I saw a Kremlin, what I once considered the best battleship in the game.

 

Can't say I agree on the cruiser/dd parts though. I've been mostly having fun on Zao, Cleveland and Wukong and Shimakaze still seems like the best overall destroyer to me. If anything I hate playing battleships now, I can sorta-kinda enjoy Iowa but that's it. Not much fun to choose from SNIPE FROM 20+KM or GET FOCUSED BY KITING BB AND CRUISERS... I'll rather play carrier at this point. 

[colonel_duce]

Massa is dead and therefore i have nothing else to play. But i have a lot of free time since rework. 

[ColonelPete]

11 minutes ago, colonel_duce said:

Massa is dead and therefore i have nothing else to play. But i have a lot of free time since rework. 

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20210130/eu_week/average_ship_u.html

 

Looks like a personal problem...

[Jethro_Grey]

I wouldn't say that brawlers and cruisers are dead (yet).

It's just that a situational type of play has become even more situational and it has become harder to create situations where you can shine in a brawler.

 

It really depends on the enemy team screwing up and hand you an opening to brawler. 

[DFens_666]

6 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said:

I wouldn't say that brawlers and cruisers are dead (yet).

 

I agree, Cruisers are not dead so to say. You still need them to make a difference in fighting around caps. Thats the issue ive seen happen to me:

When i pick a DD, and no Cruiser decides to help me while the enemy DD has Cruiser backup, there is nothing you can do. Your longrange BBabies wont hit even if you spot the Cruiser for minutes (deadeye working as intended?). So you have to give up the caps and then you just lose the game.

But whats the cost really? Dealing very little damage, and having to play like an insane manian on steroids to survive because EVERYTHING just wants to [edited]you to death. It would be like 10 times easier without these flying [edited]faces, permaspotting and attacking you from an angle, while the entire team wants to shoot you because you are the closest target.

Like my last Plymouth game yesterday, it was [edited]insane. Its like a marathon for my brain.

Map was North

- I Go towards B cap, CV spots me ofc. But nothing happens

- Our DD gets into B cap, i hide at the small islands towards A, help with AA, because OFC, CV comes in again.

- I smoke up to shoot some ships sailing behind A, Hindenburg blindfires me twice for 25k damage. I radar a DD sailing past the gap to kill it. Have to revers becaue obvious torps.

- I move up again to shoot some BBs, Alsace blindfires me as i abandon my smoke.

- CV comes in ONCE AGAIN, torps me from behind so im locked into position, while shima torps are coming into my broadside, and i have 2 BBs whom im showing broadside to aswell (they went down the 1-line into our half of the map)

- I turn around to radar some DDs, as my BB div mate made a mistake and overextended into the crossfire. He dies, i radar the Asashio, sadly couldnt kill it because a Venezia as <11km is no joke.

- Running away again because Venezia torps and still having BBs in my broadside.

- Shima and Venezia go into A cap, i want to intervene. Asashio goes into B cap at the same time, and i prioritze him, hoping my 4 teammates at A can kill the 2 ships (which they barely managed...). Asashio flips B cap, but i can kill him.

- Neptune is moving from between the gaps into our spawn as i catch him with my Radar. Obviously, the CV wants to prevent me from getting the cap aswell, so again having threats from 2 sides, but instead he tries to kill my Kita (AA DUS NUFFIN!!! - yes it does jack crap )

- Luckily i devstrike the Neptune with 1 salvo, and get the Cap because the CV is too slow to hit me in time.

- CV strikes now coming in like BB salvos, as he is 10km behind an island.

 

 

Thats how the game looked at the 13 minute mark

Its absolutely exhausting to play like that. Why would any casual player want to put himself through this? They want to relax after work/school or whatever, not get mentaly drained.

And our [edited]ing PHUNdelel deadeye mongoloid fapping in the back the entire game... He managed 7th place on XP despite getting like 30k on the CV even...

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Cruisers were PITA and everything else was crap too before... if that's any consolation to OP....

[Ronchabale]

1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20210130/eu_week/average_ship_u.html

 

Looks like a personal problem...

NC is dead

[colonel_duce]

3 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

Looks like a personal problem...

Mostly personal, but secondary build is very expensive and the effectiveness is at 30-50% of what it was before. Now is Massa a boring ship to play (for me).
as i said, i have much more time once i am not playing WOWS anymore and that`s a good thing.

[Skurfa]

4 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20210130/eu_week/average_ship_u.html

 

Looks like a personal problem...

Didn’t you just say in another thread you didn’t like the weekly averages?

[piritskenyer]

7 hours ago, Supersubway said:

This game is now light years away from the december version of itself, that was much more funny.

 

1. Brawling is dead. 
2. Cruisers is a pain to play.
3. The only DD is the gunboat.
4. Secondaries BB are useless.
5. All the games are the same, all BB sitting away.
6. It's BORING. I take out Shikishima and I score tons of damage easily.
7. A lot of ships (P.Emilio for example) are now useless for a long part of the game.

Well, this is epic fail. Epic.

 

Apart from the title screaming "I'm Donald Trump and this is the only social media I haven't been banned from", All I can say is

 

1. No
2. cruisers are* and no.
3. no.
4. I don't know, but doesn't seem to be that way.
5. Not much more than they have been before.
6. Your problem, and good for you.
7. One of my clannies would beg to differ.

[Humorpalanta]

23 minutes ago, Skurfa said:

Didn’t you just say in another thread you didn’t like the weekly averages?

There are still people taking him seriously. LOL.

[Supersubway]

22 minutes ago, piritskenyer said:

 

Apart from the title screaming "I'm Donald Trump and this is the only social media I haven't been banned from", All I can say is

 

1. No
2. cruisers are* and no.
3. no.
4. I don't know, but doesn't seem to be that way.
5. Not much more than they have been before.
6. Your problem, and good for you.
7. One of my clannies would beg to differ.

3., No? BB can kill you more easily than before, and it's not a worse situation for a cruiser? Really? Be honest man

[ColonelPete]

1 hour ago, Skurfa said:

Didn’t you just say in another thread you didn’t like the weekly averages?

Yes, I do not like them. But showing stats that include battles from 3 weeks ago would be pointless.

[Puffin_]

6 hours ago, Jethro_Grey said:

I wouldn't say that brawlers and cruisers are dead (yet).

It's just that a situational type of play has become even more situational and it has become harder to create situations where you can shine in a brawler.

 

It really depends on the enemy team screwing up and hand you an opening to brawler. 

And it takes much more skill to find the right moment to push in and brawl than it used to. More skill than average players have at the moment.

And it sucks.

I tried to play Kremlin. Pushed in a good position I thought. 2 Thunderer on the red team in front. Salvo from the Thunderer nr 1. Double fires+ damage. My shots overpen. I put out the fires. Salvo from Thunderer nr 2 three permanent fires + damage. And then they go dark when they want too.  FUN  FUN FUN

[mirage77]

On 2/6/2021 at 3:19 PM, piritskenyer said:

 

Apart from the title screaming "I'm Donald Trump and this is the only social media I haven't been banned from", All I can say is

 

1. No
2. cruisers are* and no.
3. no.
4. I don't know, but doesn't seem to be that way.
5. Not much more than they have been before.
6. Your problem, and good for you.
7. One of my clannies would beg to differ.

1- Brawilng is almost dead.

2- No big diference for cruisers

3- Actualy what i see the most are Torp DDs having a field day

4-Not useless but almost

5-Yes BBs camp a even more now

6- The game is much boring now

7- Cant see any diference

 

Overal, for me, the game is much worse now. A lot more camping, more boring. So far i have nothing good to say about this update.  Maybe with more time and pratice it gets better. I hope so. Playing the game since closed Beta and for me the game never being worse.

 

[bakmaita]

2 hours ago, mirage77 said:

1- Brawilng is almost dead.

2- No big diference for cruisers

3- Actualy what i see the most are Torp DDs having a field day

4-Not useless but almost

5-Yes BBs camp a even more now

6- The game is much boring now

7- Cant see any diference

 

Overal, for me, the game is much worse now. A lot more camping, more boring. So far i have notinh good to say about this update.  Maybe with more time nad pratice it gets better. I hope so. Playing the game since closed Beta and for me the game never being worse.

 

Pretty much ^

Can still brawl but it takes way more patience to find an opening when it already was hard enough before.

That's at tier 8, which does feel more stagnant than it was before..I suppose brawling at tier X might be lost cause for most of time, though it already was hard enough, which only brings question why nerf aspect of game which already was hard to pull through and gave thrill to lot of us.

Secondaries being nerfed and having to give up even more on survivability skills than you had to before is one thing, when the whole gameplay change with everyone taking Deadeye and being more passive also indirectly makes it even less optimal build.

 

Once I ditched all the secondary skills expect the range one for Massa and just started to treat it like regular BB with good heals having those longer range secondaries as an almost irrelevant extra, I ended doing better with it. Yes they still hit stuff due to baked in accuracy, but chances are because of the whole gameplay change you will be better off not using them 90% of the match anyway. Yes I know it was not the optimal build already before, but now it has been made noticeably more useless, what is the logic in that while buffing already borderline OP snipers like Thunderer?

So where are those different builds WG were speaking about?

I can agree about cruisers, current skill build makes it even more easy to pick from the pool of skills, can take rpf now on pretty much 90% cruisers at this point, it's a no brainer with builds once again seeming to be quite similar.

So where are those different builds WG were speaking about? x2

Yes, Deadeye kind of hurts them too, but since everyone including other cruisers tend to hang back more, sneaky CL's seem to be more easy to play at this point if supporting DD's is your thing. Which does make me think even with skill itself being good, the impact of it in players mindset is what makes it much worse as suddenly everyone have that perfect reason why they are staying at back of map instead of having to participate more actively.

So apart from DD's and some sneaky CL's supporting them, there's just very little reason to push caps or brawl at all at this state of game.

[Wulf_Ace]

8 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20210130/eu_week/average_ship_u.html

 

Looks like a personal problem...

I bet you pleasure yourself on statistic numbers.

[ColonelPete]

1 hour ago, Wulf_Ace said:

I bet you pleasure yourself on statistic numbers.

You do not seem to have much luck with gambling....

[mesonoob]

This is typical Kremlin experience atm. And this is with a tank build, fire prevention etc. No thunderers yet I'm taking 300-400 ave dmg per HE volley front on and suffered 5 fires from 100 hits (5%). My thoughts, the fires aren't great when you're getting spammed by a cruiser/dd with 10 shells every 5 seconds. But the dmg ontop is the game breaker... nothing I can do to prevent it, most heavily armoured ship in game, and yes my SS can be hit and damaged, but I was taking dmg from hits into my bow and stern as well. So, 5 fires, and getting melted while using an island to try and cover, with an invis dd at 12km spotting... maybe bad position, maybe I suck, but this is my experience every game in 'tanking' ships since the captain rebuild. impossible to push, long range deadeye is the only way to go in tier 10 atm. Short/mid is dpm gunboats/cruisers. My worst experience since I started playing boats