Compensation for nerfing premiums secondaries

[Wannna]

Hello,

 

No words from WG, they don't care. But I won't let go :)

 

Where is our compensation for nerfing Premium secondary ships ?

[StonerStanley]

they don't care.

[COPlUM]

They didnt though, they changed a mechanic for every ship in the game, its their game

[RenamedUser_92906789]

Would you take 24h premium time?

 

What compensation??!? They should make a rework of the rework!

[Yedwy]

8 minutes ago, Wannna said:

Hello,

 

No words from WG, they don't care. But I won't let go :)

 

Where is our compensation for nerfing Premium secondary ships ?

Only real compensation would be full refund in the currency they were available for initially, WG however goes by the:

 

 

[GarrusBrutus]

Hahaha nice one. Made me laugh.

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

*laughter, as WG sit on your "coal"*

 

 

 

 

* coal can mean money in some languages

[HidesHisFace]

22 minutes ago, Wannna said:

Hello,

 

No words from WG, they don't care. But I won't let go :)

 

Where is our compensation for nerfing Premium secondary ships ?

I hate those changes just like every sane person, but Premium ships were never excluded from global changes to the game, plain and simple. 

[The_Norwood]

29 minutes ago, NikolayKuznetsov said:

They didnt though, they changed a mechanic for every ship in the game, its their game

But your premium ship, as you pay actual money for it. So  selling somebody something, say for example a ferrari, then taking it in for a service mandated by the company that sold it to you, then getting a VW beetle back has a name - fraud.

If the ship that has been paid cash for is no longer as good after an update, there should be compensation, or a refund as you are not getting what was advertised. That's just the law in many countries.

Nerfed AA on premiums anyone? I mean no premium can shoot down as many planes as before the cv rework.

[Jethro_Grey]

8 minutes ago, The_Norwood said:

But your premium ship, as you pay actual money for it. So  selling somebody something, say for example a ferrari, then taking it in for a service mandated by the company that sold it to you, then getting a VW beetle back has a name - fraud.

If the ship that has been paid cash for is no longer as good after an update, there should be compensation, or a refund as you are not getting what was advertised. That's just the law in many countries.

Nerfed AA on premiums anyone? I mean no premium can shoot down as many planes as before the cv rework.

And where exactly did ot state in the premium store how many planes it can shoot down at any given time? 

Or how much damage/ range secondaries do? 

 

One could argue, since the ranges for secondaries went up and the damage on AA was increased, you got BUFFED premiums. 

 

I hate that crap as much as anybody, but a global change - whether its positive or negative  - is not a reason for a refund.

 

And folks can bet their [edited]*s, WG has a dozen lawyers that made sure that this area is covered.

[Odo_Toothless]

15 minutes ago, The_Norwood said:

But your premium ship, as you pay actual money for it.

All content belongs to WG, players are only using them. When You buy something ingame, You are paying for ability for playing it as it is or it will be, as long as Your account is active. Nothing more, nothing less. You can like it or not, but those are a facts.

 

[Nov_A]

3x Detonation Flags.

 

That the most you get.

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

47 minutes ago, nambr9 said:

 They should make a rework of the rework!

It's like adding 0+0 - you still end up with 0 or in that case broken game.

[Humorpalanta]

12 minutes ago, Odo_Toothless said:

All content belongs to WG, players are only using them. When You buy something ingame, You are paying for ability for playing it as it is or it will be, as long as Your account is active. Nothing more, nothing less. You can like it or not, but those are a facts.

 

You can say it and I know it is in the EULA but just because it is there it doesn't make it lawful.

In the EU if you paid for something it is yours. And don't even get me started on the fact that it is still not released after 6 years just so they can claim to change anything. Wouldn't stand in front of EU juristiction just noone cares enough to take it on them.

 

To OP:

 

You can get Russian Refund. Tops.

 

 

[Odo_Toothless]

15 minutes ago, Humorpalanta said:

just because it is there it doesn't make it lawful.

This is not about lawfulness, but current real sitaution. Facts are for now, Your premium BB could be changed even into submarine. Players don't like it ? It's their problem, nobody forced them to buy anything. It's like opening a factory in China, moving there all machines, knowledge and be unhappy about just produced fakes of his own products, thanks to it ;-).

 

btw. Rework is not final, as they said, so mayby things would improve with time.

[The_Norwood]

Take as an example the USS Salem, advertised as an effective AA cruiser, which it indeed was. You buy it because it is an effective AA cruiser, then one patch later it is ineffective as an AA cruiser, with even tier 8 Cvs being able to kill it with one wing of planes and the Salem cannot stop this anymore. This is a tangible downgrade, it is no longer effective at it's stated purpose.  This means you have been ripped off. If the patch gave it different, but equally capable abilities for it's advertised purpose, no problem, no compensation required, but this is not the case. Now WG has made AA so apparently you need multiple ships to combat aircraft, the AA of one ship not being good enough to do this - so what is the Salem now? it is no longer an AA cruiser because it can't perform that task anymore,  WG has tacitly admitted as much by advocating the blob as the only means of combatting planes (which also fails miserably btw).

Many players have been asking WG to make AA effective and they have refused, stating that it is a minority of players who want this. So, if the ship you paid money for can no longer do the things you bought it for because of a downgrade applied by WG, then it is no longer the ship you paid for and compensation should be due.

[firerider202]

Vor 1 Stunde, Wannna sagte:

Hello,

 

No words from WG, they don't care. But I won't let go :)

 

Where is our compensation for nerfing Premium secondary ships ?

The thing is, they didn't. 

Premium ships are only excluded from direct nerfs, however, not from global or systematic changes to. The captain rework is considered as this. 

You brought a ship with stats xyz, it still has the same stats xyz. You won't get compensation, and there is no need to ask for one. 

[Odo_Toothless]

2 minutes ago, The_Norwood said:

 then it is no longer the ship you paid for and compensation should be due.

According to WG You are buing a privilage to use the service, not a ship. And Salem is not even a real premium, but was free to get for free XP. So Salem was strong AA ship, player get what he wanted for this period, service was consumated and that's it.

[The_Norwood]

They can do what they want with the free ships,  but as soon as you pay actual money for any ship it falls under the consumer legislation of whichever country you are in. Swap the Salem for the Alaska,  advertised as having efficient AA, or the Atlanta. Same rules apply. None of them are effective anymore, they are all worse than they were when you paid money for them. This is not tweaks, which the majority of players would be fine with, this is a wholesale downgrade of every single paid for ship in your fleet. The value attached to them has decreased, this is against consumer law in many countries, including UK and EU.

 

[StonerStanley]

23 minutes ago, The_Norwood said:

They can do what they want with the free ships,  but as soon as you pay actual money for any ship it falls under the consumer legislation of whichever country you are in. Swap the Salem for the Alaska,  advertised as having efficient AA, or the Atlanta. Same rules apply. None of them are effective anymore, they are all worse than they were when you paid money for them. This is not tweaks, which the majority of players would be fine with, this is a wholesale downgrade of every single paid for ship in your fleet. The value attached to them has decreased, this is against consumer law in many countries, including UK and EU.

 

[Captain_Singleton]

2 hours ago, Wannna said:

Hello,

 

No words from WG, they don't care. But I won't let go :)

 

Where is our compensation for nerfing Premium secondary ships ?

what 'premium' ships are you talking about?

[Maris_Piper]

I would be very Happy to get my Coal back for my now screwed over Flint, i just sits there now in Port out ranged by T-3's and having to fight T-9's if I venture into Randoms. alas there will be some small print saying we don't own the ship it remains the property of War Gaming etc so I would imagine I would be relying an WG to do the right thing by it's customers, Therefore I would say I'm probably  ed. At this on moment in time a Russian Refund would be a welcome option 

[hypsar]

fck this

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 2 Stunden, Wannna sagte:

Where is our compensation for nerfing Premium secondary ships ?

How did they nerf them? They nerfed commander skills afaik, which are NOT a premium feature (yet).

[lovelacebeer]

It was similar with the CV rework, whilst people with premium CVs were offered refunds (in the form of doubloons not real refunds) people who owned premium ships that were advertised as having great AA got nothing other than being told to gut good.