The Dockyard Experience as a free 2 play

[The_Chiv]

Puerto Rico

Time 180hrs of game play(not even joking)

Missions were punishing and just time grinds designed to force people to spend money.

Rating of ship based on time investment and playability(1-10) 3

The ship is not bad and has the potential to alpha strike any cruiser to death in one salvo. Its ability to punish any bb as well is also very nice, however the time and cost to obtain instantly makes this ship a cautionary tale about how greedy WG truly is.

 

Odin

Time 30 hrs give or take 

Missions were much more friendly but WG put in a mandatory pay us to complete. Luckily I had left over coins from xmas event I never spent

 

 

Rating of ship based on time investment and playability(1-10) 5

The mandatory pay to play for this ship was a bit annoying but the grind was far less punishing. This ship would be rated a bit higher in my opinion if not for the commander rework.

if you missed getting this ship just get the Agir as it is very similar and has better accuracy.

 

Anchorage

Time 30hrs give or take

Grind was simple enough but again WG forcing pay to play on community

 

Rating of ship based on time investment and playability(1-10) 5

This ship was rated as a 7 but the rework kind of punished most cruisers and its t7 guns tend to be lacking when up tiered in a t10 match

 

Hizen

Time 38 hrs

Wg pushed their pay to play for this ship to new levels. In previous incarnations the cost was generally around 3-4k this time it was 7.8k to aquire this. There was an option for a limited time to pay 5k but I was banking off loot crates to fund this got my last bit a little late. Luckily I was able to get a string of dubs from loot crates including the new lunar new years. THANKS WG :D Missions were surprisingly easy.

 

Rating of ship based on time investment and playability(1-10) 4. If no commander rework 7

Sadly ships that are under 22km range in this meta tend to be at a huge disadvantage, lukily the angles on this boar allow for kiting. This ship has the same armor design as the Yamato, just with less armor. This means it has a giant weak spot in its front cheeks.

 

 

Overall the Dockyard experience has been a wonky rollercoaster. With each iteration WG as asked for more and more money from the community, for ships that tend to be rather lack luster. They are not bad ships overall. In fact I would rate most of them as Average or slightly below tech tree equivalent ships. I enjoy all of them but if if these were offered for cash money I would never pay full value for them. Hell even 50% feels a bit too much. On the plus side I was able to get another ship I did not have because of the grind for the HIZEN

 

 

 

 

 

[triumphgt6]

Well done - confess to have played the game long enough that :

1. I cannot be bothered to grind.

2. Don't need these ships.

However impressed with your determination and hope they give you a lot of satisfaction.

[Humorpalanta]

If they want to give away a ship for free it is okay but then it shouldn't be so hardly impossible.

 

If they clear the rules and say that hey, there is a chance that if you play the game continously you can get this ship cheap with some doubloon investment, I say: It is fine. I understand nothing is free and they also need profit as they are a company.

 

All in all: First one was disgustang but since then I am okay with this as it is an acceptable way of doing things and you can receive some nice stuff while doing the missions.

The Dockyard thing is not the biggest problem currently and it is not even in top 10.

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

Strictly free-to-play here.

 

I never bother with the dockyard and I'm happier for it. This is not to say you're doing it wrong, OP, I'm just sharing my experience. I play the game how I want and if I complete a stage, fine. If not, also fine.

 

For the current dockyard, I just might get the Yahagi in the next 15 days (some premium days dropped from a lunar crate), but maybe also not *shrug*

[The_Chiv]

2 hours ago, triumphgt6 said:

Well done - confess to have played the game long enough that :

1. I cannot be bothered to grind.

2. Don't need these ships.

However impressed with your determination and hope they give you a lot of satisfaction.

to be fair the PR grind was done out of spite as a big F U to WG. When I was streaming I was making up my own songs which had the same profane variations of my disdain for their practices. I still do this off stream :D

[Hugh_Ruka]

2 hours ago, Bindolaf_Werebane said:

Strictly free-to-play here.

 

I never bother with the dockyard and I'm happier for it. This is not to say you're doing it wrong, OP, I'm just sharing my experience. I play the game how I want and if I complete a stage, fine. If not, also fine.

 

For the current dockyard, I just might get the Yahagi in the next 15 days (some premium days dropped from a lunar crate), but maybe also not *shrug*

same here (except the strictly free-to-play, I bought some premium time in the past and a few ships).

 

WG has yet to find a way to reward skill instead of persistence ... but since you cannot buy skill, I doubt they'll ever bother ....

[The_Chiv]

2 minutes ago, Hugh_Ruka said:

same here (except the strictly free-to-play, I bought some premium time in the past and a few ships).

 

WG has yet to find a way to reward skill instead of persistence ... but since you cannot buy skill, I doubt they'll ever bother ....

I would argue Base xp is more about skill as consistently winning and getting over 2k is a bit difficult.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

The dockyard events are very grindy for someone on my level which means I have to pick and choose which ones to go for. The fact that WG now clearly tells us how much we need to pay for in addition to the missions is a huge improvement over the PR scamdal. I've no problems with the current format because it is transparent.

[MementoMori_6030]

Just finished MY dockyard F2P experience with the expected result:

 

 

[The_Chiv]

1 minute ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

Just finished MY dockyard F2P experience with the expected result:

 

 

need to find that Oprah meme. You get a markov and you get a markov

 

[COPlUM]

I fail to see the problem with dockyard, I like them.

> Want to spend money? Get an average premium at a big discount.
> Don't want to spend money? Get a ton of freebies.

If they would put an overpowered premium in there, everyone would get it and people would complain about seeing the ship too much.
None of the dockyard ships are bad premiums, they just aren't very good either. Like for a kid with less disposable income, they can get a real premium for $10 or whatever, they probably care far less about what's meta and why. Also collectors, some people just buy all the ships lol

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

5 minutes ago, NikolayKuznetsov said:

I fail to see the problem with dockyard, I like them.

> Want to spend money? Get an average premium at a big discount.
> Don't want to spend money? Get a ton of freebies.

If they would put an overpowered premium in there, everyone would get it and people would complain about seeing the ship too much.
None of the dockyard ships are bad premiums, they just aren't very good either. Like for a kid with less disposable income, they can get a real premium for $10 or whatever, they probably care far less about what's meta and why. Also collectors, some people just buy all the ships lol

Totally agree.

 

I play how I play and I get some coal, some flags and a crate or two. Can't complain.

 

Except I haven't gotten a Makarov 

[1MajorKoenig]

Dockyard not for me. Don’t like the model and don’t want to participate.

[DFens_666]

Didnt care for PR, because that was obviously insane

Didnt do Odin because spending my doubloons on that ship seemed useless to me (i am f2p)

Finished Anchorage because looked interesting to me

Dont do Hizen (but got Yahagi for the doubloons), because ship is uninteresting.

 

Basicly if i get something - nice, but i dont go into trouble to finish it, except Anchorage.

[The_Chiv]

15 minutes ago, NikolayKuznetsov said:

I fail to see the problem with dockyard, I like them.

> Want to spend money? Get an average premium at a big discount.
> Don't want to spend money? Get a ton of freebies.

If they would put an overpowered premium in there, everyone would get it and people would complain about seeing the ship too much.
None of the dockyard ships are bad premiums, they just aren't very good either. Like for a kid with less disposable income, they can get a real premium for $10 or whatever, they probably care far less about what's meta and why. Also collectors, some people just buy all the ships lol

The thing though is before dockyard most of those ships were special event ships and were given away by completing task. I have a slew of them in on account. It wasn't until the cossack did wg start to monetize it. And that was 1 usd plus a grind. Then the prices slowly increased. The cost of a hizen if you did all the steps was 31.20 usd. And if you didnt want to do any of the task you could just buy the whole thing at a cost of 187.20usd. Now I want you to stop and consider this amount for a t9 ship. When WG already sells Premium FXP and special event ships like the lunar new years collection for 77usd. So you are paying 2.5x more for Hizen then you would a regular premium t9 ship. Seems a bit sus. WG. Now you don't have to get them and it is a choice. Which is why I save my doubloons so that choice is always based on my savings and WGs own mechanics.

 

 

[The_Chiv]

9 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

Didnt care for PR, because that was obviously insane

Didnt do Odin because spending my doubloons on that ship seemed useless to me (i am f2p)

Finished Anchorage because looked interesting to me

Dont do Hizen (but got Yahagi for the doubloons), because ship is uninteresting.

 

Basicly if i get something - nice, but i dont go into trouble to finish it, except Anchorage.

Insane may not be apt. Predatory is more fitting.

As for the rest. I could have skipped them all and gotten me A Tirpitz. Oh right commander rework. NM.

[wot_2016_gunner]

I'm strictly F2P and tbh, i'm fine with the new dockyards, mostly because while i haven't grinded any of the dockyard ships, they are just a bit too grindy for me (i don't really play a lot) the majority of the community, assuming they want the ship, they are able to grind it and get it, so i'm fine with it. (also because it's more transparent)

Technically i did got one "dockyard" ship; Tachibana which i consider a partecipation reward, plus she's OP at Tier 2 and Tier 2 is still a fun Tier (no CV, no radar, no hydro, no HE spam, no BBs that dev strike you across the map) 

 

There is only one thing i have small issue with: the fact that with the new system, the antier building annimation feels a bit like a waste of potential, because with the PR, at least in concept, it was: you grind up to a certain point and then you can just wait for your ship to be built over time; you wanted to get it quicker? then you grinded more. With the new ones, the dockyard is pretty much just a discount over the total ammount of doublons you'll have to spend and so, you can get rid of all the fancy graphics and animation and just put a background image and it would work just fine (i think they'll do somethign like this with the German DD split dockyard event). Also (unless you bought the premium packs) you could't get PR from day one, if you have enought dubs, now you can, which kinda makes the building process, kinda pointless. 

[OVanBruce]

I just wish that all phases of the dockyard could be completed with any class

[DinkyDi]

gg OP, for finishing all these Dockyards as f2p.

for me, I was unable to do it. When I had time to play the game, only one set of missions were open and then I got behind with all the grind and never finished anything. Same story with the Hizen right now

[Karasu_Browarszky]

30 minutes ago, OVanBruce said:

I just wish that all phases of the dockyard could be completed with any class

 

I infer that you know how some of them can be a royal pain in the stern section to finish.

[Jethro_Grey]

Got the Hizen recently on my alt-account and yes, it was less grindy than the PR crap fiesta. Did the majority in coop on both accounts, so less stress with bad term mates. Doesn't mean it was a good or enjoyable event tho.

[wot_2016_gunner]

1 ora fa, OVanBruce ha scritto:

I just wish that all phases of the dockyard could be completed with any class

 

31 minuti fa, Karasu_Hidesuke ha scritto:

I infer that you know how some of them can be a royal pain in the stern section to finish.

Yeah, i 'd really like to have a bit more variety/sinergy/"number" of missions like, instead of having to complete like 6 missions and the max number is 8, for example, why not give us more missions, like 10 or 12, so we can choose which ones to grind, instead of being "forced" to do specifics ones/playing spacific ships/classes/nations with class/nation specific missions

[NobleRipper]

In theory, I like the presentation of the Dockyard events; unfortunately in practice, they either take ages to load or fail altogether, which seems like poor optimisation when the game can load an entire map with thirty players in significantly less time. As was mentioned above, I'd expect to see the animations going the way of the dodo before too long (it's already started, with the German Dockyard you could watch the Spee being built in the background albeit with somewhat less detail; in the Japanese one, there was just a Tachibana on a slip and a Yahagi in the harbour, doing nothing). Then again, anything that keeps the update sizes down is a win in my book.

 

As far as the rewards are concerned, I go for the free ships and ignore the last ones as (thanks to WG's new 'n' improved communication skills since the PR incident!) I know in advance that the only way I'll be getting them is by paying, which I can't be bothered to do. I think there was also some coal in one event that I was happy to get hold of as it let me afford another ship; aside from that, none of the flags/premium time/free XP/fail crates etc. is of interest. To be honest, it can be a real disappointment when I complete a moderately strenuous grind only to get a handful of flags.

[Gwynbleidd11]

How often WG does these Dockyard events?

[wot_2016_gunner]

1 ora fa, Gwynbleidd11 ha scritto:

How often WG does these Dockyard events?

after one, wait a patch or two and there should be another one; the next one will be when the German DD split comes out