SkollUlfr Players 1,170 posts 6,026 battles Report post #1 Posted January 31, 2021 the captain perk mechanics arent russian bias the fire mechanics arent russian bias the flood mechanics arent russian bias the ballistic arc mechanics arent russian bias the module damage mechanics arent russian bias the weapon velocity multiplier mechanics arent russian bias the detection range mechanics arent russian bias the cv vs aa mechanics arent russian bias the i just realised i can use ctrl v for this mechanics arent russian bias the overmatch mechanics arent russian bias the dispersion mechanics arent russian bias the sigma mechanics arent russian bias the passive aa vs active aa ability mechanics arent russian bias the ground penetrating radar mechanics arent russian bias the ground penetrating sonar mechanics arent russian bias the no LoS spotting mechanics arent russian bias the catapult/patrol fighter vs squadron mechanics arent russian bias the lockon causing shells to fall short mechanics arent russian bias i guess the captains of all those thunderes spamming he 30km into 30 meter targets are putting jam in their tea? perhaps people can stop derailing threads, over a 10 year old meme, and maybe stick to the topics in those threads, or let them die? /needed to vent 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,686 posts 15,931 battles Report post #2 Posted January 31, 2021 Do you feel better now? 2 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TF57] Fatal_Ramses Players 1,289 posts Report post #3 Posted January 31, 2021 Here! Have a Snickers, sounds like you could use one. 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] Miragetank90 Players 2,626 posts 18,609 battles Report post #4 Posted January 31, 2021 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,800 posts Report post #5 Posted January 31, 2021 Hotel? TRIVAGO 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,781 posts 26,386 battles Report post #6 Posted January 31, 2021 Just wait until the RU CVs come out. 1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,197 posts 27,367 battles Report post #7 Posted January 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Just wait until the RU CVs come out. You mean the very famous ones that really kicked butt in ww2? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkollUlfr Players 1,170 posts 6,026 battles Report post #8 Posted January 31, 2021 57 minutes ago, Shaka_D said: Do you feel better now? i do actually. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] geschlittert Players 874 posts 9,523 battles Report post #9 Posted January 31, 2021 The russian bias theme is definitely overexaggerated, especially by some big wows youtubers... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,050 posts 25,094 battles Report post #10 Posted January 31, 2021 Funnily enough during clan brawls we were discussing that the Russian bias discussion had gone all quiet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] Miragetank90 Players 2,626 posts 18,609 battles Report post #11 Posted January 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said: Funnily enough during clan brawls we were discussing that the Russian bias discussion had gone all quiet. Because skill rework is flavour of the month right now. Then It'll be Italian BBs. Then, eventually, subs. And an RU ship/line will come eventually one way or another and irrefutable proof(/s) of Russian Bias will be back on the table. The nature of things. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,496 posts 23,830 battles Report post #12 Posted January 31, 2021 OP are you sure the source of the salt isn’t closer to home?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,205 posts 25,363 battles Report post #13 Posted January 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, geschlittert said: The russian bias theme is definitely overexaggerated, especially by some big wows youtubers... Try actually playing AND understanding the game. It might help you understand that some big WoWS youtubers di not really "overexaggerate". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] geschlittert Players 874 posts 9,523 battles Report post #14 Posted January 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said: Try actually playing AND understanding the game. It might help you understand that some big WoWS youtubers di not really "overexaggerate". I do play and understand the game. The only real OP thing is Petro in Clan wars, hated that ships, no matter if i had to play as it or against it. I am only talking about T10 btw as i dont really play any other tiers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R-M] Iskarioth Players 1,633 posts 16,457 battles Report post #15 Posted January 31, 2021 Compare the approach of nerfing the Kremlin to the way of nerfing the MvR. Just a meme, huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,207 posts 38,989 battles Report post #16 Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Nibenay78 said: You mean the very famous ones that really kicked butt in ww2? They would kick all to the curb if they were built though! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,197 posts 27,367 battles Report post #17 Posted January 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, Yedwy said: They would kick all to the curb if they were built though! Clearly! lets assume they were of the T-34 quality. Nice design and easy to mass produce but I can imagine warships with poor welding and 5cm gaps between the plates! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] geschlittert Players 874 posts 9,523 battles Report post #18 Posted February 1, 2021 30 minutes ago, Iskarioth said: Compare the approach of nerfing the Kremlin to the way of nerfing the MvR. Just a meme, huh? You want the Kremlin to be even worse? (it worse out of meta before the rework, havent played since that POS hit the game) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R-M] Iskarioth Players 1,633 posts 16,457 battles Report post #19 Posted February 1, 2021 Just now, geschlittert said: You want the Kremlin to be even worse? (it worse out of meta before the rework, havent played since that POS hit the game) Read the sentence again - one ship got nerfed in the smallest possible babysteps, the other one just got smacked with the nerfbat so hard, it broke. Finetuning for thee ( in case you are russian) no shits given nerfhammer for me ( if I am german carrier they sold for [edited]tons of money and then broke a month later) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunleader Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,595 posts 13,380 battles Report post #20 Posted February 1, 2021 3 hours ago, SkollUlfr said: the captain perk mechanics arent russian bias the fire mechanics arent russian bias the flood mechanics arent russian bias the ballistic arc mechanics arent russian bias the module damage mechanics arent russian bias the weapon velocity multiplier mechanics arent russian bias the detection range mechanics arent russian bias the cv vs aa mechanics arent russian bias the i just realised i can use ctrl v for this mechanics arent russian bias the overmatch mechanics arent russian bias the dispersion mechanics arent russian bias the sigma mechanics arent russian bias the passive aa vs active aa ability mechanics arent russian bias the ground penetrating radar mechanics arent russian bias the ground penetrating sonar mechanics arent russian bias the no LoS spotting mechanics arent russian bias the catapult/patrol fighter vs squadron mechanics arent russian bias the lockon causing shells to fall short mechanics arent russian bias i guess the captains of all those thunderes spamming he 30km into 30 meter targets are putting jam in their tea? perhaps people can stop derailing threads, over a 10 year old meme, and maybe stick to the topics in those threads, or let them die? /needed to vent Actually. I would dare Claiming that WoWs has quite the Russian Bias. Pls note. This is not related to the Conspiracy Theory stuff etc. But rather the actual and proper meaning of Bias. You see. In its Normal meaning. "Being Biased" means you fail to make an Objective Judgement because You have a Favorable or Unfavorable Opinion of something. And thus your Judgement moves ever so Slightly towards Satisfying that Preexisting Bias. Now. Most Russian Ships in the Game. Especially in Higher Tier. Tend to have good Options towards the General Meta. For example. The Ability of Russian Battleships to use Damage Con in fast Succession. It doesnt Sound like a Big Deal. But Fire is pretty much the Biggest Danger to a well Position Battleship. And Russian BBs thanks to Strong Deck Armor and this Damage Control. Tend to be very Resilent to it. The Ability of the Russian Unique Captain is also a good Example. See. Most other Nations Captains have far Stronger Abilities. But these Abilities generally only Trigger when you already Accomplished something Big. Which means it generally happens towards the End of the Game in the course of an already happening Carry or when the Game is already Decided anyways. It only very rarely Sways the Result. The Russian Captain however gets an Ability that is almost always used. And which makes a Real Difference as well. Russians also tend to get Icebreaker Bows and above 32mm Deck Armor on Cruisers which is a really small Difference in General. But in the Situation of Overmatching it helps Tremendously. They also get Guns with Improved Short Range accuracy and Strong AP as well as Flat Trajectory. Which is all Hidden Values. And while you get the Drawback of Bad Accuracy on High Range. The Ranges of 15+km where this happens. Tend to not be Ranges where Fights will be Dangerous or Decisive anyways. And this is a Pretty common Pattern. Russian Ships almost always are matching the Meta and gain Bonusses which will be useful in Common Situations Now Pls note. This has nothing to do with some Conspiracy of making Russian Ships Stronger. Or because WG wants to Present Russian Stuff in a Good Light. Its simply a Bias. The Devs are mostly Russian. And have their Tastes and Preferences. And while they likely really go into Development and Balancing of a Ship with the Intention of Creating a Balanced Ship in the Game. They will often Subconsciously choose Ideas and Abilities which they have a Positive Mindset about. Thats also why I can already tell you. If we ever see Russian CVs for example. They will come with Strong Abilities to Destroy DDs and wont have Weak Torpedoes. They will likely have Slow but Tanky Planes and Squadrons which have fewer Wings but Stronger Drops etc. Which will not really be Stronger than other CVs in most Situations. But will be a Big Bonus in the fairly common Game Deciding Action of Destroying the Enemy DDs first. And that is indeed. A Bias :) 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] asalonen Privateer 787 posts 15,095 battles Report post #21 Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Iskarioth said: Compare the approach of nerfing the Kremlin to the way of nerfing the MvR. So is the Kremlin overperforming currently? I don't see the ship being played particularly often and when I do see it, I don't feel any special performance. When I play it myself, it doesn't feel like an especially strong tier 10 battleship. Manfred was very clearly overperforming. When I checked the top Manfred players around November, they were commonly getting 10 to 20 % more damage than in the other tier 10's. This despite Manfred getting a lot of irrepairable alpha damage. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,075 battles Report post #22 Posted February 1, 2021 I'm disappointed. There used to be all sorts of visual 'salty' memes. What happened to them? Who wants to see just boring black text on a white background? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 2,808 posts 10,640 battles Report post #23 Posted February 1, 2021 Russian DDs? They're so OP the last time you have seen anyone play them was 2016. Russian BBs? Sure, very OP if they get close, don't let them get close? Lets not pretend ships are ever within 14km of eachother anymore. Russian CAs? Sure, very OP if they get close and you give them broadside, trash in every other scenario. Russian CLs? Mediocre HE spammers, ooh, scary. Meanwhile Giulio Cesare, Belfast, Musashi, T-61 and Massa continue to not be Russian so nobody cares. 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #24 Posted February 1, 2021 7 hours ago, El2aZeR said: Just wait until the RU CVs come out. Imagine how thicc they will be doe. I remember Queen Russia Dabbing on the entire japanese, german, incan and polish fleet during the battle of the baltic states 1947. Put enty to shame and she got 300 battle stars while standing at the end of her ship with hands on hips and a big smug smile on her face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,052 posts 7,885 battles Report post #25 Posted February 1, 2021 The things you mentioned have nothing to do with the way the different nations are implemented in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites