[RODS] Ronchabale Players 2,503 posts 8,754 battles Report post #1 Posted January 31, 2021 If I take Def Fire AA there is no carrier AA spec - no carrier 2 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBF-] Lieut_Gruber Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 827 posts 16,626 battles Report post #2 Posted January 31, 2021 Check this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 2,503 posts 8,754 battles Report post #3 Posted January 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lieut_Gruber said: Check this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias I know, it´s like changing queue line in the supermarket.. It is ing irritating tho 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAKEN] ColonelPete Players 35,681 posts 17,903 battles Report post #4 Posted January 31, 2021 Then do not let your mind trick you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 2,503 posts 8,754 battles Report post #5 Posted January 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Then do not let your mind trick you. As in the title V or ML Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] The_Chiv Players 1,592 posts 18,060 battles Report post #6 Posted January 31, 2021 AA spec is kind of a myth to be honest to you. The protection you actually get breaks down to maybe 2 to 3 more dead planes per attack on you. This is also with you doing sector enhancement. So in the short term it wont really help you. However in terms of attrition it does add up, as long as the cv keeps throwing planes at your ship over and over again rather then finding other targets with weaker aa to pick on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkollUlfr Players 1,168 posts 6,026 battles Report post #7 Posted January 31, 2021 watched a helena get murdered yesterday by a ryujo after announcing in chat he was full aa spec and wanted to test it. between rockets and torps and being spotted, he was dead just as fast as any other build. watching bot squadrons fly right through the summon fighter of the meat cv makes it clear weegee cant or wont allow impactful counters to cv. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Hidesuke [I-J-N] Players 10,393 posts Report post #8 Posted January 31, 2021 You never know if you are going to meet a carrier or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kapnobathrac Players 506 posts Report post #9 Posted January 31, 2021 When I first got halland got no carriers the first 5 games. And usually when I pick Friesland I get no carriers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LX] NewHorizons_1 [LX] Players 1,746 posts 34,750 battles Report post #10 Posted January 31, 2021 5 hours ago, Ronchabale said: If I take Def Fire AA there is no carrier AA spec - no carrier You forgot missions for events such as dockyard etc. Score X 'Aircraft shot down' ribbons - no carrier 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WOB] Lootboxer Players 3,388 posts 18,503 battles Report post #11 Posted January 31, 2021 Total waste of skill points. First slight buff to inadequate protection will not turn it into adequate, second you will compromise severely in combat effectiveness against remaining 3 classes and your skills will completely wasted and useless in about half of games when you will see no aircraft at all. It's the same with a choice between defaa and hydro or speed boost. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 2,503 posts 8,754 battles Report post #12 Posted January 31, 2021 14 minutes ago, DariusJacek said: Total waste of skill points. First slight buff to inadequate protection will not turn it into adequate, second you will compromise severely in combat effectiveness against remaining 3 classes and your skills will completely wasted and useless in about half of games when you will see no aircraft at all. It's the same with a choice between defaa and hydro or speed boost. Same or higher tier.. yeah Have found that it can make the carrier go for the lesser "evil" ship and vs lower tier carriers it can help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WOB] Lootboxer Players 3,388 posts 18,503 battles Report post #13 Posted January 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ronchabale said: Same or higher tier.. yeah Have found that it can make the carrier go for the lesser "evil" ship and vs lower tier carriers it can help It can happen but it is too rare case to be worth the hassle for me. At least in randoms. If CV want me dead he will throw at me many planes as needed. Unless Halland But if it works for you... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] asalonen Privateer 768 posts 14,224 battles Report post #14 Posted January 31, 2021 AA builds only make sense in competetive games where you KNOW you likely face skilled carrier players. And that those carrier players WILL focus you or a team mate near you. In randoms AA builds really pay off in maybe 10 % of battles, and even then they don't pay off big time since the effect of the build isn't that great. The alternative build -- whatever it is in your ship -- is guaranteed to pay off much more often. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atorpad Players 669 posts 18,829 battles Report post #15 Posted January 31, 2021 Since DefAA has no effect I always prefer hydro case closed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,589 posts 23,953 battles Report post #16 Posted January 31, 2021 7 hours ago, Ronchabale said: If I take Def Fire AA there is no carrier AA spec - no carrier Better question: Does it actually make a difference? 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Hidesuke [I-J-N] Players 10,393 posts Report post #17 Posted January 31, 2021 7 hours ago, Ronchabale said: If I take Def Fire AA there is no carrier AA spec - no carrier 8 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Better question: Does it actually make a difference? Well, if the purpose of the AA spec is to get you games with no carriers... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NSVE] iFax Players 480 posts 16,280 battles Report post #18 Posted January 31, 2021 AA is a waste of skill points. Spend it on fire reduction or other skills that mitigate CV attack damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FMJ] Gebbly Players 182 posts Report post #19 Posted February 2, 2021 On 1/31/2021 at 11:09 AM, Ronchabale said: If I take Def Fire AA there is no carrier AA spec - no carrier Sounds like a perfect consumable to invest in. Nevermind a consumable to increase AA defence, use the slot to magically guarantee no carriers :) 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Tanaka_15 Beta Tester 2,186 posts 18,598 battles Report post #20 Posted February 2, 2021 Well with AA skills you have more pif paf bevore CV kills you. With no AA skills less pif paf and CV kills you. The question is do you like pif paf? if so take the skill if not dont take the skill. hope i halped :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FMJ] Gebbly Players 182 posts Report post #21 Posted February 2, 2021 21 minutes ago, Tanaka_15 said: Well with AA skills you have more pif paf bevore CV kills you. With no AA skills less pif paf and CV kills you. The question is do you like pif paf? if so take the skill if not dont take the skill. hope i halped :) Lol, I love the idea of the consumable "Defensive pif paf" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HassenderZerhacker Players 1,295 posts 3,868 battles Report post #22 Posted February 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Tanaka_15 said: Well with AA skills you have more pif paf bevore CV kills you. With no AA skills less pif paf and CV kills you. The question is do you like pif paf? if so take the skill if not dont take the skill. hope i halped :) Capitaine Haddock would ask: "A pu pif paf?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Bellegar Beta Tester 1,845 posts Report post #23 Posted February 2, 2021 There is no such thing as an AA spec Also this thread is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites