[CW-EU] _DaVeZeD_ Players 4 posts 3,618 battles Report post #1 Posted January 27, 2021 i dont care if you ban me or not, i am for real suffering. i cant stand this crap cv anymore. it was playible before the "sight" rework, t6 ships just shoots my planes down. andf its almost imposible to play at high tier, atleast add more planes in a sqaudron. saipan big disadvantage bad AA no secondary(which i dont rlly care of) little amount of figters which doesent do anything very little amount of planes in a squadron and thats the biggeset issue(getting shoot down by t6 often and cant even get close to a AA cruiser at t7,8,9,10. 4 13 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #2 Posted January 27, 2021 Just now, _DaVeZeD_ said: i cant stand this crap cv anymore. And thus getting the PA version falling out of a crate is all but guaranteed...! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #3 Posted January 27, 2021 29 minutes ago, _DaVeZeD_ said: t6 ships just shoots the plane down If T6 ships can kill your planes in large numbers then the issue sits between your keyboard and the back of your chair. 15 12 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[4PHUN] Aixin Players 1,084 posts 7,420 battles Report post #4 Posted January 27, 2021 Vor 5 Minuten, El2aZeR sagte: If T6 ships can kill your planes in large numbers then the issue sits between your keyboard and the back of your chair. Well his planes didn't die before the patch apparently. Aa on low tiers didn't change tbh. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #5 Posted January 27, 2021 Just stop playing CVs all together and pick them up again once you understand that the issue is on you and not the ships you play. 6 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K1NGS] PaP_Mentoles [K1NGS] Players 616 posts 17,494 battles Report post #6 Posted January 27, 2021 ΟΚ. WG, please remove AA from ships so CVs can farm damage without harassment 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #7 Posted January 27, 2021 50 minutes ago, _DaVeZeD_ said: i am for real suffering Whilst taking the mickey is the natural response; the following may be of help: Your only other CV (that you've played in Randoms) appears to be a T4. Your first step is to play lower tier CVs until you understand the class better (Ops in T6s are a good way to practice against fairly painless opposition). Once your skills/experience have caught up a bit, then return to Saipan (which, I gather, isn't exactly easy mode for most people anyway). Finally, get some advice from proper CV players, as my skill-set is more about avoiding CVs, and killing planes when I can't evade. While there is some scope for AA builds with the captain rework, I'd be very surprised if many people are using them - you generally give up too much when you focus heavily on AA. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #8 Posted January 27, 2021 3 hours ago, _DaVeZeD_ said: i dont care if you ban me or not, i am for real suffering. i cant stand this crap cv anymore. it was playible efore the sight rework, t6 ships just shoots the plane down. Saipan needs a bit more cautious squadron management. Shorten squadrons unless you can afford risks in the end game, pick easy targets if possible. The weapons hit pretty hard though - she is a very fun and interesting ship - just requires a bit more caution 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #9 Posted January 27, 2021 Eff off pal 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #10 Posted January 27, 2021 5 hours ago, _DaVeZeD_ said: i dont care if you ban me or not, i am for real suffering. i cant stand this crap cv anymore. it was playible efore the sight rework, t6 ships just shoots the plane down. If I could, I would grant you your wish and ban you, simply for the fact that you're playing CVs. But I can't, so I will offer you a few comforting words instead. I can understand your pain and suffering, but so is everyone else. So, suck it up. As others said, the issue here are you. I wonder tho, are Enterprise players suffering as well? Or is it limited to Saipan players? Ranked went surprisingly well, so I didn't feel the need to play either of the two CVs. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] BlackYeti Players 995 posts 14,827 battles Report post #11 Posted January 27, 2021 5 hours ago, PaP_Mentoles said: ΟΚ. WG, please remove AA from ships so CVs can farm damage without harassment Wait, ships have aa? 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #12 Posted January 28, 2021 WG please buff ships, i keep being seen and shot at. Plz giv stealf cloak... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #13 Posted January 28, 2021 When I bought Saipan years ago discounted on "summer sale" (not that I ever played her) she was OP. That is no longer true. I would like to exchange her for Alasca please. Will take Missouri also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K1NGS] PaP_Mentoles [K1NGS] Players 616 posts 17,494 battles Report post #14 Posted January 28, 2021 8 hours ago, BlackYeti said: Wait, ships have aa? What do you mean? They don't have? And what are those BB bullets I see in the air? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SOTE] DinkyDi Beta Tester 220 posts 2,722 battles Report post #15 Posted January 28, 2021 CV player suffering ? good good good now you have 1% knowledge of our suffering Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #16 Posted January 28, 2021 Buy a Kaga, you have to work hard to run out of planes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #17 Posted January 28, 2021 43 minutes ago, PaP_Mentoles said: What do you mean? They don't have? And what are those BB bullets I see in the air? New year fireworks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #18 Posted January 28, 2021 Even if OP has the wrong reasons for his statement: The dispersion nerf to Tiny Tims hit Saipan pretty hard and it wasn't in the best place to begin with. I think it does in fact need a bit of love... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KRILL] BananaMo Players 160 posts 5,885 battles Report post #19 Posted January 28, 2021 15 hours ago, PaP_Mentoles said: ΟΚ. WG, please remove AA from ships so CVs can farm damage without harassment Wait a minute, isn´t that already the case? I mean you basicly have AA but in the end there isn´t any difference to no AA 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #20 Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, BananaMo said: Wait a minute, isn´t that already the case? I mean you basicly have AA but in the end there isn´t any difference to no AA Nope. And yes there is a significant difference. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #21 Posted January 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: Even if OP has the wrong reasons for his statement: The dispersion nerf to Tiny Tims hit Saipan pretty hard and it wasn't in the best place to begin with. I think it does in fact need a bit of love... You could be right, certainly jumping in it after using Kaga or enterprise is painful. When bottom tier, the planes disappear so quickly. Indomitable though...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #22 Posted January 28, 2021 Saipan suffered after sight change really bad.. because of low number of TiTs. But tier 6s killing your tier 10 midway planes?? Thats not the ships fault.. Thats your fault mate. An no, even though I have a strong emotional attachment to her and cried a little bit after the sight change, when I got my guts to play her again, she can still do really well If you know how to treat her. Rockets are a little more lottery now.. thats all.. She was the hardest CV to play at 8.. (not counting Brits) she is a little bit harder than that now.. Basically, I wrote all of the above, just not to write git gud and not to be seen as a bad boy 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atorpad Players 669 posts 19,065 battles Report post #23 Posted January 28, 2021 But let's be honest Sapan is't same she used to be ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunleader Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,710 posts 13,400 battles Report post #24 Posted January 29, 2021 Before anyone even thinks about Buffing Saipan they should take a Look at Graf Zeppelin. That Ship was already on the Weak Side before the Sight Change because its Dive Bombers are basicly Useless. Now with the Sight Change its basicly got 2 Worthless Squadrons. Only the Torpedo Bombers remaining to be of any Use. And Even these are not actually Good but just barely get a Passing Grade thanks to their Speed.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-FF-] elblancogringo Players 1,207 posts 7,342 battles Report post #25 Posted January 29, 2021 I recently came back to the game after a break of several months. What are these sight changes and Tiny Tims nerf I saw earlier on this thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites