[BTT-W] BunnyKill4h Players 5 posts 8,290 battles Report post #1 Posted January 22, 2021 Thoes anyone think like me that Massa was killed 21 jan 2021 3 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PASOK] Setterus Players 94 posts 10,687 battles Report post #2 Posted January 22, 2021 Reduces yes, killed no. You can't rely only to your secondaries. I'm still running her in ranked with success. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BTT-W] BunnyKill4h Players 5 posts 8,290 battles Report post #3 Posted January 22, 2021 As you know his main battery guns have epic accuracy so secondary guns was very helpful - now isnt 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #4 Posted January 22, 2021 Yea horribly under powered now... 10 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ENUF] SnuSnu_RIP [ENUF] Players 858 posts 36,533 battles Report post #5 Posted January 22, 2021 You never rely on secondaries on a BB, same for Massachusetts. The mainguns do the most of the damage, it was like that before and after. Yes, the secondaries are nice, but very situational, and just like a bonus. It's the same if a Tirpitz players relies only on his 6km torpedos... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,949 battles Report post #6 Posted January 22, 2021 The benefit of the rework that I’ll probably spec out of the secondary meme builds and use more sensible tank builds on my brawlers. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMA] Prophecy82 Players 3,362 posts 26,028 battles Report post #7 Posted January 22, 2021 Imagine pushing in with a BB after this patch.... 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TCLS] Lukewehr Players 243 posts 33,378 battles Report post #8 Posted January 22, 2021 57 minutes ago, Yedwy said: Yea horribly under powered now... Nice game indeed , care to share your commander build and which techtree ship is attached to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] Captain_Singleton Players 3,184 posts 20,102 battles Report post #9 Posted January 22, 2021 maybe if you looked at some other recent threads you would have found this - 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #10 Posted January 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Lukewehr said: Nice game indeed , care to share your commander build and which techtree ship is attached to? Sure... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DPRK] StonerStanley Players 275 posts 4,993 battles Report post #11 Posted January 22, 2021 2 hours ago, BunnyKill4h said: Thoes anyone think like me that Massa was killed 21 jan 2021 people who disliked were killed by a massa while backline sniping 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TODN] BrotherOrion Players 37 posts 11,454 battles Report post #12 Posted January 22, 2021 3 hours ago, SnuSnu_RIP said: You never rely on secondaries on a BB, same for Massachusetts. The mainguns do the most of the damage, it was like that before and after. Yes, the secondaries are nice, but very situational, and just like a bonus. It's the same if a Tirpitz players relies only on his 6km torpedos... Feels like 85% of the tirpitz players play her like this. And if in doubt try to ram her into the enemy ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ENUF] SnuSnu_RIP [ENUF] Players 858 posts 36,533 battles Report post #13 Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, BrotherOrion said: Feels like 85% of the tirpitz players play her like this. And if in doubt try to ram her into the enemy ship. yeah thats why they buy Tirpitz, a ship i dont recommend anymore. Look at the stats of the Tirpitz on the EU server - its awful. 100k dmg = 5000PR, thats how they ruined this ship already :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FBC] Logan_MountStuart Players 416 posts 10,715 battles Report post #14 Posted January 22, 2021 Have to agree with the comments that say the demise of secondary Massachusetts has been greatly exaggerated. Still incredibly potent and shredding DDs at will, but too many people have opinions gathered from ONE day of playing under the new conditions, maybe if things are bad after a month then it's an issue, but of course no one tested the changes when they had the opportunity and are still surprised their favourite streamer doesn't like them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #15 Posted January 22, 2021 Massachusetts : An exact copy of what was formerly the best T8 battleship, except it has - 50% faster turrets - Improved agility - Immune to taking citadel damage at short - short/medium ranges - A quickheal - Secondaries Yeah, totally unplayable because of the slight nerf to secondaries (which other ships never had) it's not like it's better than every other T8 battleship in every conceivable way. If by "unplayable" you mean stupidly overpowered instead of hilariously overpowered, then yes, Massa is unplayable. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[4PHUN] Aixin Players 1,084 posts 7,420 battles Report post #16 Posted January 22, 2021 Vor 6 Stunden, BunnyKill4h sagte: Thoes anyone think like me that Massa was killed 21 jan 2021 All secondary builds are useless now. Try tankbuild with deadeye that's meta now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BTT-W] BunnyKill4h Players 5 posts 8,290 battles Report post #17 Posted January 22, 2021 5 godzin temu, NikolayKuznetsov napisał: Massachusetts : An exact copy of what was formerly the best T8 battleship, except it has - 50% faster turrets - Improved agility - Immune to taking citadel damage at short - short/medium ranges - A quickheal - Secondaries Yeah, totally unplayable because of the slight nerf to secondaries (which other ships never had) it's not like it's better than every other T8 battleship in every conceivable way. If by "unplayable" you mean stupidly overpowered instead of hilariously overpowered, then yes, Massa is unplayable. without secondary + better guns = USS Alabama 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X-10] ___V_E_N_O_M___ Players 2,129 posts 14,292 battles Report post #18 Posted January 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Setterus said: Reduces yes, killed no. You can't rely only to your secondaries. I'm still running her in ranked with success. Alabama was always the better of the two south dakotas and is now even better 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X-10] ___V_E_N_O_M___ Players 2,129 posts 14,292 battles Report post #19 Posted January 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Aixin said: All secondary builds are useless now. Try tankbuild with deadeye that's meta now. what is deadeye?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #20 Posted January 22, 2021 5 hours ago, NikolayKuznetsov said: Yeah, totally unplayable because of the slight nerf to secondaries (which other ships never had) it's not like it's better than every other T8 battleship in every conceivable way. If by "unplayable" you mean stupidly overpowered instead of hilariously overpowered, then yes, Massa is unplayable. With the buff to mainbattery reload, i think massa got stronger actually. Who cares if you get slightly less secondary hits? In ranked, you can get even use out of the "secondaries engage both sides", and secondaries opening up even if you dont have a target selected (with manual sec) is nice aswell, because you might not realize all the time that a ship suddenly enters or get spotted within the secondary range. Sure, randoms might be different, atleast when you face T10. But being in T10 MM sucked before aswell, so where is the difference? In T6 MM, you can just smash them even harder. Main battery > Secondaries. If ships are very close, secondaries still hit everything, so its not even an issue all the time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #21 Posted January 22, 2021 11 hours ago, SnuSnu_RIP said: The mainguns do the most of the damage 6 Hits on a Broadside Smolensk at 8km.... 4,600 dmg.... Sorry, but you're talking complete... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #22 Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said: what is deadeye?? -10 to Main Battery Dispersion (4 point skill) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #23 Posted January 22, 2021 43 minutes ago, Migantium_Mashum said: 6 Hits on a Broadside Smolensk at 8km.... 4,600 dmg.... Aim on or just under the waterline, watch it go boom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badjakker Players 27 posts 8,380 battles Report post #24 Posted January 22, 2021 The change is to much compared to the old Massa secondary build. Couldnt even kill a 1/3 hp DD on 6 km range within 30 secs, before that wouldnt have been a problem. I mostly play secondary ships, but i guess fun is no more. Good stuff WG. Why did you even make this rework? I guess it's for your stupid idea to bring subs into the game, and or grab some more money from people that cant wait to get a lvl 21 capt. Also. Bought Massa - Pommern (lol) and Georgia for their secondary capabilities, that is close to € 200,00, and you change it so that they are no longer performing like before the "rework" Shame on you! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T0L0S ∞ Players 180 posts 12,663 battles Report post #25 Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, NikolayKuznetsov said: Aim on or just under the waterline, watch it go boom Oh you mean watch it overpen and/or hit the water lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
