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Reduces yes, killed no. 

You can't rely only to your secondaries. 

I'm still running her in ranked with success. 

 

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  As you know his main battery guns have epic accuracy so secondary guns was very helpful - now  isnt

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Yea horribly under powered now... :Smile_sceptic:

 

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You never rely on secondaries on a BB, same for Massachusetts. The mainguns do the most of the damage, it was like that before and after. Yes, the secondaries are nice, but very situational, and just like a bonus. It's the same if a Tirpitz players relies only on his 6km torpedos... 

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The benefit of the rework that I’ll probably spec out of the secondary meme builds and use more sensible tank builds on my brawlers.

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57 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

Yea horribly under powered now... :Smile_sceptic:

 

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Nice game indeed , care to share your commander build and which techtree ship is attached to?

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maybe if you looked at some other recent threads you would have found this - 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Lukewehr said:

Nice game indeed , care to share your commander build and which techtree ship is attached to?

Sure... :Smile_smile:

 

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2 hours ago, BunnyKill4h said:

Thoes anyone think like me that Massa was killed 21 jan 2021

people who disliked were killed by a massa while backline sniping

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3 hours ago, SnuSnu_RIP said:

You never rely on secondaries on a BB, same for Massachusetts. The mainguns do the most of the damage, it was like that before and after. Yes, the secondaries are nice, but very situational, and just like a bonus. It's the same if a Tirpitz players relies only on his 6km torpedos... 

Feels like 85% of the tirpitz players play her like this. And if in doubt try to ram her into the enemy ship.

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1 hour ago, BrotherOrion said:

Feels like 85% of the tirpitz players play her like this. And if in doubt try to ram her into the enemy ship.

yeah thats why they buy Tirpitz, a ship i dont recommend anymore. Look at the stats of the Tirpitz on the EU server - its awful. 100k dmg = 5000PR, thats how they ruined this ship already :D

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Have to agree with the comments that say the demise of secondary Massachusetts has been greatly exaggerated.

Still incredibly potent and shredding DDs at will, but too many people have opinions gathered from ONE day of playing under the new conditions, maybe if things are bad after a month then it's an issue, but of course no one tested the changes when they had the opportunity and are still surprised their favourite streamer doesn't like them.

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Massachusetts : An exact copy of what was formerly the best T8 battleship, except it has

- 50% faster turrets
- Improved agility
- Immune to taking citadel damage at short - short/medium ranges
- A quickheal

- Secondaries

 

Yeah, totally unplayable because of the slight nerf to secondaries (which other ships never had) it's not like it's better than every other T8 battleship in every conceivable way. If by "unplayable" you mean stupidly overpowered instead of hilariously overpowered, then yes, Massa is unplayable.

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Vor 6 Stunden, BunnyKill4h sagte:

Thoes anyone think like me that Massa was killed 21 jan 2021

All secondary builds are useless now. Try tankbuild with deadeye that's meta now. 

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5 godzin temu, NikolayKuznetsov napisał:

Massachusetts : An exact copy of what was formerly the best T8 battleship, except it has

- 50% faster turrets
- Improved agility
- Immune to taking citadel damage at short - short/medium ranges
- A quickheal

- Secondaries

 

Yeah, totally unplayable because of the slight nerf to secondaries (which other ships never had) it's not like it's better than every other T8 battleship in every conceivable way. If by "unplayable" you mean stupidly overpowered instead of hilariously overpowered, then yes, Massa is unplayable.

without secondary + better guns = USS Alabama 

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11 hours ago, Setterus said:

Reduces yes, killed no. 

You can't rely only to your secondaries. 

I'm still running her in ranked with success. 

 

Alabama was always the better of the two south dakotas and is now even better

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5 hours ago, Aixin said:

All secondary builds are useless now. Try tankbuild with deadeye that's meta now. 

what is deadeye??

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5 hours ago, NikolayKuznetsov said:

Yeah, totally unplayable because of the slight nerf to secondaries (which other ships never had) it's not like it's better than every other T8 battleship in every conceivable way. If by "unplayable" you mean stupidly overpowered instead of hilariously overpowered, then yes, Massa is unplayable.

 

With the buff to mainbattery reload, i think massa got stronger actually. Who cares if you get slightly less secondary hits? In ranked, you can get even use out of the "secondaries engage both sides", and secondaries opening up even if you dont have a target selected (with manual sec) is nice aswell, because you might not realize all the time that a ship suddenly enters or get spotted within the secondary range.

Sure, randoms might be different, atleast when you face T10. But being in T10 MM sucked before aswell, so where is the difference? In T6 MM, you can just smash them even harder.

Main battery > Secondaries. If ships are very close, secondaries still hit everything, so its not even an issue all the time.

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11 hours ago, SnuSnu_RIP said:

The mainguns do the most of the damage

 

6 Hits on a Broadside Smolensk at 8km.... 4,600 dmg.... 

 

Sorry, but you're talking complete...

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1 hour ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

what is deadeye??

-10 to Main Battery Dispersion (4 point skill)

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43 minutes ago, Migantium_Mashum said:

6 Hits on a Broadside Smolensk at 8km.... 4,600 dmg....

Aim on or just under the waterline, watch it go boom

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The change is to much compared to the old Massa secondary build. Couldnt even kill a 1/3 hp DD on 6 km range within 30 secs, before that wouldnt have been a problem.

I mostly play secondary ships, but i guess fun is no more. Good stuff WG.

 

Why did you even make this rework? I guess it's for your stupid idea to bring subs into the game, and or grab some more money from people that cant wait to get a lvl 21 capt.

 

Also.

 

Bought Massa - Pommern (lol) and Georgia for their secondary capabilities, that is close to € 200,00, and you change it so that they are no longer performing like before the "rework"

Shame on you!

 

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1 hour ago, NikolayKuznetsov said:

Aim on or just under the waterline, watch it go boom

 

Oh you mean watch it overpen and/or hit the water lol. 

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