[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #1 Posted January 21, 2021 Instead of setting all the skills to zero, all the skills of your captains have been replaced. If one of the skills you had does no longer exist, it has been replaced automatically with another skill, probably considered recommended for that class. So, basically, if you had 19 points captain with all the skills allocated, you would still have 19 points captain with all the skills allocated, but some of them are not the ones you selected or would select. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LCDP] Chocan Beta Tester 166 posts 28,054 battles Report post #2 Posted January 21, 2021 Yes, that's what they announced a while back. Not the best choice but it will prevent player that don't pay attention to the releases to enter a battle without any selected skill. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #3 Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Chocan said: Yes, that's what they announced a while back. Not the best choice but it will prevent player that don't pay attention to the releases to enter a battle without any selected skill. But a captain that did not play for 2-3 weeks will find his captains in a mess... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PUPSI] Klopirat Freibeuter 15,160 posts Report post #4 Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, 22cm said: But a captain that did not play for 2-3 weeks will find his captains in a mess... but imho it is much better to have the choice if you want a "general reset" or not instead of a forced reset of all captains... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LCDP] Chocan Beta Tester 166 posts 28,054 battles Report post #5 Posted January 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, 22cm said: But a captain that did not play for 2-3 weeks will find his captains in a mess... It is more: a captain that doesn't play during 0.10.0 will find his captain in a mess, and without a free reset to fix them. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #6 Posted January 21, 2021 58 minutes ago, 22cm said: So, basically, if you had 19 points captain with all the skills allocated, you would still have 19 points captain with all the skills allocated, but some of them are not the ones you selected or would select. Yes, I agree. That is quite confusing. What I'm also finding confusing is these multiple skill sets and Premium ships.... Let me try and explain. My Krasny Krym has a 17 point captain. His specialism is the Gnevny. A ship I no longer have, btw. It has never mattered, because you can move captains onto Premium Ships without having to retrain. I have gone in and reset his cruiser skills for the KK. All of which seems fine. He has no selected BB or CV skill sets. He does, however, have a DD skill set (you can only see this by clicking on "All Skills", where it displays the number of unallocated points). BB 17, CV 17, DD 1. The DD Skills picked are not ones I would choose ( No CE for a start ). But I can't edit them because it's a DD set, and he's currently on a cruiser. So to get to work on his DD skill set I have to put him on a DD. To do this for free, it has to be a Premium DD. So the upshot of this seems to be that you need to take care with Captains currently assigned to a Premium Ship but specialised for a ship of another class - because you could end up with an allocated set of skills for the original class that you didn't pick and don't want, and can only change for free is you have a Premium ship of that other class. Hope that makes sense..... ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #7 Posted January 21, 2021 Vor 1 Minute, invicta2012 sagte: Hope that makes sense..... ! https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/145953-commanders/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zieten Beta Tester 298 posts 6,940 battles Report post #8 Posted January 21, 2021 We all know why they did this. So that people forget a few captains while respec is free - and have to pay later to give them a decent spec. Another badly concealed attempt at squeezing out a little more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R3B3L] HystericalAccuracy Players 1,505 posts 40,428 battles Report post #9 Posted January 21, 2021 I just realized that my DoY-captain has lost concealment expert I mean, replacing skills with similar ones is ok, but just taking away CE, jeez ... It is a BB so it will still work but I´ll reset all captains and then use just few ships until the mess clears up a bit. On yesterday´s stream a WG-guy said explicitly "the rework isn´t done by far, we will still adjust the skills after they go live". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #10 Posted January 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, VIadoCro said: On yesterday´s stream a WG-guy said explicitly "the rework isn´t done by far, we will still adjust the skills after they go live". Following the success of the glorious CV reeeeeeeework. Because they "learned" from that as they stated in a stream... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TF57] MightyMac22 Players 70 posts Report post #11 Posted January 21, 2021 What has actually happened is that they have replaced all your selected skills with the ones that they think are best suited to the ship. Not anything close to what you had in some cases. I would not be surprised if there are many frustrated players now trying to work out what exactly the nearest match to what they had was. Some wont have a clue. its going to be interesting now though as people wont automatically know whats coming around the corner. Armour schemes are the same yes, but the threat level could well be very differant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #12 Posted January 21, 2021 39 minutes ago, invicta2012 said: To get to work on his DD skill set I have to put him on a DD. To do this for free, it has to be a Premium DD. Or rebuy Gnevny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,562 battles Report post #13 Posted January 21, 2021 HI all, 2 hours ago, 22cm said: Instead of setting all the skills to zero, all the skills of your captains have been replaced. If one of the skills you had does no longer exist, it has been replaced automatically with another skill, probably considered recommended for that class. So, basically, if you had 19 points captain with all the skills allocated, you would still have 19 points captain with all the skills allocated, but some of them are not the ones you selected or would select. Working as intended / planned by WG... this is their way of "showing the plebs" what are the proper captains skills to be used for each and every ship you after rework... Leo "Apollo11" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #14 Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Leo_Apollo11 said: HI all, Working as intended / planned by WG... this is their way of "showing the plebs" what are the proper captains skills to be used for each and every ship you after rework... Leo "Apollo11" The real sad thing is that 90% of the players will really believe it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BanzaiPiluso Players 1,217 posts 13,126 battles Report post #15 Posted January 21, 2021 The time I have to invest into this crap, man. Also WG choosing names for skills is just amazing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Maris_Piper Players 2,012 posts Report post #16 Posted January 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said: Working as intended / planned by WG... this is their way of "showing the plebs" what are the proper captains skills to be used for each and every ship you after rework.. If it's making money it's working as intended Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,562 battles Report post #17 Posted January 21, 2021 HI all, 15 minutes ago, 22cm said: The real sad thing is that 90% of the players will really believe it... Yep... Leo "Apollo11" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #18 Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Chocan said: Yes, that's what they announced a while back. Not the best choice but it will prevent player that don't pay attention to the releases to enter a battle without any selected skill. I beg to disagree in the strongest possible terms. Coming back post Feb 15 to see your captains are a mess and you are having to pay to get the fixed (reset) is a far bigger issue in my book. We are now having to go here: https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/general-news/commander-skills-update/ ... and press this. Oh, right.. Discuss. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SINT] Jvd2000 Players 1,639 posts 31,167 battles Report post #19 Posted January 21, 2021 Taking my first look. Already have doubts about the skills that are “ promoted” as being smart to pick. HP buff for cruisers perk is wise? Went for the total reset of all captains ( will doublecheck if captains in reserve get reset as well) But this is not cool...luckily have all my snowflakes reset and will only play the minimum type of ships and keep most of my captains unspecced ( or play and unspecced after play) until the dust settles. Until then minimum play ( 30 days to get Yahagi, WG can keep the credits for Anshan).. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UIF] I_come_bearing_gifts Players 272 posts 39,279 battles Report post #20 Posted January 21, 2021 Who needs rpf on a DD? According to the rework it is not recommended. But on DD hunters it's a must. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UIF] I_come_bearing_gifts Players 272 posts 39,279 battles Report post #21 Posted January 21, 2021 Ohhh, and you don't need that survivability expert on that DD. You really need to check your DD builds 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] DeviousDave02 [TACHA] Players 679 posts 3,786 battles Report post #22 Posted January 21, 2021 Looks at auto CV Captain skills thinking maybe this won't be too bad... Sees "Take reduced Flak damage" at 4 points slotted in.... Hit's reset skills. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGP2W] niclasknig [WGP2W] Players 433 posts 20,673 battles Report post #23 Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, invicta2012 said: Yes, I agree. That is quite confusing. What I'm also finding confusing is these multiple skill sets and Premium ships.... Let me try and explain. My Krasny Krym has a 17 point captain. His specialism is the Gnevny. A ship I no longer have, btw. It has never mattered, because you can move captains onto Premium Ships without having to retrain. I have gone in and reset his cruiser skills for the KK. All of which seems fine. He has no selected BB or CV skill sets. He does, however, have a DD skill set (you can only see this by clicking on "All Skills", where it displays the number of unallocated points). BB 17, CV 17, DD 1. The DD Skills picked are not ones I would choose ( No CE for a start ). But I can't edit them because it's a DD set, and he's currently on a cruiser. So to get to work on his DD skill set I have to put him on a DD. To do this for free, it has to be a Premium DD. So the upshot of this seems to be that you need to take care with Captains currently assigned to a Premium Ship but specialised for a ship of another class - because you could end up with an allocated set of skills for the original class that you didn't pick and don't want, and can only change for free is you have a Premium ship of that other class. Hope that makes sense..... ! You can reset all skills with the magic button! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCBG] BrusilovX Beta Tester 2,838 posts 23,900 battles Report post #24 Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: I beg to disagree in the strongest possible terms. Coming back post Feb 15 to see your captains are a mess and you are having to pay to get the fixed (reset) is a far bigger issue in my book Thanks for that link it's useful. I logged in this morning and my 19 point captain on the USA BB line (Montana) now has one free skill point. I guess I'll just reset all my captains and worry about it later. I hope this doesn't reset which ship they are trained on though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TRID] TheAlba2014 Players 400 posts 6,393 battles Report post #25 Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: I beg to disagree in the strongest possible terms. Coming back post Feb 15 to see your captains are a mess and you are having to pay to get the fixed (reset) is a far bigger issue in my book. We are now having to go here: https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/general-news/commander-skills-update/ ... and press this. Oh, right.. Discuss. Reset all skills button...great addition, now where is the free demount all upgrades button to go with it, since this is also free at the moment? Oh well... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites