[SCRUB] Novawatsit Players 2 posts Report post #1 Posted January 16, 2021 So i was in a CV T8 and Shimmakaze who was 21KM away launched torps, i was completely undetected and had not been detected the entire game and moving away. yet they still hit me and got a devastating strike from 21KM. how is that even possible.. the fact that T8 CV even gets paired with T10 ships is BS to begin with because the planes cannot survive T10 AA, especially when its the weak CV's. 15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #2 Posted January 16, 2021 And you know he was always 21km away from you because...? 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #3 Posted January 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Novawatsit said: So i was in a CV T8 and Shimmakaze who was 21KM away launched torps, i was completely undetected and had not been detected the entire game and moving away. yet they still hit me and got a devastating strike from 21KM. how is that even possible.. the fact that T8 CV even gets paired with T10 ships is BS to begin with because the planes cannot survive T10 AA, especially when its the weak CV's. How do you know he launched them from 21km? Hint: Even CV can move. And if a Shima is not an easy target for you, maybe you should not play Tier VIII CV... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,557 battles Report post #4 Posted January 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, Novawatsit said: yet they still hit me and got a devastating strike from 21KM. 1 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #5 Posted January 16, 2021 Cv killed by shima 20km torps... Now theres something new Proof please 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ONE2] RAHJAILARI Players 3,160 posts 31,670 battles Report post #6 Posted January 16, 2021 This just goes to prove the benefits of occasionally using your engines and moving around the map a little bit. If you hadn't just sat on the same spot all game you would have quite easily avoided those torps. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #7 Posted January 16, 2021 35 minutes ago, Novawatsit said: the fact that T8 CV even gets paired with T10 ships is BS to begin with because the planes cannot survive T10 AA 3 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #8 Posted January 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, nambr9 said: Cv killed by shima 20km torps... Now theres something new Proof please I have gone back to 20km Shima torps a few times with great success... The 20km's love the Campers and Radar Bunnies if you fire right and taking down a CV who thinks he is safe tight behind the Island is pure magic. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCBG] BrusilovX Beta Tester 2,838 posts 23,907 battles Report post #9 Posted January 16, 2021 47 minutes ago, Novawatsit said: So i was in a CV T8 and Shimmakaze who was 21KM away launched torps, i was completely undetected and had not been detected the entire game and moving away. yet they still hit me and got a devastating strike from 21KM. how is that even possible.. the fact that T8 CV even gets paired with T10 ships is BS to begin with because the planes cannot survive T10 AA, especially when its the weak CV's. Please attach a game replay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snadge666 Players 128 posts Report post #10 Posted January 16, 2021 What I would like to know is how he knew Shima was 21km away when it has concealment of 5.6km. Also, no such thing as 'weak' CV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWDragon Players 1,297 posts Report post #11 Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, snadge666 said: What I would like to know is how he knew Shima was 21km away when it has concealment of 5.6km. I guess he spotted him or it was spotted ... its not as if DDs are always 100% hidden at all times. That also means its not spotted at 100% of the time and likely the Shima moved into 19km, launched and turned back and then got detected when it was over 20km away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snadge666 Players 128 posts Report post #12 Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, WWDragon said: I guess he spotted him or it was spotted ... its not as if DDs are always 100% hidden at all times. That also means its not spotted at 100% of the time and likely the Shima moved into 19km, launched and turned back and then got detected when it was over 20km away. Yeah, I know lol but it just made me laugh. Those 20km torps are SLOW, he could have been on the way back after launching them from 10km away, spotted CV who was oblivious to being spotted because, CV player, and was getting back into the proper gameplay ( CVs don't count). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] BlackYeti Players 995 posts 14,827 battles Report post #13 Posted January 16, 2021 If you got devstriked by 20km Shima torps, you probably deserved all of it 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #14 Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, BlackYeti said: If you got devstriked by 20km Shima torps, you probably deserved all of it I wanted to say "I hope he detonated, too" but then I remembered that they cannot be detonated anymore for "reasons" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D_S_W] doerhoff_damian Players 1,486 posts 34,518 battles Report post #15 Posted January 16, 2021 Let me guess he launched his Torps from under 20km away from you and then turn away. By the Time he was spottet he was 21km away from you and as a Result of this you thought you were save. 20km torps are the slowest torps that a Shima can launch. So i guess they had been launched more then a Minute before they got to you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #16 Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Migantium_Mashum said: I have gone back to 20km Shima torps a few times with great success... The 20km's love the Campers and Radar Bunnies if you fire right and taking down a CV who thinks he is safe tight behind the Island is pure magic. IDK man, never even tried Smima's 20 km torps :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMD] Spartan_93 [NMD] Beta Tester 1,137 posts 7,227 battles Report post #17 Posted January 16, 2021 Well, if the Shimakaze shot it 20 km torpedos, the torpedos will travel this 20 km. This takes a lot of time. In this time it is possible, to drive into this 20 km range. => Because of that, it is possible to hit targets which are at time of torpedo launch out of torpedo range. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #18 Posted January 16, 2021 The hard life of a CV just makes me tear up, man... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #19 Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, nambr9 said: IDK man, never even tried Smima's 20 km torps :) I have hit four campers with a full 15 Torpedo Salvo at one time... I didn't sink any of them but they didn't stay camping after that (One of my highest dmg tallies though at near 200,000) ... In fact I kept spamming them every reload whilst spotting them and they could do nothing about it... They were all sunk by my team. When you have to watch your backside you can hardly push forwards effectively. My other Shima Captain (also a lvl19) I have set to run 16km @ 70knots if I fancy long range and if I fancy a close game the same captain can use 6.4km @ 85 knots... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AAO] rnat Players 1,597 posts 21,919 battles Report post #20 Posted January 16, 2021 54 minutes ago, Migantium_Mashum said: I have hit four campers with a full 15 Torpedo Salvo at one time... I didn't sink any of them but they didn't stay camping after that (One of my highest dmg tallies though at near 200,000) ... In fact I kept spamming them every reload whilst spotting them and they could do nothing about it... They were all sunk by my team. When you have to watch your backside you can hardly push forwards effectively. My other Shima Captain (also a lvl19) I have set to run 16km @ 70knots if I fancy long range and if I fancy a close game the same captain can use 6.4km @ 85 knots... No offense intended but that doesn't sound like great achievement and more like they were absolutely useless. The 20km torps have a 2.7km torpedo detect, which is ~50% worse than the next worse torpedo. Also behind an enemy is the worst possible bearing to torpedo them from if I can interpolate that from your message. Assuming those 4 didn't have either active DD or CV support or more than 1 radar at their disposal you'd most likely have fared better with the 12km set in that situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBicentennialman Players 305 posts 4,265 battles Report post #21 Posted January 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Novawatsit said: So i was in a CV T8 and Shimmakaze who was 21KM away launched torps, i was completely undetected and had not been detected the entire game and moving away. yet they still hit me and got a devastating strike from 21KM. how is that even possible.. the fact that T8 CV even gets paired with T10 ships is BS to begin with because the planes cannot survive T10 AA, especially when its the weak CV's. all you have to do is support tick long with the replay of the match giving the info on what happened long with the person name WarGaming will check it out for you. there was no need to post this on the forum you will just be LAUGH AT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #22 Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Captain_Newman said: The hard life of a CV just makes me tear up, man... This is what I like about WOWS: the caring and supportive community - always here for the sad and unfortunate. It's really rather touching... 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SURFA] mdjmcnally Players 434 posts 18,363 battles Report post #23 Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Verblonde said: This is what I like about WOWS: the caring and supportive community - always here for the sad and unfortunate. It's really rather touching... Too many people been on the receiving end of perma spot by planes and not been able to hit back to have sympathy for CV players. I suck at cv play but even I can get through to strike at enemy ships without getting decimated by a higher tier ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #24 Posted January 16, 2021 46 minutes ago, mdjmcnally said: Too many people been on the receiving end of perma spot by planes and not been able to hit back to have sympathy for CV players. I'm a DD main - my tongue was very firmly in my cheek... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CDD] Dutchy_2019 Players 1,927 posts 13,499 battles Report post #25 Posted January 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Novawatsit said: So i was in a CV T8 and Shimmakaze who was 21KM away launched torps, i was completely undetected and had not been detected the entire game and moving away. yet they still hit me and got a devastating strike from 21KM. how is that even possible.. the fact that T8 CV even gets paired with T10 ships is BS to begin with because the planes cannot survive T10 AA, especially when its the weak CV's. The only thing I can think of right now is how all the other ships feel when they are uptiered and face a top tier CV. So sorry, but not sorry for not feeling sorry for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites