Commander Skills Update

[Lc4Hunter]

@Crysantos Thanks for the response but those "answers" feel like empty words... they say nothing.
I wrote many things down of what my (and other people´s) problems are. Your response was one line which is saying nothing...

I understand who have to defend this, it´s your job, but at the end, WG should remind themselfs: Who is paying you?

The answer is easy. The players. Many many players dont want this changes. They dont want to be the "live" betatesters.

 

Your video about the commander skills has nearly 60% negative reactions at the moment.

 

I really hope you will get a lesson after this goes live.
I already learned my lesson after spending much money on the game: You will not see any cent from me anymore.

[TheBicentennialman]

How do you think we cheat pleayers every single day? Can you give us some examples of those accusations?

are we forgettin about the Xmas lootbox

[Tall_Toot]

Thanks for the free resets.

 

However, I've no intention of trying to spend the grace period trying out free configurations on 100+ ships (i.e. beta-testing...), trying to keep up with the inevitable corrections over the next few months in the hope that I can get them all settled in a playable format before it starts to cost a fortune.

 

As a few on here have said, I'll be having a pint or two in the WInchester until this all blows over - say September - then read up how best to start again. Let the young and impressionable find out the hard/ costly way, thensee where things have settled.

 

If I haven't chosen to carry on playing something else obviously.....

 

....or you introduce something else completely game breaking.

 

Like submarines. I dunno, with homing torpedo's or something equally silly.

 

Wait, you are thinking of that???!!!!!

[kingbright]

38 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

1 hour ago, kingbright said:

Since I just bought Bert Dunkirk as a captain this week for gold in the armory, spent elite captain xp to retrain him to my beloved Neptune you are telling us now that the enhanced skill 'smoke screen expert', which improves the smoke radius by 10% more than the normal one, is being replaced by the enhanced 'consumable expert', which enhances the smoke generator by 2.5%.

 

Seriously?

 

Are you guys totally disconnected from every level of decency?

 

Shame on you.

Unfortunately few skills didn't make it to the updated skills and unfortunately one of them was Smoke Generator Expert. There is no skill that influence only smoke generator, so it was placed until consumables in general.

Do I get at least my gold and my elite captain xp back for Dunkirk? I bought George Doe and Bert Dunkirk just a couple of days ago in the armory for doublons.

I bought George Doe for the improved expert loader, which will be the same after the update, but the reason for me to buy Bertie goes out of the window.

Haven't played him once.

 

You basically sell stuff in your game which will be less worth next week without telling anyone. There was no hint whatsoever in the armory that this smoke screen expert will be gone. And there still is no remark about that.

 

You complain about my insult toward you.

Well, I have never felt so disrespected from a business company than your lot.

[S_h_i_v_a]

3 ore fa, Crysantos ha scritto:

The work on the German DD line has nothing to do with this - it will be the next branch after the release of IT BBs. So don't worry, we're currently working on the balancing aspect of IT BBs, while our 3D team is working on the models of the German DDs - different aspects of development to bring you all of this content to the game.

 

 

Excuse me, 

but before splitting more ship lines, does it not have more sense complete those actually incomplete?

Italy still has no BBs and no DDs (cannot get hands on Leone or Paolo Emilio).  Europe and Asia don't have cruisers.

Someone noted that in Pacific the Dutch navy did more dmg than the UK navy to Japan. Plans about a Dutch (european) line?

And instead inventing more fake CVs for Germany - only the Zeppelin was planned!),  give France, Russia and Italy a fake CV line for those who like that gameplay (i'm good with my Lex).

[TheWarJaC]

55 minutes ago, arquata2019 said:

We'll see what happens (everybody knows what will happen) first, but, why are you encouraging very high range gameplay? i don't like sniping from 18+ kilometers people (or get shot at that distance).

Hi Captain,
Not all of the playstyles suits the community whole; every player has their preferences, based on their skills and pace they are looking for within the game. 

Therefore, we don't want to exclude any possible solutions for gameplay.  Some users may privilege a meta over another: we don't think that offering this variety would ruin the quality of the battles.

[Vossil]

5 minutes ago, TheWarJaC said:

 Some users may privilege a meta over another: we don't think that offering this variety would ruin the quality of the battles.

Oh but it will, you bet. It's going to be a disaster.

[Rubytwo]

@Crysantos @YabbaCoe

 

Already asked to MrConway, but without any answer so far. As such I will redirect my question to you both.

 

Could you please explain the below mentionned phrase in your news article in depth as it is unclear to me. Furthermore, what will happen with captains on premium/freemium ships?

 

If a Commander is in the process of retraining, their retraining will automatically be completed with the release of Update 0.10.0. If a Commander is not tied to a ship of their specialization, they will be assigned to a ship of their specialization with the release of Update 0.10.0. This only applies to researchable ships.

[700]

On 1/14/2021 at 2:30 PM, BruceRKF said:

German BBs get a secondary accuracy bonus (still less accurate than before), but what about the French? There might not be many people that play them, but my secondary spec Alsace and République are amongst the most fun ships to play for me. They won't be any more with secondaries that can't hit s**t.

Where have you found that German BBs get secondary bonus?

[surfer_gr]

3 hours ago, John435i said:

Say you have a 10p captain you want to "recycle". That will cost you approx. 1665 doubloons. That will gain you 183k elite captain XP. To restore an old 19p captain back to elite status (21p) you need to recycle 1.2 million Commander XP wich will cost you a little over 10,900 doubloons = approx. 36 euro...for 1 captain!

this not what i said i said i have a tonn of commanders with up to 15 ponts  that are on ships i dont play anymore at all not even in coop only for snowflakes if i bother  now you can play a ship with no commander on it at all so if i dismiss those captaains not recycle them dismiss them get rid of them would prolly get enough elite commander xp to upgrade at least  a couple of 19 point captains to 21 mind you i have over 200 shipsin port over 60 19 point captains and sae up arround 23 million eite commander xp will cost me nothing to upgrade at least 20 captains to level 21 was only a suggestion i never said anything about using doubloons etc etc :P

[firerider202]

Vor 27 Minuten, 700 sagte:

Where have you found that German BBs get secondary bonus?

Devblog I guess? They get the base accuracy increased so that after the patch with manuals  you will get a 50% bonus on current values. Was poster yesterday

[firerider202]

Vor 13 Minuten, surfer_gr sagte:

this not what i said i said i have a tonn of commanders with up to 15 ponts  that are on ships i dont play anymore at all not even in coop only for snowflakes if i bother  now you can play a ship with no commander on it at all so if i dismiss those captaains not recycle them dismiss them get rid of them would prolly get enough elite commander xp to upgrade at least  a couple of 19 point captains to 21 mind you i have over 200 shipsin port over 60 19 point captains and sae up arround 23 million eite commander xp will cost me nothing to upgrade at least 20 captains to level 21 was only a suggestion i never said anything about using doubloons etc etc :P

You will still need a tone of credits then. When you dismiss them you won't get the elite xp for free you know,  you need either a lot of doubloons or even more credits. 

[Druid_fighter]

Where can I (if i can) find the full list of new captain skills ?

[sneakyscotsman]

On 1/14/2021 at 1:16 PM, Maris_Piper said:

Why wait you have turned the Flint into a Useless Piece of Junk, Steel Legend, More like a Joke168.000 coal flushed down the sewer, My contempt grows every day. Say what you will but Sorry  I just see another in an endless line of Cash Grabs with no thought of the players opinions yet again .I would ask one pertinent question What is the point of Investing Time and Money into a game when the Game Owner/Developer can just take away that investment and make Worthless the Money given in good faith at a whim with No Recompense or Compensation,   

COAL think yourself lucky i bought the bloody thing with steel now i hardly ever use it

[lorcon_1]

so am i right in asking if a captain has 19 points it will no longer be the highest rank and you will have to grind to 21 points to get elite status and be able to earn full commander xp unless you spend actual dubs or cash. if this is the case then does it not break some of the eu trading laws as it devalues what you have already worked or paid for.I do hope im wrong as i dont really want to have to grind my 19 point captains (even though i dont have many) back up to elite status

 

[YabbaCoe]

Před 2 hodinami Aixin řekl/a:

@YabbaCoe I have one question about the concealment skills for CVs. While I understand that it comes with a downside (reduced 50% plane speed while returning) I don't understand why it is also during the time planes flying to the immunity height. That leads to about 75% higher plane losses from returning planes (on MvR fast planes on other carriers its worse). That aspect makes that 4 point skill not only useless but also a downgrade in every single aspect. Is that intended or is it not known that the skill affects planes also during the climb to immunity height.

Further I want to ask if we can count on some sort of compensation for supercruiser due to them losing the survivability perks. 

Thanks in advance. 

:) 

How you managed to calculate +75% higher losses of that? When plane finish and attack, it climbs to immune height and with this skill fly slower towards home CV. This skill might inflect the time when planes are climbing, but definitely won't influence the losses with 75%.

 

There is no compensation planned for supercruisers.

 

Před 1 hodinou S_h_i_v_a řekl/a:

 

Excuse me, 

but before splitting more ship lines, does it not have more sense complete those actually incomplete?

Italy still has no BBs and no DDs (cannot get hands on Leone or Paolo Emilio).  Europe and Asia don't have cruisers.

Someone noted that in Pacific the Dutch navy did more dmg than the UK navy to Japan. Plans about a Dutch (european) line?

And instead inventing more fake CVs for Germany - only the Zeppelin was planned!),  give France, Russia and Italy a fake CV line for those who like that gameplay (i'm good with my Lex).

Italian battleships are coming very soon, they are basically around the corner.

We have plenty plans which lines to add next. Of course I can't tell you more, than what was already published on DevBlog.

 

Před 24 minutami Rubytwo řekl/a:

@Crysantos @YabbaCoe

 

Already asked to MrConway, but without any answer so far. As such I will redirect my question to you both.

 

Could you please explain the below mentionned phrase in your news article in depth as it is unclear to me. Furthermore, what will happen with captains on premium/freemium ships?

 

If a Commander is in the process of retraining, their retraining will automatically be completed with the release of Update 0.10.0. If a Commander is not tied to a ship of their specialization, they will be assigned to a ship of their specialization with the release of Update 0.10.0. This only applies to researchable ships.

All captains specialized for certain ships will be assigned to their ships with the release of the update. If you have more captains specialized for certain ship, only one of them will be assigned to that ship and the rest will be sent to reserves. If there won't be space in reserves, it will be expanded.

So captains that are for example trained on Bismarck, but are currently on Tirpitz will be sent to Bismarck.

Also if you are currently in process of retraining a commander to certain ship, with the release of the update, this training will be automatically completed.

 

Před 16 minutami 700 řekl/a:

Where have you found that German BBs get secondary bonus?

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/113

[surfer_gr]

4 minutes ago, firerider202 said:

You will still need a tone of credits then. When you dismiss them you won't get the elite xp for free you know,  you need either a lot of doubloons or even more credits. 

thats not a problem i have tonnes of those lols and elite commander xp   was just an idea the rest is up every individual is his choice

[firerider202]

Vor 1 Minute, surfer_gr sagte:

thats not a problem i have tonnes of those lols and elite commander xp   was just an idea the rest is up every individual is his choice

That's indeed a lot

[Ragnarox]

So Agir will have again standard secondary range of 7KM? or its still only garbage at 5KM base?

[Verblonde]

4 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

How do you think we cheat pleayers every single day? Can you give us some examples of those accusations?

Personally, I think 'every single day' is a little strong, but I do understand the poster's sentiment:

• On a trivial level, the default setting for cammo/signals that cost gold is to replenish automatically (and reactivates as such every time you move from having no signals/cammo mounted to mounting them again). If a player isn't *very* awake they will periodically involuntarily lose doubloons like this.
• The marketing materials this year for the Xmas boxes were flat-out misleading (and the refunds offered de facto acknowledged that), if you didn't already know how they work from the early years.
• The marketing materials for the Black Friday ships/doubloons missions are also misleading (in the context of how an average customer thinks/behaves); I use the word 'are' (present tense) deliberately as this has been highlighted every year that these things have been run, and - basically - none of the easy changes to improve matters have been made, so implying that a) it's deliberate, and b) it's not going to change.

That's three quick and easy examples off the top of my head. A cursory look at my account will demonstrate that I like the game (a lot) and am happy to spend stupid money on it, so I'm not some inveterate f2p whiner; however, I do expect a company to behave decently by the standards of the target market, and in this latter respect, WG have failed to do so on more than one occasion. I'm not sure I would use the word 'cheat', but I can understand why some people would, and I doubt if you truly can't understand that too...

[YabbaCoe]

Před 19 minutami Ragnarox řekl/a:

So Agir will have again standard secondary range of 7KM? or its still only garbage at 5KM base?

According to the table in this article, it should have 7.95kms secondary range.

[BraveExpress]

Hi, I have a question about Warspite, she currently has 5km base secondary range, 1km more than the current standard of 4km and equal to the current German/French base, will she:
 

Go to "German/French" range of 5.6km?

 

Stay at 5km (thereby eliminating her previous advantage almost entirely)?

 

One of the nice things Warspite has is the slightly buffed secondary performance, I think it would be a shame to have this partially disappear, since she also has slightly improved accuracy it means different builds from standard are a bit more viable on her.

[CptMinia]

Hello folks,

                    I've cleaned up the topic and look, I can tell that quite a few people are concerned about the latest announcements regarding upcoming changes and updates to the game. I can understand if there is confusion, a lack of clarity and lingering questions but Community Managers are trying to do their best to answer your pleas. However this does not give anyone the right to provoke, insult or attack them or anyone else. They are people, treat others with respect please.

 

With kind regards,

                               Minia

[Lc4Hunter]

Vor 19 Minuten, YabbaCoe sagte:

According to the table in this article, it should have 7.95kms secondary range.

 Please explain to stupid people like me: How does THIS create variety?
At the moment you have many ships with many different secondary ranges. After that update you have 2 different ranges per tier. The french/german one and the "other one".
This changes make ships more similar. Not different.
Or do i have a problem with understanding?

 

Vor 2 Minuten, CptMinia sagte:

Hello folks,

                    I've cleaned up the topic and look, I can tell that quite a few people are concerned about the latest announcements regarding upcoming changes and updates to the game. I can understand if there is confusion, a lack of clarity and lingering questions but Community Managers are trying to do their best to answer your pleas. However this does not give anyone the right to provoke, insult or attack them or anyone else. They are people, treat others with respect please.

 

With kind regards,

                               Minia

You better should wright: "people are angry"
And sorry, i dont see where the CMs do something except appeasing...
It feels like you don´t want to understand or you don´t care about us - the players.

[CptMinia]

6 minutes ago, Lc4Hunter said:

You better should wright: "people are angry"
And sorry, i dont see where the CMs do something except appeasing...
It feels like you don´t want to understand or you don´t care about us - the players.

Well as a fellow player yes, I do care since I am one of you...