Need recommendation for 2 Tr7-8 premium ships .

[NavalComedian]

As the title says it seems i can't settle myself on what premium ship to buy , i'm considering this due to the holiday coupons ( so yea WG strat is working fine  )

Although armoury only preferably . 

Thanks for your time .

[Eikkuu]

Il y a 38 minutes, Spectre_S_ a dit :

As the title says it seems i can't settle myself on what premium ship to buy , i'm considering this due to the holiday coupons ( so yea WG strat is working fine  )

Although armoury only preferably . 

Thanks for your time .

 

Witch class do you "main" ^^

[Miscommunication_dept]

T8 
Cruiser: Mainz/ Bayard

DD: Kidd is still good. Loyang

Battleship: Massa though Lenin’s guns are very very nice.

 

T7

Mostly I would say don’t buy anything. Matchmaking is cruel to tier 7 and the armour and concealment differences between T8 and T7 make that very painful.

[NavalComedian]

10 minutes ago, MyAngelAkagi said:

 

Witch class do you "main" ^^

I play all except CVs , but i like cruisers the most

[Dutchy_2019]

With Massa being removed in about a month, I would say Massachussetts is almost a must. It is a good BB, often fun, has its unique play style.

 

Personally I have to say I also like Scharnhorst, in its playstyle, but also for its use in Narai.

 

But for half decent advise it would be nice to have a little more info:

 

What classes do you like to play? What nations/lines? What ships are you good at? 

[Eikkuu]

Il y a 2 minutes, Spectre_S_ a dit :

I play all except CVs , but i like cruisers the most

For T8 : Massa, Prinz, Atago, Tirpitz, Kidd, Bayard or Lenin.
For T7: Munchen, Boise (weak armor but english heal), Lazo

I can't really tell you about DD l don't really know them.

[Dutchy_2019]

3 minutes ago, MyAngelAkagi said:

For T8 : Massa, Prinz, Atago, Tirpitz, Kidd, Bayard or Lenin.
For T7: Munchen, Boise (weak armor but english heal), Lazo

I can't really tell you about DD l don't really know them.

For DD, ones that I have been seeing pop up regularly: T-61 (The German T7 DD) and Cossack (T8). More unique in play style: Asashio (T8).

[lafeel]

4 minutes ago, Dutchy_2019 said:

For DD, ones that I have been seeing pop up regularly: T-61 (The German T7 DD) and Cossack (T8). More unique in play style: Asashio (T8).

T-61 is tier 6, Z-39 is the tier 7.

[Dutchy_2019]

2 minutes ago, lafeel said:

T-61 is tier 6, Z-39 is the tier 7.

Thanks, I have corrected it.

[NavalComedian]

I have Lenin and Le terrible  from last years Christmas containers , but due to the conspiracy about this year's containers i decided to straight buy 2 ships (55% discount also is nice due to special coupons ). 

Lenin is a good reliable workhorse  and i'm slowly moving up the regular RU BB line 

Le terrible  - i feel the name is appropriate , sadly it's not for me 

I like ships that are balanced more so than one trick ponies  .

 

So far i'm liking the look of Mainz  

[Ocsimano18]

T8: Massachusetts (best pick of all), Tirpitz (somewhat power crept but still fun, alternatively get Pommetn for coal), Mainz (good and fun), Atago (top tier once you master kiting), Cossack (best T8 DD)

T7: Scharnhorst, but also get Duke of York for coal.

T6: Arizona (the secret pick nobody talks about).

[Hopeless_Guppy]

6 minutes ago, Spectre_S_ said:

I have Lenin and Le terrible  from last years Christmas containers , but due to the conspiracy about this year's containers i decided to straight buy 2 ships (55% discount also is nice due to special coupons ). 

Lenin is a good reliable workhorse  and i'm slowly moving up the regular RU BB line 

Le terrible  - i feel the name is appropriate , sadly it's not for me 

I like ships that are balanced more so than one trick ponies  .

 

So far i'm liking the look of Mainz  

Mainz is good but boy oh boy they should have given that thing a heal.

T8 DD's, Asashio and Kidd would be my firm recommendations, although I suck bad in all types tbh

 

Not really a cruiser guy and for some reason never got on with the Prinz Eugen, which does have a heal, I feel the need to revisit that one and maybe re evaluate

 

BB's Tirpitz is one solid ship, and the same can be said for the Scharnhorst at tier 7,also tier 7, the Sims is always fun,another t8 I am re acquainting myself with (and this may have something of the Thunderer HE  lobbing effect) is the Vanguard, a ship i previously hated,, beginning to like her a lot more lately.

 

You say you don't play CV's, well thats good but if there were any recommendations it would be Kaga, or the now defunct Big E, Big E like any CV is only good in a good player hands,I find it easy to de plane her, and the Kaga I feel is a bit weak for tier 8, to me it is still the tier 7 ship it used to be, and the aircraft HP could use some love.

[Miscommunication_dept]

1 hour ago, lafeel said:

T-61 is tier 6, Z-39 is the tier 7.

And the T61 is much better than the z-39.

[Verblonde]

2 hours ago, Spectre_S_ said:

what premium ship to buy

Difficult to comment intelligently without being able to see your stats. That said, I can probably offer the most useful input on DDs:

• T-61; yes, I know you said T7-8, but tier-for-tier it's one of the best DDs in the game. If the whole smoke/hydro thing appeals, Z-39 a tier higher is also good; it does have the 'big' guns though, so may not be as good a match with a typical silver KM DD captain. In both cases, a coal hydro mod is a good investment.
• Cossack is excellent at T8 (another coal mod candidate): great stealth, decent dakka, and the torps single launch (which makes up a bit for only having the one launcher). Your main weakness is having appalling AA, but you do get the RN smoke which mitigates that a bit. Unlike the regular line, you get engine boost too.
• Haida is very similar to Cossack, only a tier lower (coal mods helpful, yet again); she's probably the best T7 DD, but has the problem of having no matching silver line, so you should probably avoid her unless you have a means to get a 10 point captain from the off.
• Loyang is an old ship, but still very good (and wants another coal mod): cruiser hydro with US smoke can be fearsome, her AA is 'good enough', and you have reasonable dakka, plus two torp options (I run the YOLO ones, but you have a very narrow stealth torp window with them).
• Kidd can be a great choice too: more or less a Fletcher at T8, only with a heal. Good (for a DD) AA, with DefAA, but only one torp launcher; the latter means you tend to be at least partly reliant on your team-mates shooting much of what you spot, although your dakka is good enough to make most DDs regret their life choices one-on-one.
• Although putting her on the notorious Satan box short list effectively labels her as a stinker, I like Orkan a lot too (radar coal mod is your friend here) - she's more or less a Lightning that loses her smoke and one torp launcher, but gets a heal in return. Crucially, she also gets radar; I'm still amazed how many players (especially in randoms) still seem to not know about this! If you are comfortable with smoke-less DDs, she's very much worth a look, but avoid like the plague if you aren't!
• Asashio has lots of fans, and last I looked she's my most played ship, but she can be very situational; if the opposing BBs cooperate, she's ferocious, but to do good damage, you do need decent quantities of opponents that you can hit, and are kind enough not to dodge properly. She has class-leading stealth though, and don't discount the guns entirely (plus, she gains from the upcoming rework, as TA apparently doesn't gimp range after the changes).

The crucial thing with a premium DD is to be able to put a good captain in her; the higher points total, the better. If it's one that benefits from a coal mod (or more than one, in a few cases), spend the coal too.

[Maris_Piper]

T7 Scharnhorst BB armour but Heavy Cruiser Guns Played like a tough Heavy Cruiser switching between HE and AP a 20 second reload good range and torps for those tight spots, but keep the Captain Skills Brain Fart in mind re German Secondaries StrasBoug ok but can be seen from space and suffers at T9, as someone said T7 MM is Evil for Cruisers

T8 The Massa no Contest, Cruisers Atago and Prinz  with heals for all the time WeeGee's perfect MM will have you in T9, Tirpitz see Brain Fart mentioned above

[lafeel]

1 hour ago, gopher31 said:

And the T61 is much better than the z-39.

Does not however mean the Z-39 is a bad ship. It is in fact comfortably the second best of the German Premium DD's.

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

Is Duke of York any good, really?

[DFens_666]

1 minute ago, Bindolaf_Werebane said:

Is Duke of York any good, really?

 

No, its crap.

[Ocsimano18]

14 minutes ago, Bindolaf_Werebane said:

Is Duke of York any good, really?

It's not strong but fun. I prefer to play her over Nelson. I mean it's ok to get her for coal.

[USS_Billy_Herrington]

47 minutes ago, Bindolaf_Werebane said:

Is Duke of York any good, really?

It's a worse KGV. I'm not saying that Duke of York is a bad ship but imo KGV is simply the better ship

[tocqueville8]

HOOD

It took me fewer than 30 games in that ship to break my T7 dmg record. Twice. And my xp record overall.

She has decent AA, great gun and ship handling, and a-ma-zing armor (51mm deck, upper belt that can't be overmatched). The speed is great to keep the ship productive: you'll never be too slow to run away from trouble or to exploit an opening.

 

Btw, the Duke of York is far from "crap".

She has the best AA of all four T7 British BBs, she got her heal back, she has improved AP angles and a decent hydro as well. The slower reload compared to the KGV is a minor handicap in exchange for these advantages, imho.

 

Still, the Hood is better imho, and you can get the DoY for coal pretty cheap. I did.

 

As for DDs, Haida, Loyang, Cossack and Kidd are all excellent in Ranked, and the Asashio as well, if you know what you're doing.

[FlyingBender]

Cossack and Haida

[Verblonde]

1 hour ago, Bindolaf_Werebane said:

Is Duke of York any good, really?

View of a DD main: useful to have (premium BBs for Narai are always useful, for a start), but not essential, and there are far better things to spend actual money on at that sort of tier.

[Miscommunication_dept]

2 hours ago, lafeel said:

Does not however mean the Z-39 is a bad ship. It is in fact comfortably the second best of the German Premium DD's.

Against stiff opposition!!!

[umbra_arboris]

godzinę temu, DFens_666 napisał:

No, its crap.

 

One question. I know that KGV has much faster (4,5 sec.) gun reload when DoY has sonar and better AA. But I read that its rudder shift is horrible. Why so huge difference between sister ships? Maybe DoY has at least better sigma (there were so many changes, I don't know) or something (better secondary like Oklahoma has :-) ? Otherwise DoY would be simply a worse version of KGV, strange...