[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,949 battles Report post #1 Posted December 18, 2020 Rework vs. old manual sec skill: 25k vs 39k with GK on a static Des Moines at max range during 2 minutes. Just seen on his stream. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b0tl1k3 Beta Tester 335 posts 13,423 battles Report post #2 Posted December 18, 2020 Gk was just to strong 20 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #3 Posted December 18, 2020 So, the viability of secondaries builds is down? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THIR] Stormhawk_V Players 1,034 posts 4,895 battles Report post #4 Posted December 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: So, the viability of secondaries builds is down? For German ships, yes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #5 Posted December 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: So, the viability of secondaries builds is down? Yep, there is a reason BBs get the sniping buff after all ^^ 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SH33P] tyco Beta Tester 113 posts 7,848 battles Report post #6 Posted December 18, 2020 Well... and the des moines on the other side? 😁 They said the reduction of accuracy is justified by two shooting sides instead of one. We will see. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THIR] Stormhawk_V Players 1,034 posts 4,895 battles Report post #7 Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, tyco said: Well... and the des moines on the other side? 😁 They said the reduction of accuracy is justified by two shooting sides instead of one. We will see. But that's not how you want to play. When all your secondaries are firing you're surrounded and about to get sunk. At least in the overwhelming majority of cases. 12 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #8 Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Stormhawk_V said: When all your secondaries are firing you're surrounded and about to get sunk. But, in a properly manly way - none of this whimpering at the back as you burn to a cinder! It's not quite 'strapped with explosives, and riding a shark into the mouth of an active volcano' manly, but sufficiently close to be acceptable... 3 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badjakker Players 27 posts 8,380 battles Report post #9 Posted December 18, 2020 Please WG! Don't remove all the fun from the game... Keep your hands away from the secondaries. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #10 Posted December 18, 2020 36 minutes ago, Stormhawk_V said: For German ships, yes. But you can still use them for setting fires on other ships. They hit HE ammo afterall. Anyhow, I will never change build of my Kurfurst into anything else than current secondary build. No matter how much they nerf it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #11 Posted December 18, 2020 36 minutes ago, tyco said: Well... and the des moines on the other side? 😁 They said the reduction of accuracy is justified by two shooting sides instead of one. We will see. I guess 2ndaries were not meant to work like a claymore mines, but to offer somewhat accurate fire at not too distant targets. I wonder how many people will sell their German premiums for credits because they now have to deal with both inaccurate main AND auxiliary batteries. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THIR] Stormhawk_V Players 1,034 posts 4,895 battles Report post #12 Posted December 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said: But you can still use them for setting fires on other ships. They hit HE ammo afterall. You can't set fires if you don't hit stuff. I mean yes, you still hit stuff but your accuracy is greatly decreased. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #13 Posted December 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS said: I guess 2ndaries were not meant to work like a claymore mines, but to offer somewhat accurate fire at not too distant targets. I wonder how many people will sell their German premiums for credits because they now have to deal with both inaccurate main AND auxiliary batteries. But WG said that they are looking into making secondary great again, they also buffed main guns so why do you cry you ungrateful peasants? Do you want to go to gulag? 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacFergus Beta Tester 1,067 posts 4,880 battles Report post #14 Posted December 18, 2020 WG wisdom you can now fire from both sides which is great but means your more than likely in a crossfire which is not great so its a nerf. The idiot who thought of this should be hung drawn and quartered , Fun gone camper meta confirmed. 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #15 Posted December 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, MacFergus said: WG wisdom you can now fire from both sides which is great but means your more than likely in a crossfire which is not great so its a nerf. Pretty sure I do not want to get into situations (outside of coop) where there are targets within 2ndary range on both sides. I also fail to understand how WG considers brutally reduced accuracy and extended range to be a "more effective" combination. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THIR] Stormhawk_V Players 1,034 posts 4,895 battles Report post #16 Posted December 18, 2020 Just now, HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS said: I also fail to understand how WG considers brutally reduced accuracy and extended range to be a "more effective", combination. WG also considers having only access to super narrow spreads a nerf to Kitakami. I'm pretty sure they make this nonsense up as they go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious007 Players 157 posts 21,148 battles Report post #17 Posted December 18, 2020 I stopped being interested after I read 'flamu' 😜 3 1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacFergus Beta Tester 1,067 posts 4,880 battles Report post #18 Posted December 18, 2020 To be fair when Flamu did 139k with his secondaries in his Agir to Euro's division of Alaska's it was going to happen great content for him but screwed the rest of us he even admits they will be nerfed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #19 Posted December 18, 2020 Just now, Stormhawk_V said: WG also considers having only access to super narrow spreads a nerf to Kitakami. I'm pretty sure they make this nonsense up as they go. January 2021: All German BB receive Aiming System Mod 1 in slot 3. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #20 Posted December 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, MacFergus said: WG wisdom you can now fire from both sides which is great but means your more than likely in a crossfire which is not great so its a nerf. The idiot who thought of this should be hung drawn and quartered , Fun gone camper meta confirmed. OMG what barbarism is this! We don't hung draw or quarter people here! The proper thing to do is to keelhaul them. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #21 Posted December 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: OMG what barbarism is this! We don't hung draw or quarter people here! The proper thing to do is to keelhaul them. Lingchi? Scaphism? Impalement? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #22 Posted December 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS said: Lingchi? Scaphism? Impalement? IRL: payrise 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #23 Posted December 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, DariusJacek said: IRL: payrise Error 404: Not found. And I have an extensive treasure trove of books on such important matters. 💀🪒 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #24 Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS said: Error 404: Not found. And I have an extensive treasure trove of books on such important matters. 💀🪒 It's only in sekrit WG PRopaganda department. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OST-X] Khaba_Gandalf Players 2,547 posts 25,093 battles Report post #25 Posted December 18, 2020 Vor 31 Minuten, HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS sagte: Lingchi? Scaphism? Impalement? Binge watching of bad German TV series like Schwarzwaldklinik... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites