[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #1 Posted December 16, 2020 Frequent 1 week ranked sprints with good rewards in 3 different leagues, 3 different tiers, changing weekly. People will love this, you're giving us a reason to acquire, keep and play a selection of interesting lower tier ships. Very much looking forward to this, when does this go live? 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PUPSI] Klopirat Freibeuter 15,160 posts Report post #2 Posted December 16, 2020 51 minutes ago, NikolayKuznetsov said: People will love this, sure, that's why the feedback on the article is very negative (as expected)... 53 minutes ago, NikolayKuznetsov said: when does this go live? dates/times are given in the article... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] thiextar Players 3,503 posts 9,933 battles Report post #3 Posted December 16, 2020 The basic idea of the rework is fine, but as always, wargaming found a way to screw it up. about 3x as much grind for way less rewards than the old system... Oh, and to top it off, the most efficient way to get steel is actually to NOT rank up, but to instead stay in bronze league forever. Yes, we now have a ranked system that actively punishes you for ranking up... 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smart_Hound Players 60 posts 13,841 battles Report post #4 Posted December 16, 2020 Good rewards.... I guess it's ironic... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #5 Posted December 16, 2020 2 hours ago, thiextar said: about 3x as much grind for way less rewards than the old system... "WG still gives way 2 much free stuff" - quote by some people not so long ago, well nobody can claim they are not listening to the community now can they... 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-F] OldPappy Players 758 posts 21,952 battles Report post #6 Posted December 16, 2020 2 hours ago, thiextar said: The basic idea of the rework is fine, but as always, wargaming found a way to screw it up. about 3x as much grind for way less rewards than the old system... Oh, and to top it off, the most efficient way to get steel is actually to NOT rank up, but to instead stay in bronze league forever. Yes, we now have a ranked system that actively punishes you for ranking up... I might be thick this early, but how do you profit more from staying in bronze? I was trying to figure it out, but....🤷🏻♂️ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] ThePurpleSmurf Players 2,554 posts Report post #7 Posted December 16, 2020 If you are too lazy to do the math by yourself check out reddit: 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,949 battles Report post #8 Posted December 16, 2020 What I see is a game mode that separates players by skill much more than randoms, and gives you +-1 tier match making. This is what we wanted, right? The rewards are better in bronze and silver leagues. The gold league has nerfed rewards, they will probably adjust that over time. The greatest reward I am looking forward to is playing more quality games, even on the weekends. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #9 Posted December 16, 2020 25 minutes ago, Yedwy said: "WG still gives way 2 much free stuff" - quote by some people not so long ago, well nobody can claim they are not listening to the community now can they... And the game is in the horrible state that it is in because of it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,647 battles Report post #10 Posted December 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Ocsimano18 said: What I see is a game mode that separates players by skill much more than randoms, and gives you +-1 tier match making. This is what we wanted, right? The rewards are better in bronze and silver leagues. The gold league has nerfed rewards, they will probably adjust that over time. The greatest reward I am looking forward to is playing more quality games, even on the weekends. The question is, how many people will bother with Gold and how long will you be waiting in MM queues to play with the same 20 people ... EDIT: the main problem is the lack of unique rewards per League ... you just get more of the same the higher you go .... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SYD] Molly_Delaney Players 1,200 posts 4,600 battles Report post #11 Posted December 16, 2020 I'm looking forward to this, especially once all the good/unicum players have reached silver/gold. Be nice not to worry about running into them in ranked. So my goal would be a highish rank in bronze in the 3rd iteration of the event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GHUND] Jaberwak Players 193 posts 25,357 battles Report post #12 Posted December 16, 2020 1 godzinę temu, OldPappy napisał: I might be thick this early, but how do you profit more from staying in bronze? I was trying to figure it out, but....🤷🏻♂️ You dont get the rewards from lower leagues next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R_N_G] Bindolaf_Werebane Players 1,387 posts 12,045 battles Report post #13 Posted December 16, 2020 I couldn't care less about rewards. If this ranked thing is a kind-of, semi-, sort-of skill based matchmaking, I'm there. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #14 Posted December 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Molly_Delaney said: I'm looking forward to this, especially once all the good/unicum players have reached silver/gold. If they want steel, i think they will stay in Bronze 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SYD] Molly_Delaney Players 1,200 posts 4,600 battles Report post #15 Posted December 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: If they want steel, i think they will stay in Bronze But they wont be able to blame me for 'dragging their WR down'.... (well they will, but they'll be made fun of.....) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PANEU] kfa Beta Tester 1,975 posts 13,875 battles Report post #16 Posted December 16, 2020 3 hours ago, ThePurpleSmurf said: If you are too lazy to do the math by yourself check out reddit: clever people will just camp bronze or silver for the easy steel to save the unholy grind for like... 10% better rewards in gold... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-A] Matty814 Players 144 posts 12,244 battles Report post #17 Posted December 16, 2020 Am I reading it wrong or do you only need to win games rather than grind stars (which can be lost when losing a battle) to obtain the majority of rewards? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SOKRN] BlackFish__ Players 182 posts 15,694 battles Report post #18 Posted December 16, 2020 In general the new format looks way better than the old one spiced with the usual greedy reward policy of Wargaming.We are spoiled aren't we? The good: -separated leagues hopefully less potatoes in gold league -not dropping back to previous league if an unfortunate loss streak occurs (worst nightmare was dropping out from premier league into the cesspool of rank 10-5 bracket) -gradual increase of difficulty in leagues -different leagues with different tiers of ships -option to qualify to the next league or not (having options is always great) The bad: -absolutely abysmal rewards for silver and especially for gold leagues. The prizes are not even in the same universe as the amount of effrort needed to get them. (Bronze is fine as it can be done in one or two days seems easier than the ranked sprints before, that is OK for a bronze league.) - One week is too short for the Gold league. You need to get 19 stars without irrevocable ranks (that is fine) and you need to do that in one week which is irrealistic unless you are a unicum or take a vacation for that one week. Suggestions -reconsider the rewards for silver and especially for gold league -make silver league tier 9 only (NO CVs yay) or tier 9-8 -change the length&amount of sprints per season. Some examples below: Five sprints, 4 sprints one week, last sprint two weeks, season length 6 weeks Five sprints , 3 sprints one week 2 sprints 10 days, season length 6 weeks Four sprints 2 sprints one week 2 sprints 2 weeks, season length 6 weeks Six sprints 2 sprints one week 2 sprints 10 days 2 sprints 2 weeks, season length 9 weeks. I guess you get the idea. -and alt last but not least BAN CVs from ranked! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perekotypole Players 511 posts 8,639 battles Report post #19 Posted December 16, 2020 Vor 4 Stunden, ThePurpleSmurf sagte: If you are too lazy to do the math by yourself check out reddit: 70 ranked games EVERY week, that's 10 RANKED GAMES EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. considering it's permanent format... I play 200 battles in 20 days, that's 2 hours per day. So basically it boils down to match duration and per match rewards, XP and silver. If they are as good as randoms, I just gonna use new mode to grind ships. Many ships suffer a lot from +2 MM, like tier 6-7 cruisers. Other ships are just so lame, they hurt my randoms WR, like Algerie... could consider grinding them in new ranked... But honestly, permanent mode without +2 MM is big plus on itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #20 Posted December 16, 2020 Well it ll be semi-permanent same as its semi-competitive i guess as there will be some breaks between the seasons and for grinding purposes well that depends a lot on which tiers will be chosen at that time as you can only grind what is the current choice in your league and season... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #21 Posted December 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, BlackFish__ said: We are spoiled aren't we? I wouldnt call it like that at all. Imagine if you would work 10h per week and get payed x for that. Your boss asks you, how about working atleast 30h per week and get payed x+10%... i doubt anyone would say yes to that 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #22 Posted December 16, 2020 If the reward system is busted, tweak it so the mode becomes worth, but please keep the basic idea : I want to have a reason to acquire, keep and play ships of every tier. Currently the only real reason is for fun, they're never useful, a useful fleet now is a bunch of premium and permacamo T9/T10s. Also if I play T7 + T9 sprints does this mean I never see a CV again? Somebody pinch me. It's perfect, CV's can fight bots in high tier randoms like they do in T4, they won't mind, probably won't even realize until 2022 or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SOKRN] BlackFish__ Players 182 posts 15,694 battles Report post #23 Posted December 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: I wouldnt call it like that at all. Imagine if you would work 10h per week and get payed x for that. Your boss asks you, how about working atleast 30h per week and get payed x+10%... i doubt anyone would say yes to that In order to undestand the "we are spoiled" sentence you need to go back in time till December of 2016. When EU site announced the Santa Convoys with their abysmal parameters Dasha smilingly asked in the video "You are being spoiled, arent you?" Since then the we are being spoiled is kinda meme in WOWS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #24 Posted December 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, BlackFish__ said: Dasha smilingly asked in the video "You are being spoiled, arent you?" There's a video of Dasha smilingly saying that? I need that video and 30 minutes of privacy. Make it happen 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCUMM] herrjott [SCUMM] Players 943 posts 22,067 battles Report post #25 Posted December 16, 2020 Spreadsheet says "More grind means more time to enjoy the game!" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
