Clan missions in a div for oil.

[NothingButTheRain]

So me and a couple clan members tried to do this mission which is the only one we haven't completed yet.

 

We tried with a division which did allow for extra people to play along, but we did not get the reward.

The mission description leaves it completely ambiguous as to how we can complete this mission

 

 

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Posted November 5

  On 11/5/2020 at 7:48 AM, rimmer_the said:

Are you just throwing out spaghetti code and waiting until players do unpaid testing for you ? What ranks can activate the clan missions ?

Regarding activation of the mission, it depends on the mission itself, as for example win a Naval Battle, there is doesn't matter who from the clan is going to participate.

 

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But we did do the mission in the way it was stated, witha  div consisting of clanmembers. Now we don't know how to complete it. What are the exact prerequisites for to completing this mission? @YabbaCoe
                                                                                      

Thank you.                                                                                                                  

 

 

[Isoruku_Yamamoto]

It would help if you literally quote the requirement.

I think i know which one you mean; then its along these lines (dont have game open)

- Complete any operation (in a division of clan members)*

*Phrasing will be different.

 

Youd need to complete it with only ppl from your clan, not sure if you can fo so with a non full team (most scenarios are doable with 6). 

[YabbaCoe]

Před 13 hodinami NothingButTheRain řekl/a:

So me and a couple clan members tried to do this mission which is the only one we haven't completed yet.

 

We tried with a division which did allow for extra people to play along, but we did not get the reward.

The mission description leaves it completely ambiguous as to how we can complete this mission

 

 

But we did do the mission in the way it was stated, witha  div consisting of clanmembers. Now we don't know how to complete it. What are the exact prerequisites for to completing this mission? @YabbaCoe
                                                                                      

Thank you.                                                                                                                  

 

 

Which mission exactly you have in mind? Can you please quote it here?

[Yamashiro42]

Same situation here, @YabbaCoe, my ticket ID 127278051 is unresolved for more than a month. And it got closed without any solution.

I expected the support to either tell me exactly what we had done wrong, or to fix the situation.

[Yamashiro42]

13 hours ago, NothingButTheRain said:

The mission description leaves it completely ambiguous as to how we can complete this mission

The problem is that the description is not ambiguos but when you try to complete it exactly how it is worded it does not check as completed.

[Yamashiro42]

24 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

Which mission exactly you have in mind? Can you please quote it here?

See the attachment.

[ForlornSailor]

5 minutes ago, Yamashiro42 said:

The problem is that the description is not ambiguos but when you try to complete it exactly how it is worded it does not check as completed. 

 

Did you try with a division, that only consists of members of your clan? I know for a fact, that it doesnt work, when there is someone from another clan. I also dont know if it works at all and/or if thats how its suppose to work.

[Yamashiro42]

Just now, ForlornSailor said:

Did you try with a division, that only consists of members of your clan? I know for a fact, that it doesnt work, when there is someone from another clan. I also dont know if it works at all and/or if thats how its suppose to work.

All three members of our division were from our clan. There were anothe four other random people without any division, but according to the description of the mission that should have no effect on the completition .

[Yamashiro42]

Actualy in the support's response they said that in this case, they needed to wait until the issue would be completely fixed and that they were working to rectify this problem as fast as they could. But it was a month ago.
 

[ForlornSailor]

Just now, Yamashiro42 said:

All three members of our division were from our clan. There were anothe four other random people without any division, but according to the description of the mission that should have no effect on the completition .

 

Yup, indeed, but I suspect, the requirement is just badly worded. But yea, I cant confirm either, since I havent tried with a division of my clan members only. (and thats the word, thats missing). If I find some time and the right guys, we might give it a go in Narai just to check on that.

[T0byJug]

8 minutes ago, Yamashiro42 said:

All three members of our division were from our clan. There were anothe four other random people without any division, but according to the description of the mission that should have no effect on the completition .

Ok that may be your problem.. I think you need to fill the HOLE operation with Clan members.. We have not done it in a long time(as in the SCRUBS) but you at least USED to be able for operations have a division of your hole team 

 

So try this Go to ops and fill the division 7 or 8 with clan members.. I cant check right know as my home office is having electrics worked on

 

I think when you select an operation you will see you can invite more than 3 friends to a division 

[Yamashiro42]

1 minute ago, T0byJug said:

Ok that may be your problem.. I think you need to fill the HOLE operation with Clan members.. We have not done it ina long time but you at least USED to be able for operations have a division of your hole team  

 

So try this Go to ops and fill the division 7 or 8 with clan members.. I cant check right know as my home office is having electrics worked on

OK, so possibly fooked-up mission description is MY problem, thanks mate, will work on that and look for someone who can hack into WG servers to fix that

Sarcasm off, yeah, some people already said on discord they had been able to complete it without any non-clan members in the team, but I kinda expected the WG to tell me this, and not that they are having to fix the issue…

[Isoruku_Yamamoto]

Well it kinda makes sense.... Operation divisions are 7 ppl, so a division from clan members would be 7 clan members. 

15 minutes ago, Yamashiro42 said:

OK, so possibly fooked-up mission description is MY problem, thanks mate, will work on that and look for someone who can hack into WG servers to fix that

Sarcasm off, yeah, some people already said on discord they had been able to complete it without any non-clan members in the team, but I kinda expected the WG to tell me this, and not that they are having to fix the issue…

 

[ForlornSailor]

33 minutes ago, Isoruku_Yamamoto said:

Well it kinda makes sense.... Operation divisions are 7 ppl, so a division from clan members would be 7 clan members. 

In my mind, 4 (without picking up random players) should be enough. Requires some testing tho. Also keep in mind, that the oil missions only update over night, so it will not show up right away, if you have achieved the mission (afaik).

[T0byJug]

36 minutes ago, Isoruku_Yamamoto said:

Well it kinda makes sense.... Operation divisions are 7 ppl, so a division from clan members would be 7 clan members. 

 

@Yamashiro42  This... but indead they could have made it a bit clearer  like Where the operation only has you clan i mates in it.

[Johnny_Moneto]

Vor 1 Stunde, Yamashiro42 sagte:

Sarcasm off, yeah, some people already said on discord they had been able to complete it without any non-clan members in the team, but I kinda expected the WG to tell me this, and not that they are having to fix the issue…

The bot of Customer Support was not yet programmed for that issue and therefore spit out a generic answer.

[NothingButTheRain]

On 12/16/2020 at 10:16 AM, YabbaCoe said:

Which mission exactly you have in mind? Can you please quote it here?

I cannot quote you because the thread I referenced to, is locked.

It's this one here 

 

and it's the mission where you have to makea  div with clanmates and get 5 stars. We made a div with clanmates, got 5 stars, mission still not completed.

So me and another deputy commander of our clan talked about what the issue might have been and we decided that I would just come ask here instead of us having to think up all kinds of different interpretations of a mission which shouldn't have a vague mission description in the first place, effectively wasting our time (even though doing the mission itself was not that unpleasant to me, but we need to get enough people together which is harder since in my clan there is very little enthousiasm for operations anyway.

 

My game is updating so I can't enter the client right now. There is just 1 clan mission about operations, so it should be relatively easy to find 

[NothingButTheRain]

On 12/16/2020 at 11:13 AM, Isoruku_Yamamoto said:

Well it kinda makes sense.... Operation divisions are 7 ppl, so a division from clan members would be 7 clan members. 

 

But this is not the case. A division with 2 clanmembers is also a division. A division with 4 clanmembers (which is perfectly eligable for starting (and sometimes succesfully completing) a scenario battle) is also a division. But you may be right about this being the actual issue. Gonna be tough getting 7 people together when 4 or 5 would suffice since our clan has mostly above average players anyway (and me guiding the whole process).

[NothingButTheRain]

On 12/16/2020 at 11:52 AM, T0byJug said:

@Yamashiro42  This... but indead they could have made it a bit clearer  like Where the operation only has you clan i mates in it.

We did get this part, but we did succeed finishing an operation with 5 stars with a division of just clan members. But the division was just 4 people with the remaining 3 people being filled up with plebs. But we did it exactly as the mission description told us to, to get 5 stars with a division of only clanmembers. Or so we thought as mission is still incompleted.

[NothingButTheRain]

On 12/16/2020 at 10:38 AM, Yamashiro42 said:

The problem is that the description is not ambiguos but when you try to complete it exactly how it is worded it does not check as completed.

Are you saying that I was wrong with describing the issue because the real issue is that this mission is bugged in such a way that it is literally incompletable?

[ForlornSailor]

36 minutes ago, NothingButTheRain said:

But the division was just 4 people with the remaining 3 people being filled up with plebs.

Thats the problem. No other people in the same game allowed. Just make a division, remove the check from allowing random people and complete it with 4 or 5 guys. You should be able to do it in Narai, you dont need 7 guys there.

[T0byJug]

38 minutes ago, NothingButTheRain said:

We did get this part, but we did succeed finishing an operation with 5 stars with a division of just clan members. But the division was just 4 people with the remaining 3 people being filled up with plebs. But we did it exactly as the mission description told us to, to get 5 stars with a division of only clanmembers. Or so we thought as mission is still incompleted.

 

 

1 minute ago, ForlornSailor said:

Thats the problem. No other people in the same game allowed. Just make a division, remove the check from allowing random people and complete it with 4 or 5 guys. You should be able to do it in Narai, you dont need 7 guys there.

This... the hole match must only have your clan mates in it.. try with a div of 7 clan mates

[Isoruku_Yamamoto]

44 minutes ago, NothingButTheRain said:

We did get this part, but we did succeed finishing an operation with 5 stars with a division of just clan members. But the division was just 4 people with the remaining 3 people being filled up with plebs. But we did it exactly as the mission description told us to, to get 5 stars with a division of only clanmembers. Or so we thought as mission is still incompleted.

it is though, the division size is 7 in this case. If you have 2 ppl of your clan in there, surely you have clan mates in the division, but you do not have a division of clan mates. 
If you have a bag with 10 apples its a bag of apples, do you still call it a bag of apples when theres 2 apples, 3 pears, a grape and 5 bananas in there?

[Yamashiro42]

45 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said:

Thats the problem. No other people in the same game allowed. Just make a division, remove the check from allowing random people and complete it with 4 or 5 guys. You should be able to do it in Narai, you dont need 7 guys there.

OK, so now it is clear that the problem is the mission description which does not mention any requrement of playing the operation with the team only composed of the clan division.

[NewHorizons_1]

FWIW: we've tried to complete this one. Was in a div of 3 clan members and no-one else in that division.

The rest of the team were just random players, no other divisions. We didn't complete the clan mission, despite completing the operation with 5 stars.

So this mission clearly needs a less ambiguous description, eg specify the minimum number of division members or specify that the division has to be completely filled with N clan members or specify that no non-clan members can be on the team.

Depending on of course, what the actual condition actually is.