EmilyKing Players 279 posts 6,224 battles Report post #1 Posted December 14, 2020 Lol I never thought the day would come when I have a team so bad that I see a 0 star narai. Things got off to a bad start, Zara dced or crashed and never came back the whole match. That's fine, not their fault. Then Helena went south for TP. I'm the sort of person who isn't greedy for kills or dmg so when someone else goes TP i let them have it, because they can get achiev. Helena dies. to the DD. BY GUNS. I was with the convoy because someone was going CV already. When Helena died I tried to go south to salvage the TP kills, no luck, can't even see St Clair b4 it leaves. So the whole game the King George V mostly went north, around A or B line. Typical braindead player who dont know what they should be doing in a BB in ops. But fine I let him go CV. Lol except he goes for CV, then when he gets close he turns and goes south away from CV and doesn't kill CV. He also left our immediate north flank of the convoy open. Belfast who was still with the convoy doesnt know how to read the minimap and react to that. I'm south trying to salvage transports so I can't. So DD and phoenix with the CV comes from the north and kills 2 transports because there is literally NOBODY there to stop them(when Belfast should have been). We finally get in, I had to get there very late cuz I went far south to try to save the situation with the TP, came back, Gnei at least pushed in to tank so he helped a bit. But Gnei being a Gnei wants to play like a big DD so closes to torpedo range. And dies. So without anyone tanking, repair ship dies. But at least he did take some ships with him, so only player who at least knew what BB should do kinda. By the time I get there we're basically down to zero stars. Sinop pushed in from south I think, but he didn't do much more than the KGV who spent the whole game north doing NOTHING, apart from occasionally getting kills on ships already on very low hp. At least Belfast helped some to salvage the op from being a complete fail, just wish he knew how to read and react to the minimap. But the KGV and Helena were seriously clueless. Hell the KGV might be even WORSE than the Helena given how much longer he survived and barely got any more xp than the Helena. Honestly some days you just meet people you simply can't carry. I need a good stiff drink after that. Maybe next time I will just not be nice and go for transports or CV despite seeing someone else already doing it. Seems the price you pay for not going to steal people's achievs is this sort of game... 3 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_FDOLXpxOfXXq Players 801 posts Report post #2 Posted December 14, 2020 Nothing surprising for an evening, it's the same on weekends. Maybe 1 in 5 times you get a team so special that it's a defeat. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,656 battles Report post #3 Posted December 14, 2020 38 minutes ago, EmilyKing said: I never thought the day would come when I have a team so bad that I see a 0 star narai. 1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,223 battles Report post #4 Posted December 14, 2020 Thankfully Narai is one of the operations that usually most teams can cope with, but never underestimate just how badly a random team can mess it up. After all remember nothing is ever fool proof, as they Keep coming up with better Fools. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] NobleRipper Players 1,211 posts Report post #5 Posted December 14, 2020 46 minutes ago, EmilyKing said: Honestly some days you just meet people you simply can't carry. I need a good stiff drink after that. Maybe next time I will just not be nice and go for transports or CV despite seeing someone else already doing it. Seems the price you pay for not going to steal people's achievs is this sort of game... Have you considered uploading/sending someone the replay? I know Jingles does fail videos quite a bit... ;) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,656 battles Report post #6 Posted December 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, NobleSauvage said: Have you considered uploading/sending someone the replay? I know Jingles does fail videos quite a bit... ;) <breathes huge sigh of relief that it can't be my fault, as I haven't logged on yet today...> 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FBC] Logan_MountStuart Players 416 posts 10,715 battles Report post #7 Posted December 14, 2020 I played Narai on Saturday for the first time in months as I'm grinding Nagato. Bizarrely, and I apologise for this, the team that turned up was probably the best I've ever seen in that operation. We absolutely wiped the floor with the AI and landed every single troop ship and troops. One guy went south and ended with 12 kills, 2 guys went north and we dispatched the CV before he even got around the top island, it was unbelievably good play. I may never go back though as I suspect only disappointment now awaits!!! 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #8 Posted December 15, 2020 Always ask at the start of game if someone don't know the map/OP. I do it all the time. It is demeaning yes, but people do reply sometimes and you can give simple instructions. Those that don't know but are ashamed to speak up, listen in and follow (badly) the plan. Always leave a star and one flank if the team is bad to salvage the rest of the mission. Still you could draw a bucket of rocks for teamates, so all that considering well done @EmilyKing :) 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CDD] Dutchy_2019 Players 1,927 posts 13,486 battles Report post #9 Posted December 15, 2020 Yeah, I have come across some truly speshul team mates. On occasion it was really frustrating, but there were also some really good games with good teams. Admittedly I messed up twice myself when trying to get the CV. Things I noticed: - Record for SPESHUL player of the month goes to a Lyon, who pretty much singlehandedly managed to waste a 345k Scharnhorst game of mine. BTW, at the point I died in port (also having tanked for almost 1.8 million), the Bretagne (10%), Colorado, Queen Elizabeth (50% health), Schchors AND Atlanta were still alive (so yeah, the rest of the team sucked, but if that Lyon had only had three functioning brain cells that still would have been a (low star) win. Other things - The amount of BB players who manage to put themselves in a position to NOT shoot the Missouri is astounding. - Seeing one cruiser player move off to kill the transports seems to lead to ALL cruisers moving in that direction. - On occasion players do NOT pay attention to what is going on at all. Yes, I have had to go transport hunting in Scharnhorst on a few occasions (only when we were with 3 BB's) because NOBODY moved out. Despite pointing out the issue at the very start of the match. - Sailing your Scharnhorst in a straight line at the start leads to many cruiser and DD players running into you. - A shitload of players truly playing their own game, not communicating or even reading chat (or simply not caring), only to hunt their own glory (get CV or transports) and more often than not messing up big time. - Players from the start hiding 'so they can hunt the CV' usually end up being completely useless and NOT killing the CV. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FNF-L] Latouche_Treville Players 1,395 posts 12,229 battles Report post #10 Posted December 15, 2020 2 hours ago, lossi_2018 said: Always ask at the start of game if someone don't know the map/OP. I do it all the time. It is demeaning yes, but people do reply sometimes and you can give simple instructions. Those that don't know but are ashamed to speak up, listen in and follow (badly) the plan. Always leave a star and one flank if the team is bad to salvage the rest of the mission. Still you could draw a bucket of rocks for teamates, so all that considering well done @EmilyKing :) For each scenario I have a .TXT file with instructions that i copy/paste in the chat as and when needed. Sometimes it works fine. I'm going to add one about asking if there are newcomers. Now i no longer bother to go after the CV, or the transports, staying with the convoy gives better chances to avoid a disaster. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #11 Posted December 15, 2020 I had one bb going for transpots that stayed in the corner afk the whole game. The other two went for the CV where both died (one by Nicolas, the other by Phoenix). Rest of cruisers died even before Missouri was killed. I was alone in the game before allied transports even entered the harbour. So much for wows playerbase. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[B-N-Z] bratisla_boy Players 449 posts 6,567 battles Report post #12 Posted December 15, 2020 Il y a 3 heures, Latouche_Treville a dit : For each scenario I have a .TXT file with instructions that i copy/paste in the chat as and when needed. Sometimes it works fine. I'm going to add one about asking if there are newcomers. Now i no longer bother to go after the CV, or the transports, staying with the convoy gives better chances to avoid a disaster. This. When I play BB I stick in front of the convoy like a CGT union leader sticks in front of the protest. And I take out Nelson just to reprint the ship and sponge more damage while being focused, to be extra sure. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #13 Posted December 15, 2020 3 hours ago, nambr9 said: The other two went for the CV where both died (one by Nicolas, the other by Phoenix). I would love to see the armour scheme of that Phoenix. There's definitely something dodgy going on with it. 4 hours ago, Dutchy_2019 said: - Record for SPESHUL player of the month goes to a Lyon, who pretty much singlehandedly managed to waste a 345k Scharnhorst game of mine. BTW, at the point I died in port (also having tanked for almost 1.8 million), the Bretagne (10%), Colorado, Queen Elizabeth (50% health), Schchors AND Atlanta were still alive (so yeah, the rest of the team sucked, but if that Lyon had only had three functioning brain cells that still would have been a (low star) win. Don't be too good. There have been Narai games where I've wanted to go off and have a cup of tea because an Atlanta or a Scharnhorst is doing everything and no-one gets a look in. I know it's a resource farm but it still needs a team of four - don't bore your team mates into giving up and a late failure.. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_ziPQbxoJkOE7 Players 293 posts Report post #14 Posted December 15, 2020 My favorite was a Ranger during Raptor who never moved from spawn. Then later on an Aoba and another cruiser (Myoko?) spawned like 8km from him on the border. Nevertheless he forgot to lube up. Or didn't have the time to do so. Classic KEKW 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-IAN-] IanH755 Players 2,100 posts 7,141 battles Report post #15 Posted December 15, 2020 I had a fairly good streak of about 10 Narai's all being 5 Star even when I played very badly in 2 of them so couldn't carry as usual (I'm usually top 2 in Ops/Co-Op) but it shows just how poor some individual players can be that even killing Bots, following simple instructions from the game or even just understanding what a minimap is/does appears to be a struggle for so many. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NLD] Zigiran Players 408 posts 13,393 battles Report post #16 Posted December 15, 2020 3 hours ago, invicta2012 said: I would love to see the armour scheme of that Phoenix. There's definitely something dodgy going on with it. I would like to see the fire chance of that Phoenix. Pretty sure it is over 100%. But the 2 Nicolas's (cv one + transport one) both get a surprising amount of kills (yes, it is a T5 DD, but it has enough torps to dev struck a T7 BB). My worst run yesterday was a cruiser claiming to go south for the transports, but he got blapped by the Iron Duke. Nobody else was willing to go down for the transports, so I went in my Sinop. I got reported for doing that 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MACLD] Onsterfelijke Players 993 posts 18,864 battles Report post #17 Posted December 15, 2020 13 hours ago, Logan_MountStuart said: I played Narai on Saturday for the first time in months as I'm grinding Nagato. Bizarrely, and I apologise for this, the team that turned up was probably the best I've ever seen in that operation. We absolutely wiped the floor with the AI and landed every single troop ship and troops. One guy went south and ended with 12 kills, 2 guys went north and we dispatched the CV before he even got around the top island, it was unbelievably good play. I may never go back though as I suspect only disappointment now awaits!!! If that was a very fast operion with no deads on the home team i think i was also in that game. I did the transports but got helped and could enter the harbour very early sinking the Baltimore and the campeltown. I have to check the replay for to know for sure. Then moving to the island so i could ambush the middle line easy. a easy and fast 5 stars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] NobleRipper Players 1,211 posts Report post #18 Posted December 15, 2020 My favourite Narai balls-up was seeing (I think it was) a KGV going after the transports, well after the team had already lost the star for letting them escape, because there was a last reported position for one of them showing at the exit point. That took them out of the match long enough for our transports to get overwhelmed and sunk inside the harbour, because only one of the three or four remaining ships was in there when the enemy showed. I'm hoping assuming the KGV was a first-timer... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] DeviousDave02 [TACHA] Players 679 posts 3,786 battles Report post #19 Posted December 15, 2020 Do you remember when Narai allowed player controlled CV's and you could carry the incompetent? I miss Ranger being tier VII 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CDD] Dutchy_2019 Players 1,927 posts 13,486 battles Report post #20 Posted December 15, 2020 8 hours ago, bratisla_boy said: This. When I play BB I stick in front of the convoy like a CGT union leader sticks in front of the protest. And I take out Nelson just to reprint the ship and sponge more damage while being focused, to be extra sure. I have not tried Nelson yet. I am improving my Danae / Emile Bertin / Missouri hunting skills in Scharnhorst though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[L4GG] Butterdoll Players 3,470 posts 11,414 battles Report post #21 Posted December 15, 2020 sorry if i'm gonna deviate a bit from the topic but... Can someone share with me one of your Flint/Atlanta replays with me? Not only i'm very new to Flint but i'm very new to this smoke cruisers thing, and i would appreciate some help to not being bad in my first battle in Narai. Thank you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyllon Players 2,588 posts Report post #22 Posted December 15, 2020 On 12/14/2020 at 8:39 PM, lovelacebeer said: Thankfully Narai is one of the operations that usually most teams can cope with, but never underestimate just how badly a random team can mess it up. How about Atlanta and DD getting blown out of water by Fort and Nicolas? It was fun game. I think falls into "WG Uniq ExperienseTM"category... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LOTS_] vaaltra Players 25 posts 10,623 battles Report post #23 Posted December 16, 2020 16 hours ago, Butterdoll said: sorry if i'm gonna deviate a bit from the topic but... Can someone share with me one of your Flint/Atlanta replays with me? Not only i'm very new to Flint but i'm very new to this smoke cruisers thing, and i would appreciate some help to not being bad in my first battle in Narai. Thank you. Don't have any replays but i ussually stay with the pack , focus the dds until iron duke is dead, then go for transports. Flint has the DPM to kill them fast, then enter the bay from the south and smoke in the middle where the repair ship will land. That's the spot from where you can make most use of the DPM (focus the dds first of course), reverse for island cover when the smoke is gone, then repeat. Going for the CV is not using it to the max , the Missouri always focuses you and might get a devastating salvo, and entering the bay from the north takes longer and because of the limited range you can't use the dakka to the max. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #24 Posted December 16, 2020 On 12/15/2020 at 4:11 PM, NobleSauvage said: My favourite Narai balls-up was seeing (I think it was) a KGV going after the transports, well after the team had already lost the star for letting them escape, because there was a last reported position for one of them showing at the exit point. That took them out of the match long enough for our transports to get overwhelmed and sunk inside the harbour, because only one of the three or four remaining ships was in there when the enemy showed. I'm hoping assuming the KGV was a first-timer... I have attempted it with KGV due to many tanking cruisers (sic) but you need to move fast and block the transports from escaping. Extreme Skill required and must be frowned upon as KGV slow stroll prevents ye from saving the fast dying and screaming obscenities same 'tanking' cruisers. Mucho downvotes earned despite winning a solo win killing everything in port. Only a couple of stars too, which also sucks. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] NobleRipper Players 1,211 posts Report post #25 Posted December 16, 2020 2 hours ago, lossi_2018 said: I have attempted it with KGV due to many tanking cruisers (sic) but you need to move fast and block the transports from escaping. Extreme Skill required and must be frowned upon as KGV slow stroll prevents ye from saving the fast dying and screaming obscenities same 'tanking' cruisers. Mucho downvotes earned despite winning a solo win killing everything in port. Only a couple of stars too, which also sucks. The one in my game tried it quite a few minutes in, having been seemingly asleep beforehand while the rest of us were getting on with business. The transports were already long gone ;) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites