[-MNG-] M0bius_One Players 214 posts 4,292 battles Report post #1 Posted December 10, 2020 Why is this still not an option for the Kaiserliche Marine ships such as Konig, Bayern, etc? If I'm correct, the particular flag isn't even banned in Germany, which begs the question why it can't be included. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #2 Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Flugel_Der_Freiheit said: If I'm correct, the particular flag isn't even banned in Germany, which begs the question why it can't be included. This might change soon. "In the federal state of Bremen, since September 21, 2020, the display of the war flags of the North German Confederation and the German Reich, as well as the black-white-red flag of the German Reich, in public is forbidden. In the Free State of Bavaria, the showing of the Reich war flag is to be banned in the near future. Other federal states are now also advocating a ban on showing it in public space. " https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichskriegsflagge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #3 Posted December 10, 2020 2 hours ago, HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS said: This might change soon. "In the federal state of Bremen, since September 21, 2020, the display of the war flags of the North German Confederation and the German Reich, as well as the black-white-red flag of the German Reich, in public is forbidden. In the Free State of Bavaria, the showing of the Reich war flag is to be banned in the near future. Other federal states are now also advocating a ban on showing it in public space. " https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichskriegsflagge Sure it's 2020 and not 1984? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-MNG-] M0bius_One Players 214 posts 4,292 battles Report post #4 Posted December 10, 2020 2 hours ago, HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS said: This might change soon. "In the federal state of Bremen, since September 21, 2020, the display of the war flags of the North German Confederation and the German Reich, as well as the black-white-red flag of the German Reich, in public is forbidden. In the Free State of Bavaria, the showing of the Reich war flag is to be banned in the near future. Other federal states are now also advocating a ban on showing it in public space. " https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichskriegsflagge In public. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #5 Posted December 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Flugel_Der_Freiheit said: In public. The internet is very public, fyi... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #6 Posted December 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS said: The internet is very public, fyi... So... would Wikipedia censor it from its German langue version... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HassenderZerhacker Players 1,307 posts 3,884 battles Report post #7 Posted December 10, 2020 2 hours ago, HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS said: This might change soon. "In the federal state of Bremen, since September 21, 2020, the display of the war flags of the North German Confederation and the German Reich, as well as the black-white-red flag of the German Reich, in public is forbidden. In the Free State of Bavaria, the showing of the Reich war flag is to be banned in the near future. Other federal states are now also advocating a ban on showing it in public space. " https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichskriegsflagge I don't think a ban is constitutional. It clearly infringes on the right to free speech as well as on political rights. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #8 Posted December 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: So... would Wikipedia censor it from its German langue version... Depends on if it is used in art or for education, afaik. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #9 Posted December 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, HassenderZerhacker said: I don't think a ban is constitutional. It clearly infringes on the right to free speech as well as on political rights. Fortunately, what people consider to be there right of free speech or political rights are not necessarily a legal reality. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashardalon_Dragnipur Players 493 posts 5,497 battles Report post #10 Posted December 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, HassenderZerhacker said: I don't think a ban is constitutional. It clearly infringes on the right to free speech as well as on political rights. those arnt rights in germany its just a different side of the same mentality and a different people targeted there isnt even free press in germany, the country is a pretty big joke 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #11 Posted December 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS said: Fortunately, what people consider to be there right of free speech or political rights are not necessarily a legal reality. FTFY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HassenderZerhacker Players 1,307 posts 3,884 battles Report post #12 Posted December 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS said: Fortunately, what people consider to be there right of free speech or political rights are not necessarily a legal reality. Most German people didn't deserve the events set in motion by the crippled emperor with his inferiority complex, the unfair treatment at Versailles and the subsequent vindictive behavior of German people previously thrown into poverty and humiliation. I think people have the right to express their longing for a time before things turned into a tragedy not only for the country that was among the three or four top most advanced world powers at the time (around 1900), but also for many other innocents. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #13 Posted December 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Flugel_Der_Freiheit said: why it can't be included. Is it one of the flags that's been co-opted by right-wing nutjobs? If so, that would explain it... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #14 Posted December 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Verblonde said: Is it one of the flags that's been co-opted by right-wing nutjobs? If so, that would explain it... ... rather poorly, though. At least as far as I'm concerned because IMO everything needs to be judged on its own merits (or lack thereof). Here's a suggestion, why won't they pick up the current Bundesflag and start waving it around like maniacs. Any right-wing nutjobs are free to make use of my idea, thank me later. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Bellegar Beta Tester 1,866 posts Report post #15 Posted December 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Flugel_Der_Freiheit said: Why is this still not an option for the Kaiserliche Marine ships such as Konig, Bayern, etc? Because showing banned flags and symbols of war in this game is a privilege reserved solely for Glorious Soviet Union. And yes, I know the Imperial German flags aren't actually banned by law in real life. WG just doesn't care. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] NobleRipper Players 1,211 posts Report post #16 Posted December 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bellegar said: And yes, I know the Imperial German flags aren't actually banned by law in real life. WG just doesn't care. I'd guess this is probably closest to the real answer, it would be extra effort for them to put in an alternate flag for a faction even when they've done just that for others such as the Pan-Europeans. That or maybe they think that design with the black eagle in the middle is too fiddly... 1 hour ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Any right-wing nutjobs are free to make use of my idea, thank me later. What about the left-wing nutjobs? ;) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #17 Posted December 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Verblonde said: Is it one of the flags that's been co-opted by right-wing nutjobs? If so, that would explain it... It is. The entire lot of our current enemies of democracy are using it. The nazi party AFD, the Reichsbürgers, Covid deniers, conspiracy theorists and whatever nutjobs you can imagine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_WHY4JO92xZKJ Players 468 posts Report post #18 Posted December 10, 2020 So, we can't see some german flags in the game, cause in Germany showing them is forbidden by law. But that's strange, so strange... Cause in some eastern countries, is forbidden to show communists symbols like the hammer and the sickle, but i still see a LOT of them in the game... I wonder why :D 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #19 Posted December 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, dunbine said: So, we can't see some german flags in the game, cause in Germany showing them is forbidden by law. But that's strange, so strange... Cause in some eastern countries, is forbidden to show communists symbols like the hammer and the sickle, but i still see a LOT of them in the game... I wonder why :D A mystery, in deed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashardalon_Dragnipur Players 493 posts 5,497 battles Report post #20 Posted December 10, 2020 45 minutes ago, HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS said: It is. The entire lot of our current enemies of democracy are using it. The nazi party AFD, the Reichsbürgers, Covid deniers, conspiracy theorists and whatever nutjobs you can imagine. cant really have a party be the enemy of democracy as long as no cheating is happening its just a choice, not having a choice would mean its not democracy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #21 Posted December 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Ashardalon_Dragnipur said: cant really have a party be the enemy of democracy as long as no cheating is happening its just a choice, not having a choice would mean its not democracy It's more like.. having a single choice vs plurality... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #22 Posted December 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Ashardalon_Dragnipur said: those arnt rights in germany its just a different side of the same mentality and a different people targeted there isnt even free press in germany, the country is a pretty big joke Ok, Donald. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #23 Posted December 10, 2020 10 hours ago, Ashardalon_Dragnipur said: cant really have a party be the enemy of democracy You are living on the dark side of the moon. Edit: https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/afd-beobachtung-der-gesamten-partei-durch-verfassungsschutz-rueckt-naeher-a-363352c4-f908-47d7-90db-e50e406f1da9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashardalon_Dragnipur Players 493 posts 5,497 battles Report post #24 Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS said: You are living on the dark side of the moon. and you are on the side that thinks explosives is a valid method of protest if there was a good choice a lot less people would vote for the "bad choice" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-MNG-] M0bius_One Players 214 posts 4,292 battles Report post #25 Posted December 11, 2020 12 hours ago, Verblonde said: Is it one of the flags that's been co-opted by right-wing nutjobs? If so, that would explain it... A lot of things have been co-opted. If you ban that flag, they'll just use something else. These ships appeared historically flying that flag. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites