[-STD-] NorShii Players 102 posts 1,516 battles Report post #1 Posted December 9, 2020 Chances are you've never heard of me or seen me, and I can understand that considering how few battles and forum posts I have. I've been trying to be more active on the forum and I can't seem to find any fun in this game anymore. I'm generally just your average casual player in WoWs, and as such, I like to play Co-op alot (I've made a post about this before). Something you should note before trying to crap talk me or my stats, I'd like to confess that I play alot of German BBs, and I've been trying to get into Randoms lately because of the horrendously terrible rewards you get from Co-op. I started playing around the summer of 2019, and I've sinked a bit of money into this game, mainly for converting XP and buying some premium German ships. I did this because I am a really big fan of history, but that's beside the point. Going into Randoms was probably one of the worst mistakes I've done in my life. Alot of my tech tree ships and at tier 7 and 8, for good reason too. Being the fresh fry that I am, I feel like this game isn't really fun at all in Randoms, and because of Co-op's terrible rewards and the Operations generally just being a cesspit with practically only Tier 6 scenarios in circulation, I feel like I've hit a dead end with this game. I might stick around on the forum, and perhaps even keep playing on the Test Server when that opens up, but I am not going back to playing on the live server. It's simply not fun at all for me anymore. I'd like to thank WeeGee for emptying my wallet and for you guys here on the forum for filling some of my heart with joy for the past year that I've spent on this game. One day, maybe I'll return, maybe I won't. Who knows at this point? Anyway, vent over. 25 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Nov_A Beta Tester 1,292 posts 13,123 battles Report post #2 Posted December 9, 2020 Okay. Byeeeee! 1 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #3 Posted December 9, 2020 Well, Id say this gives a good insight on how new players and players, who´d like to play the game outside of sh!tty randoms feel like. Not that WG will care. 28 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #4 Posted December 9, 2020 Hmm why Randoms a mistake? Coop is certainly different but some practice would probably suffice. Just don’t start randoms with T8 - if you play casually at T5,6,7 you will probably get the hang easily and won’t be frustrated. As a relatively new player in a T8 vs T10s is not a good/fun idea and will just create frustration. There are fantastic ships on lower tiers and the gameplay is more dynamic and mostly pretty fun. Just saying - although a break can be the right thing from time to time See you around 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,474 battles Report post #5 Posted December 9, 2020 6 minuti fa, Nov_A ha scritto: Okay. Byeeeee! at least say goodbye with some heart, for example: Gooooodbye! i hope you will ever come backkk!!!! not this way: okay, bye, and deal with it 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #6 Posted December 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said: Hmm why Randoms a mistake? Prolly because some people just dont like PvP? Which is absolutly valid in my book. But this game forces you to play Randoms (or throw constantly money at WG), which is a bad thing - for everyone involved. Those players dont like to be there but they "have to" and more serious players complain about those PvE-focused players, since they often/sometimes dont have what it takes to be useful in randoms. Im trying to word it carefully to not hurt anyones feelings but thats it in a nutshell. If WG just kept the Operations around and extended then, but nooo, cant have that, you could grind a shipline all the way in Operations, even push the research bureau through that. 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-YR-] Alfa_Tau Players 887 posts Report post #7 Posted December 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, SDRS_Meister said: I started playing around the summer of 2019, So yesterday,,, you have a lot to learn and the first thing is to be patient. second watch some video on youtube on HOW TO DO... this games might seem easy but is not. If you want to improve play at tier IV not VII . Tier IV gives u a protected MM. Start from there and when you have the feeling that the time is ready move up. COOP ar really boring and do not pay off. And you learn ZERO. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #8 Posted December 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said: Prolly because some people just dont like PvP? Which is absolutly valid in my book. But this game forces you to play Randoms (or throw constantly money at WG), which is a bad thing - for everyone involved. Those players dont like to be there but they "have to" and more serious players complain about those PvE-focused players, since they often/sometimes dont have what it takes to be useful in randoms. Im trying to word it carefully to not hurt anyones feelings but thats it in a nutshell. Well I am aware WOWS is not a PvE game. What I’m saying is: why not giving it a try that has a chance to succeed? Why not spend some time in lower tiers to try out different things? Coop clearly teaches you nothing you need to play the game in randoms. Also: he is obviously looking for help - otherwise he would have simply switched off his computer. @SDRS_Meister - here are some somewhat nice dudes around who would probably be fine to take you out for a few spins to practice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] The_Chiv Players 1,592 posts 18,060 battles Report post #9 Posted December 9, 2020 I'm not gonna lie we have all had to take breaks or been down rough patches, the thing is if you meet resistance and just give up then perhaps you should leave. WOWS is a game of hard fought lessons that come from endless mistakes and observations. Hell Im at like what 14k games and I am still learning things. I wont fault you wanting to leave in all honesty it is probably best. I will however comment on the fact that while you think you gave effort most of us would say you didn't even begin to crawl. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,949 battles Report post #10 Posted December 9, 2020 Co-op is a kind of easy mode compared to randoms. Only a small part of your co-op experience is useful in randoms. You need a lot of games to learn randoms, and as others mentioned tier 8 is not the best tier to start. I'd suggested to play around tier 6. I understand that you cannot use your favorite T8 premiums there, but it's a fault of WG pushing new players to get a T8+ that they cannot enjoy without significant experience. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,223 battles Report post #11 Posted December 9, 2020 Sometimes a break is a good idea, my enthusiasm for this game is currently at a low point ( guess it’s growing boring and not in a particularly fun place at least from my perspective) and as you can see from my battle count I’m way too loyal to this game for my own good. I hope at least you have had some fun playing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #12 Posted December 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said: What I’m saying is: why not giving it a try that has a chance to succeed? Why not spend some time in lower tiers to try out different things? You're really gonna tell him to go into the cesspit that is low tier play currently infested by seal clubbing CVs against which there is even less counterplay than on high tiers? Or play victim tiers that are constantly being put up against the shiny and expensive T8 - T9 premiums against which they have absolutely no chance? Besides, I too would like to play Cherry Blossom or Dynamo once in a while. You know. If I still could. 18 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,474 battles Report post #13 Posted December 9, 2020 4 minuti fa, El2aZeR ha scritto: You're really gonna tell him to go into the cesspit that is low tier play currently infested by seal clubbing CVs against which there is even less counterplay than on high tiers? Or play victim tiers that are constantly being put up against the shiny and expensive T8 - T9 premiums against which they have absolutely no chance? Besides, I too would like to play Cherry Blossom or Dynamo once in a while. You know. If I still could. why did they remove the scenarios? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #14 Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, arquata2019 said: why did they remove the scenarios? CV rework, AI couldnt control planes, and those OPs were balanced around planes. At this point tho i believe, its so people wont grind for RB points. Would be quite easy with OPs from T6-8 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HU-SD] Prospect_b Players 2,655 posts 14,214 battles Report post #15 Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, arquata2019 said: why did they remove the scenarios? cause it provided a way to circumvent the cesspool el2a referred to. Now the only way to do that is shiny rubles. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,474 battles Report post #16 Posted December 9, 2020 Proprio ora, Saiyko ha scritto: cause it provided a way to circumvent the cesspool el2a referred to. Now the only way to do that is shiny rubles. cesspool? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,960 battles Report post #17 Posted December 9, 2020 41 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said: Well, Id say this gives a good insight on how new players and players, who´d like to play the game outside of sh!tty randoms feel like. Not that WG will care. Indeed, so many people so casually dismiss the player making statements like the OP has, but fail to see the message hidden underneath. If WG were wise they'd read into 'leavers' threads and in doing so might find a reason why in the grand scheme of things their active playerbase is so low and why their retention scheme is bad. Of course, people will come and go, but WG would be fools to offhandedly dismiss every departure so casually. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HU-SD] Prospect_b Players 2,655 posts 14,214 battles Report post #18 Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, arquata2019 said: cesspool? cess•pool sĕs′poo͞l″ ► n. A covered hole or pit for receiving drainage or sewage, as from a house. n. A filthy, disgusting, or morally corrupt place. n. A sunk chamber, cistern, or well in a drain or privy, to receive the sediment or filth. I could say how this is a perfect word not only to describe the state of the game but other things too, especially the second meaning, but never mind. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,474 battles Report post #19 Posted December 9, 2020 Proprio ora, Saiyko ha scritto: cess•pool sĕs′poo͞l″ ► n. A covered hole or pit for receiving drainage or sewage, as from a house. n. A filthy, disgusting, or morally corrupt place. n. A sunk chamber, cistern, or well in a drain or privy, to receive the sediment or filth. I could say how this is a perfect word not only to describe the state of the game but other things too, but never mind. oh ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #20 Posted December 9, 2020 48 minutes ago, SDRS_Meister said: Going into Randoms was probably one of the worst mistakes I've done in my life. You should consider yourself lucky if that's the worst you did in your lifetime :D Coop isn't much of a game. It's pretty bad for a game actually. Coop is a glorified shooting range mostly. If random hits you this hard, pvp might not be for you. Check out other singleplayer games, they might be a better fit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] BlackYeti Players 995 posts 14,827 battles Report post #21 Posted December 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: CV rework, AI couldnt control planes, and those OPs were balanced around planes. At this point tho i believe, its so people wont grind for RB points. Would be quite easy with OPs from T6-8 I feel that was just the excuse, I don't see why they couldnt keep the old mechanics just for ops. Dynamo, Cherry blossom don't allow player CVs, so does Narai because of odd tier 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] Miragetank90 Players 2,626 posts 18,702 battles Report post #22 Posted December 9, 2020 48 minutes ago, SDRS_Meister said: and for you guys here on the forum for filling some of my heart with joy for the past year that I've spent on this game. Are we using the same forum? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,474 battles Report post #23 Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) 14 minuti fa, Miragetank90 ha scritto: Are we using the same forum? i know it's humoristic, but maybe he is from another server, like asia, na, ru, sea, gulag... edit: do people like having (if i can let them laugh) a laugh? that am i humoristic? (just asking) Edited December 9, 2020 by arquata2019 question about humor 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #24 Posted December 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, BlackYeti said: I feel that was just the excuse, I don't see why they couldnt keep the old mechanics just for ops. Dynamo, Cherry blossom don't allow player CVs, so does Narai because of odd tier AA for ships changed quite a bit tho. Cant buff AA range any longer, like you could before with AFT, which was good for Dynamo. And AA being weaker aswell, would like to know the difference for Sims f.e. And i believe WG planned oddtier CVs, but apparently its such a shitshow, they abandoned that idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDDQD] RAYvenMP Players 816 posts 17,290 battles Report post #25 Posted December 9, 2020 54 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said: Prolly because some people just dont like PvP? Which is absolutly valid in my book. But this game forces you to play Randoms (or throw constantly money at WG), which is a bad thing - for everyone involved. Those players dont like to be there but they "have to" and more serious players complain about those PvE-focused players, since they often/sometimes dont have what it takes to be useful in randoms. Im trying to word it carefully to not hurt anyones feelings but thats it in a nutshell. If WG just kept the Operations around and extended then, but nooo, cant have that, you could grind a shipline all the way in Operations, even push the research bureau through that. well, you can't really blame the game for lacking of PVE content when it was built as PVP game (FPS games, MOBAs etc). WG probably has good reasons to not invest more into PVE, some might be obvious like lack of interest of players vs costs of development, abusable/exploitable PVE systems (risk vs reward) etc. I would love to see some historical campaigns or mission chains, but i would say we are in large minority. In a progression based F2P, most of the ppl care just about fastest and easiest way to get the stuff done, and that won't and can't be in PVE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites